How do I not end up killing myself with 30?

>be me, 25
>study meme degree
>don't really like it, but also don't know what to do otherwise
>virgin (not kissless though)
>fucking ugly, even though "friends" say I'm not, but I don't get any matches on Tinder, which proves that they lie
>friends are shit and hang around with me just that they have a bigger loser to look down on
>Luckily not autistic and somewhat social

What should I do? I'm 25 and I'm a fucking big Loser. Luckily I don't have debt though, which makes it a bit better.
But other than that I have nothing going for me. I don't like what I study. I don't like my surrounding in which I'm in. I can't even get pussy.
And all that while I'm in my prime and about to approach my 30s.
Things really look bad.

And it's not that I didn't put in any effort or so. I've read books about self development, done PickUp which led me to a few Kisses and three Dates, which were from hell.
But there is nothing I can show for it.
Meanwhile I see other people who have it all.
Youth, prime Pussy and go through university as if it were nothing.

I'm fucking down.
What should I do? I don't want end up killing myself with 30 but I also don't know what else I should try. Nothing seems to work out and I stop enjoying things.

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get boipussy then kys after you reach realisation you fucked a man and came inside his butt
ez

What was I expecting to get anything worthwhile here..

Forget about the pussy and focus on doing what you want. Even if you did get laid youd still be stuck with your self 2 hours later after all the chemicals wear off.

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On a less serious note, universities these days seem to be more glorified social clubs than places of learning. The curriculum is made purposefully obtuse so you’re forced to interact with your “peers” to get ahead.

who the fuck cares user. we all gonna die. even 10/10 prime pussy will bore you to death after having it.(can confirm) life is a literal scam so dont take it serious.

do this and then lift (heavy) weights and then read stoicism everyday and then literally stop caring about everything else

>done PickUp which led me to a few Kisses and three Dates, which were from hell.
pls elaborate

Workout, eat well and start hustling. Once you get the money and the body, the pussy will come.

yeah, user. you were dead forever and you're here now, you will cease to exist again very soon. "making it" is a literal scam, your emotions reflected off of society are exactly that, nothing other than shill threads entering your mind to corrupt what should be a passive, consistent state of flow. conquer your mind for it is the tool that perceives everything else. also, fucking look after your body, people don't realize this but our body's are like good doggos. even if you self-loathe your body doesn't deserve to be punished. despite its shortcomings and often neglect, it does its best to keep you alive and healthy which you have zero control over, though complete input. caring for your body is good for the soul and in return enables you to conquer your mind.

listen to based user here. You’ve got to realise that you’ve been trained, programmed or whatever to think in certain terms, and it’s fucking with you completely. You cant even understand somebody who explains, quite clearly, the way you’ve been trained, it just appears nonsensical or you misinterpret it. Look, i’ll lay it all out for you, firstly, you’re encouraged from really young to think in ideals, but the fact of the matter is, things simply cannot exist as they exist inside your mind, it’s impossible user, what is actually your permenant and unchanging concept of beauty, or success, or any of that shit ? Hint, you dont have one, but you’re encouraged to keep forming ideals concerning these things all day every day. That is going to fuck you up big, firstly because they are literally unattainable, secondly because you believe they’re unchanging and absolute. You’re trained, from an early age, to believe in and characterise things in terms of absolute good and bad, right and wrong, so on and so on, again, that’s just totally wrong, do you know why you’re trained to do this shit ? Why they market super hero movies to children in order to establish notions of evil vs good ? It’s to control you, it’s so your parents, your teachers, your boss, and then even you, can turn around and say “you’ve been bad, you dont deserve this thing, you’re not allowed to do that thing”. The worst part of it is that if you ever manage to find your way out of this shit user you are going to scared shitless, you are going to feel such unceasing anxiety, because you’ve been trained to remain seated, you’ve been trained to simply follow the rules given to you, you’ve been trained to do nothing, NOTHING, original or new, and if you do try and do these things you’ve been trained to feel anxiety, fear, etc etc, just like a little sheep would. Let me tell you something, this is not bad, or good, it’s for you to decide, like everything.

user, I'm 29 and have no answer to that question.

