Okay this is epic

>get with the times
>buy a last-wave altcoin that made nobody rich

Is this what Asuka user was using?

He's saying he's not in the space at all. I'm probably going to get shit on for this, but I'm also a poorfag newb. I put a significant portion of my tax return on etherium classic. Then it effectively doubled, which was neat. So, if you want to gamble a bit on what you perceive as an oncoming positive market cycle, I'd say throw a few bucks into the lower cost coins. If bitcoin rises, so do they, often to a much, much greater magnitude.

I wish Jow Forums had mods and janitors to clean up this annoying shit

Damnnnn congrats on making money

take your pajeet scamcoin and shove it up your gay black lover's ass

so basically it goes up then down then up then down

The best time to buy bitcoin was 5 years ago. The second best time is today.

Trade BTC on leverage.

but they aint nothin like billy n me

>calling the bull market without a period of accumulation

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blockchain.com/btc/unconfirmed-transactions

>implying btc will ever reach ath again
I'm bullish on crypto, just not btc.

The second best time was 4.99 years ago.

the only thing a bear market means for me is more cheapies before my mcmansion purchase

you would expect they would switch it up a little bit

you had a full year for accumulation

Sorry dude, you missed it.

Nobody expected the 2nd pump and dump to be like the 1st.Now everyone thinks the 3rd will be like the 1st and 2nd then you know it won't be anything like it.Markets never do what you think they will.

I was posting this chart at $6k calling for a drop and all you delusional bulls were saying the same thing you are now. Maybe we wont reach that bottom quadrant, but if that was accumulation there will almost certainly be a restest. $100m buy order spread across multiple exchanges, running stops and causing the squeeze that we saw, THIS ISNT ACCUMULATION

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What makes your meme lines different from the meme lines of the bullfags again?

That's a big pitchfork.

Mine were right. Also, bitcoin has only ever existed in a global expansion. For the first time in it's life interest rates are rising and the liquidity and "free money" it has suckled on is drying up. Anyone who thinks that run was all mainstreet is a fool. But now money is moving into more risk averse assets, cause the first yield curve inversion we've seen in over a decade. The party isn't necessarily over, but hedge your bets is all I'm saying, although I guess most of you aren't playing with real money

this guy knows..
"MUH LINES GUYS"

they are nice lines and you should appreciate them

i would appreciate them more if you could tell a brainlet such as I what makes your crystal ball more accurate than the ones saying 100k by 2021

It starts with fundamentals, see
It's mainly about liquidity, which dries up during a recession. The US is almost in it's longest expansion ever, the fed is paused on QT for now but the message is clear, we are only one or two years out from a recession, and IMO it's gonna be hard on public debt. At the tail end of an expansion we should be paying down the debt by now, but we can't even reduce the deficit. Plus we have zombie corporations who are issuing junk bonds that are being miss-rated by the ratings agencies, and the entire corporate sector as a whole is over levered. I just don't think now is the time to buy risky assets unless you are only gambling with a few grand

but Jow Forums can't handle whats above, so I just post meme lines

I appreciate them. You think it would ever break this cycle?

I see where you're getting at and it's the main reason I decided to exit stocks right now myself, but do you personally see American corporations and government debt having any bearing on the price of cryptocurrency?

I would agree more if we were talking about NASDAQ, but we have no idea how crypto will react in a recession. It's a meme I know but I think in that event normies are going to look in the traditional sectors (commodities, metals, etc.) but now included in that list will be crypto, especially since it APPEARS to be stagnating at a bottom. But I'm a noob at this so I'll prob be wrong regardless.

Yes but people are not patient. The old saying is "the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent". Eventually the bull will return. It will probably be instigated by hedera hashgraph, in a similar way Eth facilitated the last run. Really Hedera is delivering all the promises of Eth and is better in every single category, it's just a matter of time. Bitcoin monero and eventually grin are also worth accumulating, but hashgraph will be pulling institutional money.

You know you sounded pretty good until you started shilling another DAG and a coin with a happy face for a logo.

There's definitely a correlation. If the spx turns over I expect bitcoin to at least consolidate. Most of my bids are from $2.7-2k, so we'll see

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Just honest about my investments. Grin is right about their emissions and block halving is effectively a premine, otherwise we should all agree MW is good tech. And Hashgraph is different than iota, holo, nano, fantom, etc. Hedera is probably the most legitimate altcoin in the space, the only category it loses in is fungibility, but in regards to security, governance, fairness, and throughput/latency Hashgraph is the clear winner. Luckily everyone is fudding them so it should be cheap on launch

>Hashgraph is different than iota, holo, nano, fantom, etc
Why, because its even more centralized?

What do you think will be the catalyst for ~3K? Simple impatience and uncertainty?

Yes, yes, fud the hashgraph, nothing to see here
Most of the broader markets are moved largely by algorithms, and they have wrapped their tentacles around bitcoin. There doesn't even need to be a catalyst, people certainly had no problem buying on literally no news

All DAGs are centralized, gayboi.

That's like saying "all drugs are bad for you"; the term DAG, like the term "drug", is a broad category. Hedera is indeed starting out centralized, but they have a clear plan to bootstrap the public and open network, and their consensus algorithm is literally a breakthrough. People can call is "closed source" and "centralized", but like it or not this is where institutional money is going. Almost nobody realizes how big this actually is, I'm basically giving you free money

IOTA isn't a DAG. The genesis transaction references itself, so "acyclic" can't be used here.

Regardless, Iota is a shitcoin, they will never achieve the necessary volume of transactions to secure their network and will always need the coordinator. Plus zero node incentive means nobody wants to run a fucking node. AND they dont have timestamps, so no smart contracts. Actual hot garbage

he is drawing a straight line on a log chart

this is the closest thing i have seen to a reasonable chart it's straight on log-log

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>People can call is "closed source" and "centralized"
that's just other words for garbage in crypto

timestamping.IXI — popov wrote an entire fucking paper about this.

qubic — google it.
q-node — google it.

open source coordinator implemented on mainnet... literally today.

i legitimately feel sorry for you user :( must suck to be so clueless

you can also google inatba - it’d be pretty neat to be on the board of an initiative that will define the regulatory future of your own project, wouldn’t it? it’d almost be as if you could make sure to shape the regulations so that they fit with your own tech standards.

and feel free to check out the data marketplace as well.. and the partner list.

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Just answer the question faggot

So according to heikin ashi previous bear lasted 1.5 years while current 1 just 1 year.
Aren't the cycles getting longer stretched out? This makes me think it's a bull trap and at least until 2020 or 21 we will continue to descend.