Career Thread

As a CS grad, your concerns are pretty much spot on. It's actually pretty tough to find a job. Businesses are clueless when it comes to hiring - a developer who has been coding for a few years can easily pick up a new language and start running with it, but it doesn't matter.
I'm learning creative skills on the side to make sure I don't get fucked when AI comes.

Are you American?
Look for jobs with military contracting companies. We have bases in Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Korea, Japan, Italy, Spain, Greece, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, UK, Greenland, all over the middle east obviously, and on a bunch of remote but interesting islands.

Here is the thing. Developers won't necessarily be in trouble when AI rolls out. But where ever AI has been rolled out jobs in that field have shrunk considerably. Decades from now if America or whatever country embraces an AI economy. There will be work for electrical engineer and programmers. But there will be a lot less jobs in those fields, and I imagine they will only be open to those with PhDs from prestigious schools. But that's not my concern. My concern is now, and the immediate future.

Same question as And if you are, you can head for a career with the Department of Defense, NSA, NGA, DISA, etc. They all have US citizenship requirements.

>air traffic control
>165k
>yes
>fucking 18 year old asian girls

> but accounting will be automated within a decade or two

what are you on about? Accounting will get automated when lawyers and software engineers get automated

Also they won't get replaced in 20 years. The only jobs that are actually in danger due to automation are truck drivers

> Translate financial papers for major corp
> 70k
> Too easy
> Whatever I want since I got into the Resistance presale

>NGO IT Manager
>$75K
>No, but tons of variety and flexibility, so fuck it
>CTO? Ligaf. Perhaps become FI/RE and/or NEET

> physical therapist
> 30 k euro
> love my job, insurance are ruining it tho.
>Either this but part-time or maybe some form of health/life coaching

Yes it will. White collar work is ripe for automation. You are taking information and make decision based on that. So easy to automate.

Hahahaha It's much more easier to automate accounting than it is truck driving. You have no clue what goes behind automating truck driving.

There will always be a human element. And I do agree - functions like payroll, which is already outsourced to india, will become automated. However, CPAs will always deal with PEOPLE. Whether it is intra-generational wealth transfer, or auditing financial statements to reduce the cost of capital, high level accounting will not fade out to robots within the next several decades.

> backend dev
> 30k euro
> no
> most office jobs are a meme desu and I fucking hate wagecucking for a boss. Wish I went for a degree as a physiotherapist or maybe even a tradie job so I can work on my own. But I’m already 26 so going back to school would be financial suicide. My best hope is making it with crypto (looking good rn) and starting a biz.

BTW
24 y.o., $54K USD, Big 4 Auditor. My life is busy but I'm so adderall'd out that I excel in my career

Bro if your job can be broken down a series of conditional statement (if x is true, or while x is true) then it can be automated.

> auditing financial statements to reduce the cost of capital,
In fact, tasks that involve judgements and decision making are the best for automation because a computer can process a lot more information than a human.

Look I like accounting too. I would like to be one. But most of you accountants know jack shit about computers and computing. KPMG is working on automating accounting work. So....

>Software Engineer
>$120,000/yr
>No, only work to survive.
>Male pornstar, or earn enough to live a weeb life in Japan and fuck Japanese girls everyday.

what country/city?
what degree and what language do you work with?

>Active Duty Military
>30k
>Meh
>CFO of a startup that goes public

Every single big 4 is working on automation and data analytics. Who do you think is going to automate low-level accounting?? ACCOUNTANTS. fk'in retard

> 19
> dropped out of school 3 years ago
> learned front-end programming by myself
> now programmer
> 2.3k € per month
> ez money without any graduation or certifications

y'all should learn programming, 10 years from now it won't be THAT easy anymore to get a job in this field

What the fuck are you saying dickhead. Of course accountants will aid in the PROCESS of automating you boomer fucktard. But the implementation will be done by software engineers. Once the process is automated, the work will be carried out by COMPUTERS. Dumb, boomer fuck.

What country? The reason you have it easy is because there is a lot of demand where you live, and supply is relatively low. If supply were to increase than employers could demand you have a degree just because they can.

germany and austria

but normiefags (especially in rural regions) don't realize you fuckin HAVE TO educate yourself at least a little bit in IT today, otherwise you will get rekt in 20 years

it's just pathetic how few schools here are actually offering software engineering education...

