National Debt

Is it a genuine concern or is it just a meme?

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its a big meme. nothings gonna happen we can just print more money, stop listening to these commies whining about muh debt

Its going to be 30 trillion by the time trump finishes his secon term. He has already added 2 trillion in 2 years. Republicans are doing this so they can bankcrupt america and have an excuse to invade more countries as a distraction and to steal gold and oil from poorer countries. America V.s Venezuala is happening before the end of his 1st term. 100% jews have been planning this for a while now.

>spending a trillion more dollars than we're able to produce
everything is fine goy keep putting 5% in your 401k

The national debt is a concern mainly depending on who is in office. Hardly anyone said shit about the debt when Obongo was the Head Nigga in Charge, in contrast it's now the end of the world thanks to the evil emperor Blormpf, the Orange One.

>nothings gonna happen we can just print more money
if this cheat code worked all those countries that tried it would be prosperous but they're not

I don't know the answer but wouldn't printing money make loans riskier
also printing gibs or fake stimulating the economy isn't going to replace production from jobs

based dubs for truth. I agree with you user. Trump is a disaster for the economy and national debt is not a meme. We are all fucked and heading towards total collapse and BTC will be the new reserve currency and heavily controlled by china and russia. Americas dominence on the world stage is over.

>tfw you realise all economic growth since WWII has been one massive bubble

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bruh
if loans default you just print more money and bail out the banks. and immigrant workers will take care of the economic growth. literally nothing can go wrong so stop being a pussy

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ita not a meme, it just means your country is a debt slaves to foreign countries like israel and always will be.

oh no no no

First day on the job?

It's a meme. The debt has been around 100% of GDP since WW2.

Not as long as the debt doesn't grow faster than real GDP growth rate plus inflation. Since it does, you're looking at either austerity or more inflation in the long run.

You do realize they just create money out of thin air, ex nihilo, right?
You do realize the entire principle of the debt is that it can't be paid back, it is to turn the goyim into cattle paying interests forever, right?
You do realize this is why antisemites are antisemites, right?

hes right. the jews have sucked dry your country and you morons think their wealth = america's wealth. once there is nothing else to leech off they will leave you all to die in a civil war or a race war. only deluded burguers cant see this

what if we start convincing college debt slaves who can't find work to leave the economy and start using bitcoin
because banks will not give them access to any financial tools if they decide to not pay

then we build collectives in a certain area so we can take over local votes
and start using what they learned in school to offer a service or product but only use bitcoin/crypto whatever works best
us oldfags who made money in this stuff just some of our gains to kickstart the new economy with low interest loans and community building activities

Trump is buying popularity by running a deficit to give tax cuts, so that his approval rating won't dip below 40%

Quality post

Yes, it will lead to the collapse of the dollar and world economy. When that will happen is not clear, but it's coming.

Do you know what triggered the crisis in Greece? It was discovered that the Greek government had cooked the books and had a lot more debt than they claimed. Investors freaked out at the possibility that they were going to default. All of sudden they could only borrow money at 30% on the bond market. When the cheap money tries up, America will be fucked. The Fed can print more money but this always leads to hyperinflation.

American debt to GDP is around 100% right now. China is dumping US treasuries. The petrodollar is collapsing. Countries like Venezuala are selling oil in Yuan. China and Russia have set up their own payment system to circumvent sanctions on USD trade (financial warface).

Read Zerohedge, get educated senpai.

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Makes you wonder how many political shitpost are authentic and how many are social media terrorists trying to demoralize Americans.

Another paid shill replying to himself. Does your boss know you are this awful?

Caveat emptor

All Politicians buy their popularity through Gov't programmes or tax cuts desu. The economy is a hot potato, politicians just hope they can pass it on to the next schmuck before it explodes in their hands

99.999.9.9.999% of money doesn't exist so it doesn't matter.

The true redpill is that WWII was draft-only (no volunteering) which then drafted a 60/40% ratio intentionally from republican voting bases to destroy the country.

The absolute hell of a redpill that is actually crushed me man.

