Hardcore doomer here

hardcore doomer here
should I hop on Zoloft/Prozac?
will it help me escape doomer life or will it make me kms?
or should i just keep on LDARing?

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They'll make it worse

Order some phenibut, just read up on how to avoid becoming dependent on it.

Don't listen to this guy, phenibut will make your situation way worse if you become addicted.

Megadose 5htp (800mg).

Works like an anti-depressant but doesnt make you limp dinked or fat

i tried phenibut several times and felt nothing. not even 0.5L of beer effect wtf

Good, for me, fucked me up

Zoloft fucks you up. I took it for around 1 year until I didn't notice any difference.

The first few weeks on it will FUCK you up. Like seriously brain zaps and shit. If you've ever tried MDMA it is like the weird serotonin depletion feeling you feel on a come down from that. It also made me have random euphoric days until it settled in.

Kind of makes you a robot lad.

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try NKNW and avoid SSRI's.

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OP go onto lexapro. It's the newest and most selective SSRI. It's the only thing I've ever taken that can make me feel fearless socially.

if you are set on getting some pills from your goydoctor get Adderall and then go to college that shit will really set you straight.

I'm on zoloft and personally it was a rough few weeks before adjustment and a tough couple of months before everything regulated. I think for me personally it was worth it and helped me deal with the issues at hand. I'm also in therapy so those two in conjunction can help. Never had any dick issues, everything is functional in the same way. Again, anecdotal. Godspeed, hope you find something that works for you

You guys clearly don't know anything about pharmacology. Unless you take carbidopa, you should not take 5-htp with any regularity. And definitely don't megadose it.

In regard to the former, your body takes tryptophan and converts it into 5-htp, which is then converted into serotonin. Tryptophan->5-htp is rate limited, meaning it stops after you have synthesized enough 5-htp and you produce an appropriate amount of serotonin. However, taking 5-htp skips the rate limitation and all of it is converted to 5-htp, often in far too high an amount. The main issue is that when this conversion happens peripherally (outside the brain), the serotonin can bind to 5-ht2a receptors which are dense in your heart valves. This causes a hardening of those valves over time and can lead to cardiac failure. This is actually one of the major health risks of MDMA--- heart damage. Taking Carbidopa (or EGCG extracted from green tea) prevents the peripheral conversion of 5-htp into serotonin outside the brain. However, neither can cross the blood brain barrier so all the 5-htp will enter the brain and convert into serotonin there, rather than all over your body.

You do not want to megadose 5-htp as it skips the rate-limiting step. You will either get serotonin syndrome or desensitize yourself to serotonin through receptor downregulation.

LOL I'm a Goy+, oy vey

sorry, realized I meant to write in the main paragraph that all the 5-htp you take is converted into serotonin

Thanks user, read this before. Id rather suffer a heart attack in the long run than walking around depressed all the time.

Take the anti-black pills but you probably won't because you think they are unmanly. Well let me tell you something, killing yourself so your family is eternally scarred and spreading of the doom will make you unmanly.

Go onto lexapro instead. It's a much safer way to elevate serotonin in the brain and it works immediately.

Lexapro worked great for me except it made me disinterested in sex and lethargic. It was really cool to feel zero social anxiety for once in my life. I stopped taking it after a few months, but if shit ever gets really bad in my life, like terminal cancer, I might give it another shot.

Just read into it. I couldnt live with erectal disfunction or gaining massive weight though.

5htp just gets the edge off of feeling empty, and doomerish.

I have a semi bareable wagecucking job. Beautifull animals.Nihilistic doomy friends who can laugh with. Cute gf who is good to me. Enjoy life often.

Theres always just this chronic feeling of emptyness and uselessness returning.

>taking pills to be happy
Remove your weak genes

Im probably just bipolar and trying to battle the goddamn depressions with all kinds of useless shit; benzos, chronic alcoholism, 5htp name it.

Just lift heavy weights, after a good session I feel so happy and calm.

When I sit rotting in my room for more than one day thats when my mental health goes to shit, I feel like crap and like lifes not worth living

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Check out lithium orotate. Helps my shit when things get slightly unbearable. No side effects.

Thats an interesting one. Will look into it. Especially given its effect on bipolar patients.

Your depressed episodes mix up with uplifted allmost manic changes as well?

Just smoke deems, bro

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Here's the kicker to all that. There are the monoamine neurotransmitters dopamine, serotonin, and norepinephrine. They are all degraded by the enzyme Monoamine oxidase, of varying subtypes. If you elevate one of these neurotransmitters, MAO increases to compensate. If you are only elevating serotonin as is the case with SSRIs, the heightened MAO activity will metabolize the serotonin at a higher rate as your body is attempting to compensate--- but it also metabolizes dopamine and norepinephrine faster, so they are quickly depleted while serotonin levels remain high. The consequence is a feeling of lethargy, low energy, decreased motivation, and low libido.

The increased clearance of dopamine in particular upsets your HPTA axis, which means your testosterone levels are minorly decreased and your prolactin levels are elevated. Dopamine regulates these things among many others. Prolactin is the hormonal underpinning of the refractory period after you have an orgasm--- it spikes when you cum, decreasing your libido and making it harder to cum again soon after. Chronically elevated prolactin levels basically leave you in a permanent refractory period. The best way to normalize this is by elevating dopamine, which restores the balance to the HPTA axis. Most of the time when people have sexual side effects from SSRI's, Bupropion (wellbutrin) is thrown into the mix. It's a reuptake inhibitor of both dopamine and norepinephrine, which helps with the HPTA axis effects as well as the basic problems of energy and motivation.

Don't take the drugs user. When I was much younger man I took just about every anti-depressant known to man. They did much more harm than good.

There is no magic pill. Taking responsibility for your life and personal growth is the only true pathway out. Good luck

So your saying it’s fine to take 5 htp as long as it’s with EGCG? I’ve been taking 5 htp for the last month since I wanted to stop feeling like shit and it really does help

So this one levels them all out.An SSRI stacked with wellbutrin should have the anti-depressive effects with the wellbutrin leveling out the lethargy and lack of sex drive. Correct?

I did not like the effects of taking either. I felt like they turned me into what felt like a zombie drone. Also they can mess with your ability to get a boner and cum. 0/10 would not recommend.

Maybe consider therapy. Check out Kati Morton's youtube channel. I thought her videos were helpful, and maybe you will too.

>youtube.com/user/KatiMorton

If you do end up going on SSRI's, whatever you do don't quit cold turkey. That shit will fuck you up. Wean yourself off slowly. I still feel like I'm fucked up from that.

Correct.

Yeah predose with the EGCG.

Huh? I was on Zoloft and I quit cold turkey and I literally only felt better

if you wannna be serious 1) do 23 and me 2) if it says your genetics are prone to depression imho it could help. Start with the lowest dose than work up. Bias: I do take an SSRI for my genetically-linked depression

vitamin c helps too