I make 8k a month and have two kids and a wife. I live in a super cheap part of the country. What fucking gives Jow Forums I don't spend shit. Are wife and kids a bad investment?
I'm broke
Have a third and buy just a little bitcoin when you can :)
I still don't get how much have to make burgers to have a decent life
Is that English?
I make 12k+ a month, single, no kids in a moderately cheap part of the country. I'm living great!
Your wife probably spends a lot of money.
The consumerism virus is strong in America. The happiest people are somewhere in the middle income wise (50k-60k a year) and live down to Earth lifestyles.
Come on cucktard, i don't have time to speak plain english, probably your wife gives your money to a nig when you're out working.
Ah shit. You right. My mistake
Yes, i mean, it's not clear the average amount of money you have to make, i'm not talking about rich people, but the average ones.
I know people who makes 2-3 jobs at once to get to pay the bills, it seems insane.
Are you single by choice?
African American here,
Yes she does pay me. Really she pays me to not come in her and I fuck her for free. She has no ass and she just lays there on her back like a lazy ho but it's a living
From what I've gathered most people trap themselves in that situation by making big decisions way too early in life. On the other hand though there are a fair amount of people who grew up poor and have to do that sort of thing just to put food on the table.
The definition of work in America is pretty loose however. Many have side gigs that they go to less than 8 hours a week and consider that a whole new job. They aren't wrong but it's not a full-time thing. At one point I had 3 jobs, but one was a side thing I did on the weekends for a few hours and the other two were for the same company and building, but in a different branch and with a different role. I would work a standard 6-2 in the first role M-F, and then go directly to working in the second role a few days of the week for a shift. It definitely wasn't comparable to working 2 full time jobs for separate companies.
Nice larp faggot.
Should have went MGTOW fren.
MGTOW life is stress free and you will always have tons of free time and more money than you can spend. Freedom is priceless and these poor men give it away to slave for a woman, I don't get it.
Because less than 6 figs is kind of a shit wage these days for a single person, let alone a guys with fucking 2 kids. Its hard to hear the truth but its still the truth. If you don't hit at least $200k married you will never live the "american dream." I'm not being pessimistic that's just how it has always been. The wife, 2 kids, a house with a fence meme was top 10%. 90% of people are neofeudalist peasants.
Larp, its another incel
Wondering why your bike disappeared from the courtyard?
Ah ok got it, thank you.
For what i understood, less than 40k you're considered poor (at least for university standards), average people with average jobs gain 50-60k, right?
What are you a poo?
If you are white, pray to Yahweh and accept Yashua, unironically.
Yes sir obviously i'm sir, buy Bat now please or i'll get whiped on my back from my supervisor
>For what i understood, less than 40k you're considered poor (at least for university standards), average people with average jobs gain 50-60k, right?
it's hard to measure in cash, especially if you have a family
a lot of people are happier making 45k if they get benefits like health insurance than if they make 60k without it and have to pay out of pocket
We live on five acres nigger. No courtyard but niggers did used to break in my car all the time when I was younger part of the reason the wife and I decided to move far away from them
I live in europe, salaries are more average than yours, maybe because of fixed taxes (you can't choose to have insurance for example)
Glad you were having fun of my english sir, you could evaluate the possibility to use some commas sometimes, they don't bite
It depends on where you live. In rural areas, working class people who make 20k can have a "decent" standard of living assuming they budget. In the same area, people who make 50-60k can be considered the "core" middle class for the area, while a doctor making over 100k will live rather lavishly with a large home and a large property. The average earner, especially on the younger end, makes somewhere around 30k however, even with a college education or a trade certification.
This all goes out the window when people move into big cities. People will make more money generally, but all of that will get eaten up by Cost of living expenses like rent and groceries. Unskilled jobs will still only pay around 20k/year in cities, and that's where the lot of the people who have to work 2-3 jobs to pay bills live. I remember watching a documentary a few years back where a group of young adults from places like California and New York moved into surplus temporary housing trailers in rural North Dakota to take advantage of their unusually high wages and low cost of living to get out of the trap.
makes zero sense. i supported a family with 2 kids in sydney australia and lived right downtown and only made 3.5k a month. i had no family there and rented an apartment. you or your wife is doing something retarded
How can we help you when you didnt post a budget or past history of your expenses. You are spending a lot somewhere. For me it's mainly food budget, little oil field towns have inflated prices.
Yes, kind of. But I do have a holiday girlfriend in Southeast Asia.