Wrong. Rule of law

You took the bait, you must be new here so fuck off back to you know where.

contribute something worthwhile faggot your "joke" isn't funny.

Amerikkka is will go through Hyperinflation similar like in Weimar Germany in 1920-1930s

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What does it matter if my ancestors killed republican bootlickers or demcratic boozlickers you are all a bunch of mongrel niggerlovers in the usa no exception even your gay (((republicans)))
Genetic trash we should just kill all of you

that will only happens once there is no spirit for retaliation.
the last nail in the coffin will only happens once america demographics are absolutely fucked and they achieve greater israel so they can escape there.
otherwise there would probably be another shoah

Only the creator is allowed to use the cheat code. All the others will suppressed and destroyed. Thank god the mighty army of freedom is on our side.

It's something to keep in mind, but right now it isn't an issue. The US debt:GDP ratio isn't bad.

Someone post the debt redpill. That a large portion of the debt is owed to banks

>I don't know the answer but wouldn't printing money make loans riskier
It would make loans safer but tank interest rates.

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we can just print more money

The better redpill is that a large portion of government debt is owed to the government itself.

Nani??

You're a buffoon.

Economist here, OP.
Nothing gonna happen, why?
Because USA is the most powerful country in the world, California, by example, is more rich than BRAZIL, look at the size of Brazil, is a fucking continent. USA has the power to expand the monetary base indefinitely, of course, beign rational in this process, ignore the fucking MM'ts theorists.

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Yes. Fun how that works.

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calm down dude no need to get so angry. go ask your mom for some tiddy milk

They said the same about Rome nigga

Nothing will ever happen because the whole world is in debt. It basically doesn't matter anymore.

Did Rome have a fiat currency that existed as part of a global system of fiat currencies with heavy international trade and nuclear deterrents?

Explain why I should use the debased and jewed US dollar which is guaranteed to lose purchasing power over time, rather than converting it into sound money such as Gold or Bitcoin.

>Read Zerohedge
they have been calling for collapse for 10+ years. why should I start believing them now?

Gold and bitcoin are more volatile and less usable. Can you go to the gas station and buy gas with gold or bitcoin? I can't. USD is more usable and stable.

Kind of. Rome had a massive professional standing army that could deploy anywhere. This basically like having a nuke back then.

Not really, no.

>stable
I can buy gas with it, sure. It has purchasing power today and possibly tomorrow as well. But anyone who keeps more than petty cash in federal reserve notes is begging to have their wealth confiscated from them through inflation. Gold and Bitcoin will preserve this wealth.

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Major.

You know what's even better? Investing in revenue-generating assets to grow your wealth.

Just imagine being this desperate to cling to the Jewish lies that infinite money can be printed with no negative consequences for you or for your savings

The US will remain the world's superpower only as long as USD remains the world reserve currency.

America runs a trade defecit every year. It's number one export is the US Dollar! That's because USD is the world reserve currency largely due to the petrodollar, which is cracking right now. What do you think the crisis in Venezuala is really about?

China and Russia are already breaking free. The Saudis have now even threatened to ditch the petrodollar.

The US empire will not last much longer.

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Also
>stable
As in not volatile. It declines over time through inflation but in the short term the value doesn't have extreme fluctuations like, say, Bitcoin.

>Economist here
>Bunch of nonsense
This is why nobody who is a serious thinker respects your "profession"

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USD is stable and is the currency that has the highest liquidity, and u can assure the value of the "real" money buying BTC and gold.
>normal life
Buying BTC, Stocks, national debt.
>crisis
BTC, gold.
>apocalypse
GOLD and GOLD.

The uniparty takes turns caring about the national debt. Also, the media wasn't as consolidated into rubbing Jew hands 20 years ago as it is today.

how can you say that israel is the holder of the foreign debt when the vast majority of government bonds are being held by china, india, japan, etc. ?

Ok, jew theorist.

How many years have I been hearing this now? I wonder.