OP here

I don´t care for my body. I´m not fat, or skinny. Also I don´t have "a few pounds too much"
I´m extremly normal.
But I don´t care about what I put in my body. Even though I don´t smoke or drink a lot apart from a few beers here and there.

What should I elaborate?
I went out and approached girls. Everywhere I could. Club, street, bar, university.
I did make out with a few ugly ones in Clubs, where I got even cockblocked by their friends. They pulled the girl just away from me.
And the dates I had were horrible.
It seemed like the girl realised how ugly I actually am and also we were on a different level personality wise.
And non of those dates were from my country. They were both some extremly eastern european girls.
It is totally over for me

I totally understand you user. If you believe it or not.
I questioned a shitload of things. Basically everything, from the "3 meals a day" to "8 hours sleep once a night" including the bluepilled "life as it should be with a family and a job and a lot of debt"
I know that a lot of things out there aren´t good objectively and neither what I really want.

But it is so extremly fucking hard, when you´re NONSTOP surrounded by people who preach exactly this and measure their value on getting pussy and getting good grades. (which university is all about)

Then I see myself, doing worse than all my peers because that is all I´m comparing myself to. And on top they even joke about me.
Fuck, that shit eats me up from inside.
I literally never felt worse in my life.
Kind of unworthy to be loved and on top too dumb to "master" life.
I mean could it get any worse?
Sure I am healthy and not in debt and I´m extremly thankful for that.
I know there are people out there who have it way worse than I do.
But still: I feel extremly helpless, since success in university and girls is what I should be good at, at this point in life.
But I´m just not. And there is also nothing external, which makes up for any of that.

Low IQ and not looking good enough to pull girls:
=> You lost in life

cry me a river faggot

To make things worse user once you start having sex you will realize how overrated it is and then have an existential crisis because you thought it would fix everything in your life

I´m not expecting it to fix anything.
I know it is pretty superficial.
But when everybody can get something and you can´t, you end up feeling pretty worthless.

>be me
Stopped reading, kys.

>can it get any worse
yes it absolutely can, imagine if you also lost function of your right hand, for example
>Low IQ and not looking good enough to pull girls: => You lost in life
so you weren't gifted by birth, cry more. Imagine being an ugly woman, that's 10 times the social pain.

>Imagine being an ugly woman, that's 10 times the social pain.
Wise words user

> I totally understand you user. If you believe it or not.
I questioned a shitload of things. Basically everything, from the "3 meals a day" to "8 hours sleep once a night" including the bluepilled "life as it should be with a family and a job and a lot of debt" I know that a lot of things out there aren´t good objectively and neither what I really want.

Realised after i replied you must have broken through the programming slightly because you took the huge (percieved) risk of putting capital into imaginary cones.

>But it is so extremly fucking hard, when you´re NONSTOP surrounded by people who preach exactly this and measure their value on getting pussy and getting good grades. (which university is all about)
If you feel happier without them, ditch them, you’re different, accept it, embrace it.

>Then I see myself, doing worse than all my peers because that is all I´m comparing myself to. And on top they even joke about me.
Fuck, that shit eats me up from inside.
I literally never felt worse in my life.
Kind of unworthy to be loved and on top too dumb to "master" life.
I mean could it get any worse?
Sure I am healthy and not in debt and I´m extremly thankful for that.
I know there are people out there who have it way worse than I do.
But still: I feel extremly helpless, since success in university and girls is what I should be good at, at this point in life.
But I´m just not. And there is also nothing external, which makes up for any of that.
Dont compare self to other, It’s just an incomprehensibly illogical thing to do, we are all unique snowflakes, and cant be compared, for real. Dont use other peoples measurements for success, they’re almost always deliberately skewed such that you are always at the bottom, if you have to, make your own measurement of success, and fucking ALWAYS remember, that if anyone is treating you like you’re only worth as much as the utility you possess, instead of admitting your worth is inherent, ditch them.

> I totally understand you user. If you believe it or not. I questioned a shitload of things. Basically everything, from the "3 meals a day" to "8 hours sleep once a night" including the bluepilled "life as it should be with a family and a job and a lot of debt" I know that a lot of things out there aren´t good objectively and neither what I really want.

