Place to retire

>be me
>29 y.o.
>Swedish
>save 10% of paycheck for retirement
>plan to retire in cheaper warmer country
>realize world is developing and there won't be more places like that in 35-40 years.

is our generation really fucked when it comes to retirement? what's your plan, anons?

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I'm either getting rich off meme coins by age 35 or killing myself.

Is this what Asian women actually look like?

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I retired early

I am southeast asia NEET now

you'll be happy to have them when you're 70

u r full of shit

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There are tons of financially independent western pseudo neet weirdos all over SEA. They made money somehow and fucked off to a place with easy women who would fuck them because they exist.

Being a white man in SEA is like being a white woman in America. Who wouldn't move there desu?

Spent two years in SEA. Dated a few girls. Latin America is better for young guys, especially if you are attractive. Only advantage of SEA is if you want daily threesomes with 6s full of personal problems and mental illness.

I've only met 65+ white dudes, and I backpacked half of the fucking Asia.

that sounds great

Latin America could be great as well. It won't stay that poor for 40 more years. That's the fucking point.

Venezuela is pretty fucked for the next 8.

I have lived in Thailand, Cambodia, and Philippines. It is impossible not to trip over dozens of young expats wherever you go. Why lie?

They are not retirees; they're backpackers who work for few months to earn money, so they can keep traveling. I've been one myself and know what I'm talking about.

>Latin America could be great as well. It won't stay that poor for 40 more years. That's the fucking point.
Sure it will, it's full of Latin Americans. For analogous reasons Africa will always be poor. The only way to change that would be literal unlimited welfare per capita comparable to the per capita GDP of a western economy and enforcing fair distribution. Obviously this will never happen..

>It won't stay that poor for 40 more years.
Cuba: hold my beer.

There are nations where "progress" is not part of the culture.

I don't understand how people with money want to retire in shithole countries with cheap but crappy quality of life.
How can I retire in Cambodia, Thailand or Philippines? They have beautiful places, but quality of life sucks, no food controls, poverty in every corner, enjoy you permanent dhiarrea.

coz alternative is a mediocre life in cold Sweden, where you seat home most of the time and get no pussy coz Romanian prostitutes are like $250 an hour.

Vladivostok is supposed to be the patricians choice.

There are thousands of happy western retirees in Thailand and Philippines. Cambodia is sort of an end of the line last resort sort of place and not recommended except for those who want to live on the edge.

Have you ever been to Chang Mai? Cebu? Once you get away from the hyperurban scum and tourists it's easy to have a nice life. I lived overseas in SEA for three years and got food poisoning once, and that was from a fast food resto.

Not everywhere is like the degenerate sexpat hotspots.

>Have you ever been to Chang Mai? Cebu?
Yes, both. Pai is actually great.

The problem is that lots of western money flooding those places. They won't be that authentic and cheap in 40 years.

Alternative is Greece, Malta, south of Spain or south of Italy.
If you are retired, and you don't have to deal with wage cuckin, bureaucracy, or impossibility to have a business, you will have good weather, high level of hygiene, great food and cheap houses or renting. Not cheap as shithole countries but a good balance and superior quality of life.

>Alternative is Greece, Malta, south of Spain or south of Italy.
High cost of life. Those places are flooded with Brits and Scandinavians, so housing prices are high af.

>There are thousands of happy western retirees in Thailand and Philippines.
And I will not be one of them.
I was in Philippines for one month, and it was a nightmare. Unless you strictly follow the touristic path, 99% of the population prefer to spend money on a smartphone than building a fucking toilette in their house or having a house with walls and windows.

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>flooded with Brits and Scandinavians
Malta only

You should buy rope now while it's cheap

sounds like you just don't know how to travel or set up a base m8

quality of food? you mean street food or what? you should be cooking. Internet is actually better than (most) of america in some of these shithole countries. Colombia being an example. Quality of life is only worse if you stay in one of the overpopulated capitals of these poor countries, or to the other extreme, somewhere too remote. You buy a cheap moped for 600$ if you are staying for several months and sell it when you leave, don't have to deal with the idiot taxis. You made friends and ask around for high quality cheap apartments, not using apps or online searches. If you don't want to deal with laundry/cleaning/shopping you can pay someone like 20$ to do all of that once a week. There's websites that deliver any product you can't find in stores within a few days.

What is quality of life to you? Logistics is the biggest hurdle in most of these places and that's taken care of with a motorbike. The other concern is air pollution if you are sensitive to it, which I am, so I avoid ph and vietnam.