Government debt is a problem whenever the country struggles to pay off its own debt and starts strangling citizens with taxes.
Italy is 130% Debt/GDP but just under 50% GDP for government spending, the US is 108% Debt/GDP but with 36/37% GDP in government spending for example.
The US isn't as much as debt constrained as Italy, even if the Debt/GDP ratio is becoming similar.
TLDR: The US isn't facing a potential debt crisis, for now.

No one storing their savings in sound global money rather than a debased local currency (which will soon be rewarding them with negative interest rates as well as inflation) is concerned about short term fluctuations.

What in the flying fuck are you talking about? The debt was one of the forefront topic even on the liberal media during Obama. The issue now is that policies are being put in place intended to instill growth to offset tax losses but they aren't working like planned. Dem's want to tax the shit out of you to pay for tranny hug boxes, Repubs just want to charge the credit card till the end of time and never pay for shit because they are economic retards...but no tranny hugbox. Either way you are getting a shit show.

Because those people are fools who don't understand why gold was replaced by fiat in the first place. Either you want money that you can depend on to have a certain purchasing power in the short term, like USD, or you want assets which will grow in value in the long term, like stocks or real estate. Gold is a hedge that you use against the market, not money.

Gold was replaced by fiat because communists were not able to implement their central planning policies if they were constrained by sound money. The USD has short term purchasing power - for now. What makes it immune to the hyperinflation which has nobbled fiat currencies on at least 56 occasions in the past century?

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Thank you, Antman. Very cool.

>Gold was replaced by fiat because communists were not able to implement their central planning policies if they were constrained by sound money.
Wrong.
>The USD has short term purchasing power - for now.
And for the foreseeable future.
>What makes it immune to the hyperinflation which has nobbled fiat currencies on at least 56 occasions in the past century?
A central bank that is intentionally insulated from partisan politics.

Are (((you))) paid to shill here?

I wish. If the Fed wants to sponsor me that would be great.

Why is a totalitarian monopoly on the creation of credit considered to be non-partisan? I mean, I understand why a Jew would say that. But it isn't, is it.

Because it isn't being constantly subjected to the whims of politicians that need to pander to voters. They have a mission statement that they can pursue even if it's unpopular.

Keep holding those Federal Reserve Notes, goyim

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We've all been subjected to their (((non-partisan))) asset bubbles and balance sheet expansion designed solely to preserve their power at the top of the federal reserve system. And the net result is that anyone who faithfully keeps their savings in US dollars is being deliberately robbed of their wealth.
The media, controlled by Jews, is doing the citizenry a disservice every day that it fails to point this obvious truth out. All to prop up a completely fake currency with nothing underpinning its "value" apart from faith in the (((central bankers))). And of course, that lingering threat of State violence against those who seek to peaceably use alternatives.

>insane conspiracy ranting intensifies
I'm not going to pretend that the Fed is perfect. It isn't. Mistakes have been made in the past and I'm sure mistakes will be made in the future, but they do a good job overall and they're certainly better than what we had before.

>what is inflation

The real concern would be when people stop buying America debt

Good bait user, you had me fooled for a while. Do you accept that interest rates can never be "normalized" again under the tenure of the Federal Reserve and will necessarily go negative?

Not a problem for the people in charge.

Considering interest rates were raised multiple times last year, no, I do not.

Its just a meme. They can just mint a $100 trillion coin and then deposit it at the bank. Problem solved.

It's a big meme in terms of politicians talking about it. Like during voting time they'll be like "muh fucken debt", but then when they are in office nobody cares anymore. They'll just keep printing more, do some monetary schemes, invade countries etc etc. I doubt they'll let anything collapse into a total fucking anarchy. They won't profit from a 100 million rednecks running around with guns. And besides most of the debt is to the USA itself or something? Like only 30% is to foreign countries. It's a huge meme, but just in case keep some tangible assets when shit hits the fan.

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> And besides most of the debt is to the USA itself or something?

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Then why did they stop raising rates?

Because they determined that was best? The fact is that they did in fact raise them, which proves that they are capable and willing to do so, which suggests to me that your claim that rates will necessarily go negative is false.

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