My name is Sneed, (formerly Chuck), and I sell feed and seed
290k per year

>Middle management
>65k
>no
>Higher management
>Will you like this?
>No

But I'm going to be miserable in any case, so I'd rather be rich and miserable than poor and miserable.

>What do you do
Hotel receptionist / administration, I book the reservations, check people in and out. Take care of their special needs. Give them info. Some accounting and staff management.
>How much do you make
about 11 € / hour
>Do you like it
There are lot of things happening, sometimes crazy things from guests or employees. Mostly its just boring for me. Talking to normies all day long is the biggest insult. My boss doesnt give 0 fucks for anything as long as money is coming in and we dont have a lawsuit on our ass. I could be stealing inventory / money, nobody would care.
>What do you want to be doing in the future
Sadly I dont know. I have friends with real occupations and they suffer from either drug abuse or depression. I try to stay healthy as much as possible. Almost every day I am angry. I could snap at any moment.

No, you fucking retard. Implementation will be carried by data-savvy accountants, such as myself. I am IN the industry. Kys

>What do you do
GP
>How much do you make
$160k but fucked by tax
>Do you like it
It's ok
>What do you want to be doing in the future
Continue as a doctor with financial freedom to not chase the money but go into areas I truly enjoy, only working properly 3 days a week

Come on LINK you piece of shit, give me my freedom.

how are you going to be able to the code the software? dumb business grad, and even upon doing that you are proving my point that jobs will disappear from the accounting field, and the progression towards more automation will take place

Anybody can code you dumbfuck

> wolfgang
> 53
> lives in 2k people viillage
> farmer
> can code according to this user

I should have clarified. There will be a lot of machine learning and AI involved. Which will require specialist knowledge in that area. At most the fucktard could help in consulting with the machine learning/AI specialist.

And yes coding is straightforward but if it is software that is going to be used for millions of dollars worth of work then it will be handled by expert software engineer since these companies can afford to throw that money around.

>I run a mobile app company
>$340k /year
>Fuck yeah
>Travel more, outsource more

>What do you do
I manage an Amazon Fulfillment Center. Upper management.
>How much do you make
$115k + stock options before tax.
>Do you like it
It's alright. Fucking tiring mentally.
>What do you want to be doing in the future
I always dreamed of becoming a shemale escort but in reality I'm just a 20 something that's going on 30 and I'm too pussy to actually do things like work out to get the body I want or taking hormones.
Sometimes I wish I was never introduced to fetishes or porn so I wouldn't be sad about the technology to become an actual good looking shemale with a fat dick not existing.
Now I'm just ranting.

Stop being salty you dropout. In a couple of months that farmer can be a pajeet tier codemonkey.
True, but accounting won’t be automated. Bookkeeping will, and even that will take some time to completely disappear.

Because I write in R code for big data projects and Python for automation projects

You are outside of the field and fucking clueless. Even the modern CPA exam requires knowledge on programming. Fucking retard

Wishful thinking. You haven't addressed why it can't be automated. And look it won't be that just accounting will be automated but a whole host of field in medicine, finance, IT and elsewhere.

He probably doesn't even know what R is, give him a break.

third world shithole, software engineer I know java/spring, react, docker+kubernetes, I know how to deploy to aws and gc, I'm not bad when it comes to linux, script in bash and python, yet i make 12K$ a year working on a shitty education ERP in a uni, I do it because small uni town and lots of pussy here.

R is not a language you write full-fledged software packages in. Python is terrible again for full-fledged software. Very slow and bloated. Only good for scripts, small programs and prototyping.

You say it won't be automated. Again, I am looking to move into accounting. Please explain why computers can't do the work of accountants? And if you say human interaction from what I understand this involves speaking and discussing the project/deal whatever with the client. Sure, this won't be automated. But it will greatly reduce the number of people needed to do the accounting of a mid-sized firm.

Shut the fuck you tranny freak. Look it's awesome that you are impressed by vlookup in excel but your jobs are going to get the axe. come to terms with it.

If I was so wrong you guys could outline why a computer/AI couldn't do the job of an accountant

I don't get why a computer/AI couldn't do the job of any CS related job honestly. Why even study computer science, am I right!