Realised after i replied you must have broken through the programming slightly because you took the huge (percieved) risk of putting capital into imaginary cones.

>But it is so extremly fucking hard, when you´re NONSTOP surrounded by people who preach exactly this and measure their value on getting pussy and getting good grades. (which university is all about)
If you feel happier without them, ditch them, you’re different, accept it, embrace it.

>Then I see myself, doing worse than all my peers because that is all I´m comparing myself to. And on top they even joke about me.Fuck, that shit eats me up from inside.I literally never felt worse in my life. Kind of unworthy to be loved and on top too dumb to "master" life.I mean could it get any worse?
Sure I am healthy and not in debt and I´m extremly thankful for that. I know there are people out there who have it way worse than I do. But still: I feel extremly helpless, since success in university and girls is what I should be good at, at this point in life. But I´m just not. And there is also nothing external, which makes up for any of that.

Don't compare self to other, It’s just an incomprehensibly illogical thing to do, we are all unique snowflakes, and cant be compared, for real. Dont use other peoples measurements for success, they’re almost always deliberately skewed such that you are always at the bottom, if you have to, make your own measurement of success, and fucking ALWAYS remember, that if anyone is treating you like you’re only worth as much as the utility you possess, instead of admitting your worth is inherent, ditch them.

This is the most horrible, demoralizing, depressing place on the internet. Fuck you all

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Damn dude that is gay. Sex is life changing. Makes me feel so goooood. Get a fatty to slam

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Lots of good advice has been posted. The fuck are you on about?

You lack any confidence. Your Tinder profile picture probably shows that. Love who you are, and be yourself. I don't care if your hobby is collecting porcelain dolls. Show the joy you get out of life to others, and you'll draw them in no matter how weird you are. Depression and anger are the things that push others away.

TLDR:. Be yourself no matter how weird you are, and share the real you with girls. Not some fake stupid ass pick up artist crap.

Oh and if you're still reading this stop using being ugly as an excuse. Plenty of ugly men get women. Clean yourself up, dress well, and redo your profile pic.

I'm 53 and if I knew life would be like it was, I'd have killed myself at your age. It doesn't get better for ANYBODY, not just you. I have kids now and didn't want to mess them up with my death. You realize your intellectual depth is a curse and you notice the only happy people are fucking stupid as hell, dont follow the rules and are slugs.

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Say more? I'm intruiged

>Oh and if you're still reading this
I do.

The thing is when I asked people in real life if I should use a specific pic they were like "yeah man. That looks good."

Seems like everyone is fucking with me, huh

>intruiged
Why are you so depressed?
Isn´t it fun for you to have kids, or is your wife such hell?
Anything we could learn from you oldfag?

No to be honest with you nobody cares if you get laid. Modern society is breeding sociopaths. Nobody cares about you :(

>Nobody cares about you :(
Yeah, I reconized that.
And I also feel that when I hang out with a lot of people that they fake a lot.
But good news: I wouldn´t mind to dump them in a blink of an eye neither

If you are on a cold streak just ask out fat waitresses at restaurants. They are used to people being mean to them. All you have to do is be nice and then you can rebuild your game and self-esteem over time

Seems like good advice

keked

I can´t imagine fucking fatties. Sorry, I really can´t.

Why get someone else’s opinion? That’s your downfall..fuck everyone else just do you

You’ve never had sex tho... a lot of low status white guys watch porn and think they deserve a super model. You’d be happier if you just bang someone on your level

thats sad and a terrible advice.

Opens up this March

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>just bang someone on your level

top kek
Go and continue fucking fatties then yourself

lol I just turned 20 and if I am still posting on Jow Forums in 10 years I will kill myself.

kek, i love how this guy just comes through all the threads, puts everything into perspective.

this, but unironically

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If you are an Anglo speaker move to China and teach kids then slam the kids mums at night

comments like these are why I still come to Jow Forums

If you're here on this site its safe to say you have some sort of intellectual curiosity and thirst for knowledge. As you get older you realize VERY few others actually have that ability...they go along to get along and are easily swayed by public opinion, TV, etc...and the people at the top have their agenda. For example, if you want to get into a good university, you literally should be the best of the best. Except if you're Jewish (don't be an antisemite user)...or gay(are you a Nazi?)...or black(dont be racist)...you get the picture. Then you get into the business world and you see people cutting corners, cheating, and so forth...you try to do things the 'right' way and you end up scorned, demoted and on the bottom. I have tons of personal stories of not just myself, but many others. After a lifetime of accumulation, I kinda just don't care anymore. Time to work.