I promise you, same shit in Southern Spain and Portugal. Maybe not that much in Italy though.

okay, but who's gonna suck my dick for $20 in 2060, your mom? also, making such a decision 40 years in advance is kinda risky...

They're waiting for you

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i fucking hope so.

I was staying to my wife's family, so they tried to spoil me and make me comfortable (and, despite all their efforts, I wasn't).
Quality of life for me is:
-cleanness, I don't wan't to see trash on the sidewalk/street, and I want to see a proper and clean bathroom wherever I go, and many places just have a "small bowl" instead of a toilette that you have to flush manually with a scoop. Lack of windows means also that any kind of small and medium sized animals will enter flawlessly inside your house and this is very common.
-not seeing poor and desperate people begging for money in every corner
-not having your neighbours, friends or friends of friends knocking at your door to ask you to borrow money every 2 days (because this will happen to every white skinned there, no exceptions)
-having a basic functioning healthcare. If you go to a private hospital (you cannot just go to a public one and expect to go out alive from there, they literally give you candies for heart problems and they expect you to die because that's all social securities are paying for) or you need let's say an heart operation, it's fucking expensive, way more than Europe.
-having food controls: food can be very nasty, but I agree that if you cook for yourself and you just go for fresh fish, you are pretty much ok

Gimme the one with the black eye

Okay I see the problem now. You're a pussy and a whiner and everyone around you knows it so they try to exploit you. I am not surprised you had the type of experience you did, if you are a weak person with a weak personality. In retrospect these complaints are common for soft men who believe they deserve to be coddled.

Your problem was that you did not try to make your environment better, but stupidly assumed that you were stuck with what you were give. A common mistake by less worldly expats.

I can give you the one in baseball hat instead.

Gotcha. Cleanliness in asia isn't great I'll give you that, but it's always flooding during rainy season. Not much they can do about it even if they were competent. Lots of latin countries are very clean though. I don't deal with beggars in any country, because I stay away from the tourist areas, and the neighbors/locals will only bother you if you let them. Don't walk around with a rolex or a 100$ outfit, if they ask for favors tell them you are broke, honestly it's no different than the west. You never had friends bum off you in the west, or beggars/hustlers in the city? I find that hard to believe.

Healthcare is much cheaper for a high quality private hospital overseas, but that's an american perspective because we don't have free care like you. If you need something crazy like a heart operation, you fly to thailand (if it's SEA). They have world class private healthcare for cheap. Or just fly back to europe and use your free shit? I dunno man, you're reaching here.

btw, over 15 countries and 5 years of traveling and eating street food the only place I ever got sick was india. India was so fucking bad I ate a 500$ ticket to leave 3 days after I got there.

This is also true. You're kinda a bitch. We all know that one expat that every time you talk to them they are bitching about something. Like having a meltdown when a hot shower isn't available.

>Swedes can only save 10% of their paycheck and need to work 35 years to retire
Is living in Europe really this bad?

Of course, no. I can save more as I spend only

The one to the far right doesn't look too bad

they look even worse

Yeah that’s a man

Kek

>Be the president
>Start stealing funds from social security.

checked and kek'd
don't tell me you believed Jow Forums shitposts

It’s not my problem if you make 15 kids and you send them abroad and you let them being exploited in Saudi and Kuwait just to pay your bills because you are fucking useless and prefer to spend money on a smart tv and a new smartphone while you don’t even have a proper toilette.
I also cannot do anything about tons of trash you throw on the street and the sea.

> There wont be cheap warmer places in 35 years.

user in 35 years the whole world will be literally warmer.

My plan is to be one step ahead. Buy property in stupidly cold, ultra cheap place. In 20 years it will be habitable while the "warm" places will be hell and people will move away from them. Sell for mad gains.

There filipinas

Plan is simple
>spend 20s making money as developer
>get absolutely shredded
>lie in wait, working and stacking

>When the time comes, return home to South Africa and join the fight

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Dumb plan dude
If you are going to fight then get experience in pmc or state infantry.
If you are going to code then stay away and engage in cyber warfare. Just imagine how vulnerable pavement ape managed systems will be without white IT there to cover their asses.
If you really want to be a programmer-at-arms then you gotta learn both. Getting ripped and physically strong isnt enough. You need exposure to the shit to become used to it.

Argentina stopped developing like a 100 years ago and with the present president we went 4 years back
Come live here

>Just imagine how vulnerable pavement ape managed systems will be without white IT there to cover their asses.
Fair point. I like this plan. Thank you user. Eendrag maak mag.