You won’t even need accounting when blockchain has become mainstream.

I'm currently working with KPMG on the automation of Finance teams. You'll still need some human intervention but much less. The spreadsheet monkey element of accounting won't be needed soon.

R is a language I can take hundreds of thousands of observations and visualize. That is what it is good for - data analytics.

If you want to move into accounting, then go public. Things like transaction structuring will never be automated. BOOKEEPERS will be automated, yes. This has been coming for quite some time. However, CPAs will never be automated.

Accounting is dynamic. Every year there is new tax legislation, new accounting standards, different market conditions. Accountants are able to adapt and react and program the future.

fk'in retards

I'm got a chemical engineer who took a job as a data analyst because job search is rough and oNE of my first tasks was unironically to learn to code in DAX and automate the function of one of the boomer accountants who was retiring so they wouldn't need to be replaced...

I've only been here a year and ive automated the aggregate contribution margin calcs for all our product lines, yoy sales, sale weight by region, operating vs capital expenditures.... desu I'm probably going to end up coding myself out of a job by the end of it...

But a lot of these things you mention will be automated, they'll require changes re. new legislation but that'll be done by techies, not accountants. Lots of regulatory pieces are now focusing on api /direct linkages into data sources.

low iq tranny post. go back to discord.

you just proved to all the cs chads in this thread that all you accountants have is wishful thinking when it comes to ai

Ok well then clarify. How much trained accountants do you need know for whatever task, and how many will you need after you automate the process.

Exactly. With the legislation this will involve changing the value of a few variables, and maybe the logic of a few statement. All in all, it won't require the complete overhaul of the system, just minor modification.

gov.uk/government/publications/making-tax-digital/overview-of-making-tax-digital

Part of this legislation is to eliminate human touchpoints...ie Accountants and spreadsheets. It'll still need some intervention but WAY less.

you are using vague boomer salesman language like dynamic.

what tasks do you do in accounting that couldnt be handled by a software.

All I am saying is that I see overall demand for accountants dropping radically. I've looked at the syllabus for a lot of accounting degrees and there is so many free electives and a handful of core accounting subjects (like 4 or 5).

I'd say we're looking at ten becomes one.

No, your last statement. We'd do a complete system overhaul initially, then it'd require parameter changes by a tech...or it'd be done at the regulator end via direct links.

That's what it will come down to for all book keeping in the end.

The main function of accountants in a very short order of time will be mindlessly checking the [ ] AUDITED BY HUMAN box at the bottom of a stack of auto-generated reports.

The current system of accounting will be overhauled, yes. But when I said system I am referring to the automation system that will be put in place to replace it. That won't require a total overhaul each time new legislation is in place. In fact I imagine the implementation will factor this in.

Anyways, would you say going into accounting is a bad idea? How fucked is finance?

>daytrader since I graduated high school
>nothing in fiat, I live on goverment assistance
>yes
>move to germany so I can get the juicy 0% tax on bitcoin, retire and live on dividends

No it won't, we have robots to that :-/

Yes, that's right just new tables, rates, fields etc.

I'd say it's fucked unless you're a specialist in something. Your bog standard management accountants are pretty screwed. That's because a lot of "accountants" aren't really that, they just piss about transforming data in Excel that relates to Finance.

Holy fuck. I must be the biggest loser on this board.
Hydraulic Equipment Sales and Service.
19/hr
I don’t like it but it pays the bills
I really just want to be a retail investor. It’s the only thing in life I enjoy.

What is your background? Also what if you were to get a CPA or something. I am not to clear what the CPA exactly entails.

>light mortar man
>5.10€ a day
>yeah, it's good shit
>mechanical engineer stuff

Do you find a lot of accountants and finance people you meet are like the accounts ITT? That is in complete denial or can't wrap their head around how AI could possible do something like accounting?

I'm project / process improvement /strategy, not a Finance background, just work within the industry. I deliver change...and automation and technology is our main focus. I'd just focus on something you enjoy. We're moving towards the gig economy. Days of working somewhere for years are over.

Cory let me fish plz

Absolutely, they are the specialists, nobody else could possibly automate it, needs the human touch. Don't get me wrong, if you're a specialist then there's a place but if you're a standard off the shelf accountant, the clock is ticking.