>If you're here on this site its safe to say you have some sort of intellectual curiosity and thirst for knowledge.
Just lol if you believe that

>Then you get into the business world and you see people cutting corners, cheating, and so forth...you try to do things the 'right' way and you end up scorned, demoted and on the bottom
this was a hard pill for me to swallow at first, but after a few years I've honestly become one of them once I realized trying hard is only rewarded with more work

You're young...you'll see

Buddy I was shitposting while you were still shitting your pants. Biz is without doubt one of the dumbest communities on the Internet and if you're here for anything other than laughs idk what to tell you

I just hope OP takes my advice

You probably look to serious in your picture. Do something fun that attracts attention, but make sure it's something that's really you.

Also get a girl or a gay guy to help you if you can. None of your straight friends is spending any of their time judging your looks or your profile pic.

Just ask random women on the street if they'll help you with you take a picture for your dating profile. Maybe you'll get a date out of it ;)

That’s realistic advice that your pops would have given you in a better era. Putting yourself on a pedestal in a surefire way to be alone and waste your youth

No, not really

I bet you think you are a gigachad. When was the last time you banged someone chad?

This. The more attractive they are the more vapid and soulless these thots are

Didn´t expect to get a laugh out of this thread as well. Thanks user.

To the anons who have some good advice: Thanks!

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hmmm

if it wasn't for Jow Forums, I wouldn't have known about Ethereum and the (at the time) coming bubble at all. I did what Jow Forums told me, waited a bit, and made $20,000 by basically waiting around. It's not a lot, but considering how poorfag I was at the time it seemed like a million dollars to me. Jow Forums isn't dumb, they just like to fuck around a lot.

a lot of people saying "forget girls dude". Although this is good advice, you as a 25 year old virgin will not be able to ignore it and it will consume your thoughts. the feeling of inferiority compared to your peers. you will not be able to calm down these thoughts as it will be tied to your biological drive.

you're going to have to learn accept that the cycle takes place in your mind and let yourself sit with the pain.

see hot girl around/see friend successful/see hot girl on tinder that doesn't like me/any other thing that makes me jealous/--> feel down --> engage in activity to bandaid the wound of feeling useless

btw, if you look at porn, this is absolutely destroying your self confidence. i really really strongly urge you to read more about quitting.

anyways, you gotta have something to believe in. for some people it's god. others it's their family, or the business they are starting etc. without it, life is kind of meaningless. for a lot of us here, it's crypto. you might want to start thinking along those lines

with the girls thing, the temptation to feel useless as a man will always always be there. its very hard in this society to not see hot girls walking around or online and feeling frustrating that you/we are not getting them. i see 4 outcomes with that:

1. feel frustrated, hate yourself, and engage in mind destroying activities to cope with the pain (drugs, drinking, porn, food)
2. be one of those men who get laid regularly and don't see it as important (very hard, but the guys who are like "its not important bro" are in this category and don't realize it)
3. accept that you are behind, and actually take steps to improve (gym, youtube vids on women/men dating and learning where you are wrong..this is very hard because you have to accept you are wrong, which is hard for the ego)
4. know that that feeling is there, and sit with it/ignore it.i feel like a lot of men do this as they get older and accept they wont get hot girls)

good luck

Lmao same bro. Next time you pathetically beat your meat (later today bc you are a virgin) remember us

>youtube vids on women/men dating and learning where you are wrong..this is very hard because you have to accept you are wrong, which is hard for the ego
most of those videos tell you to treat women at most like objects for you to fuck and at least like they're a lower being than you, and I can never bring myself to believing that

phone posting ya nigger

Kill yourself before 30
also donate all your cryptos to me since you're going to be dead

Take fuck ton of steroids and be a fitness IG model and start your own gym. Its easy money but you wont live long.

At least you wont be ‘completely’ ugly after 2 years

Hang in there OP