Finally some good advise. That's a good point, user.

Maybe summer house in Eastern Europe won't be that bad of an option after all.

No, don't get back to that shithole. It's lost for us. Whites should just leave and let niggas fuck everything up completely.

Make white babies in the West instead.

Artic tundra is melting, north west Canada will become very habitable. The current populace I.e.vancouver, kelowna will be ravaged by wildfires.

Already hard at work on that one. Just too young to afford kids.

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I live the life in south America ama

on a budget

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Imagine the smell

You guys mostly talk about SEA but what about Mexico. Let’s say I save 600,000k for retirement (I know it’s not a lot but we can’t all be 100k/yr Wendy’s chefs) and move there how fucked or set am I? I’ve put some thought into it and it’s a plus that I am Mexican and know Spanish.

If you move to mexico with a shit load of money be prepared to be dragged out of your bed at 3am and taken into the desert to be skinned.

Try kuala lumpur

I was looking at San Miguel de Allende. It looks like a sheltered off part of Mexico.

I spent a few days in Maylasia. Seemed a decent place due the past as a UK expat colony. Didn't feel poor in the cities and the prices were still cheap. Here's the thing if you do move to SE asia you need to marry and invest in the local property market so if the country does become rich you become rich with it.

That's because you're a "backpacker". Young white SEA NEET lords avoid you scum like the plague.

Based

I hope you have 5 kids and raise them well user. Best of luck

Gross.

>tons of financially independent
No there aren't

Ill stay home and play vidya till i get a stroke and die

Giambi?

yeah kek, random as fuck to see that guy. he used to wear a purple thong when he was on hitless streak.

Gay.

Hes right, they look like shit

and after two beers?

oh boy, thats a huge bag of ugly asians.
yuck

Then your drunk ass better wear a condom

add it to the list of boomer crimes come day of the pillow

they are 3-4/10 even for the thailand standards, enough for the 50+ years old expats/sex tourists with a double dose of viagra or a stinky group of pajeets

Nasty & sad :(

Sounds like a based plan to me desu, fucking A+ man

Kek you clearly fucking don't retard, theres a bunch of NEET fags living in sea but they don't stay at hostels and don't drink at bars that aren't filled with 99% prostitutes.

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>y don't stay at hostels and don't drink at bars that aren't filled with 99% prostitutes.
Dafuq is going on there?

Wtf happened man ? He got shocked by the fridge ? Smart dude kicking him to be honest

put on your reading glasses faggot

Whites were only booted so Chinks can colonize, Chinks even have the legal nigger status in SA.
Pack it up to namibia fren,

wtf gigachad what the hell are you doing here

Your mom is a faggot

dont worry OP. DR will always be a shithole

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lmao someone asked me the same question on pol

I'll give you the same answer: just because I'm halfway good looking doesn't mean I'm suddenly cured of autism. I HAVE to come here at least once a day.

This is the plan.

I was like a kid in a candy shop in these bars.

Kek, no one goes to DR for going to the beach. 99% of people who go there do it for cheap underage prostitutes. Can't get those in the first world anymore unless you are literally a billionaire.

Kek what in the fuck happened here. I thought he got shot then the old cunt kicks him back to life.

yep, been living in DR for 4 months (not-reddpilled that time) and was afraid of AIDS, but cant confirm that, bitches r gross and not-nice to spend time on.. the air is weird, at least around Cabarete.
If u dont go windsurfing/kitesurfing u can get cheap, young hookers.. and Haiti.. wow.. that was shocking.

Shocking because of how awful it is?

ive been around border only, didnt go much into the country, but it was 4th word shithole, it was like 4 years ago, after this hurricane dramma? ive seen a small girl, 12-14 yo? walking around the area with mattress and pulling your boards shorts to go with her behind the wall/house.. gross. heard stories about the UN soldiers..

That's fucking grim.

DR wasnt much better desu, once ive gone to more rural areas, like bario blanco at caberete, or cottages under palmas in the woods it was really sad place.
there was a kid in my neighborhood, whos mother was hooker and crack addict, every time she was fucking a guy he was came to our place, and slept on couch in the backyard, sometimes i gave him food, and his neighbors did rob him...
tons of old nazi-fagz and fatmuricans banging young hookers, making photos with them (always wonder if they show them up on Christmas party xD), but also seen few really, really fat womans with young, handsome black guys, it was so fuckin cringe :DDD

No dont worry, the west wont last 40 years so that money will stop.

oh damn you're right.