Thx fren, please consider my application

Thx ferns I’m anticipating your positive response

Can you use PowerPoint and nod your head fren?

>Student
>0€
>No
>Forest guard, 15k€ as a civil servant

-Sales (inbound)
-70kish. depending commission (50k base)
-Not sure yet, only just started (3weeks but doing well)
-Im waiting for a scam opp. in 5 years ill either be rich or in jail
-

>assistant electrical dept. manager at home improvement store
>25K last year
>Yes but the pay makes me wanna kms
>rich neet

Forgot picture.
Also why are american salaries so high.

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I was on a Gartner webinar the other day, quote was "in 2030, 80% of the roles people will carry out don't even exist today". I'd say just do something you enjoy, fuck chasing the money, it doesn't make you happy and swim with the tide, see where it takes you. I'm an older fuck though but it genuinely is true.

Because they work loads of hours and don't get any holidays.

I can 100% in reading which is nice

Real human wagies, the americans.
You can live here with 10k euros a year.

£16k a year before tax

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I generally avoid US employers. Unless it's silicon valley, they tend to be total cunts with horrible cultures.

>be american
>get paid in bullets

Chef
around 65+ a year with my side hustles
Love my profession - dislike my current workplace
Thinking about staying a season in Antarctica, that way I can pay off my mortgage when I get home in late 2020.

This is a big question, so would you say finish my CS degree or change to accounting (and go down the specialist path (although I imagine there will be more than enough specialists in the coming decades)) or electrical/mechnical engineering (BSc --> MSc), or say something more general like math?

Webdeb
$24k after taxes (Russia)
Kinda
Haven't decided yet, either drugs or crypto

I don't know, just do what you'll enjoy most, chase enjoyment, you need to be mentally rewarded, not just financially. Like I said, we don't know the roles of the future but data / data science / AI will be a big part of it. Just keep automation in mind when choosing. GL fren.

>software dev
>46k€/y
>no, used to like writing software but actually working in the field sucked the joy out of it
>either fulltime trading or as secondary option remote dev jobs to have the freedom to travel

I know that Im underpaid but my job is basically stressfree since it's in a corporate boomer normie environment and I only work 2-3 hours while the rest im just dicking around maybe learning languages or other stuff.

>sales
>30k basic + roughly 20k commision
>Yes, better than the manual labour I did first 5 years after highschool (although it paid more I hated it)
>not living paycheck to paycheck

>Warehouse slave
>11 an hour USD
>no
>go to law school

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>career postal clerk at united states postal service
>55k before taxes base salary spread across 40 hour weeks in biweekly paychecks, every health insurance option under the sun, i get 25% off my phone bill and multiple other benefits. I even found out verizon employees only get a 10% discount while I get a 25% there. also get thrift savings plan that matches up to 5%.
>Do you like it
kill me pete is my first thought, my second is how incredibly poor management is here. I reached the maximum capacity I can get in my craft, got one of the best possible positions at my level and it's on day shift. the next 2 people ahead of me in seniority have 25 and 30 years, and iirc we're well over 68% of our entire managerial labor pool being at retirement age. I wasn't really born into this shit, which is weird because almost everyone else there already is, I just worked hard and feel like I could be doing more with way less. Also concerned with incoming massive restructuring of the whole facility. Also the other day someone tried to mail sulfuric acid and it spilt everywhere, so there's shit I have to deal with like that. or 3rd worlders sending boxes with fish in them. or people who mail fucking kitchen knives in empty boxes. nothing else just a fucking BOX full of KNIVES. totally won't shoot out of the fucking thing once the package comes down the 18 foot pachinko machine slide we use to sort this shit. fuck everything and STOP MAILING FUCKING KNIVES AND ACID GOD WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU RETARDS
>What do you want to be doing in the future
decompose
if not that, i'm gonna buy a food truck and apply all those years of culinary schooling and training to good use. probly do biscuits n' gravy as my specialty.

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Business Analyst
€120k
Meh
Retired due to chainlink in 3 years or if not that, being a BA. in blockchain and doubling my salary in the same period.

30k a year. i am just a slave for a large coorporate hotel chain. :(