FUCK BERNIE SANDERS

FUCK BERNIE SANDERS

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$230 billion in market cap wiped out in the past 48 hours since Bernie made his "medicare for all" statements

fuck off leech. We deserve medicare like all 1st world countries. If you don't like it fuck off back to India

Damn right.

Bernie knows his socialist ideas don’t work with open borders. I would make that bargain.

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>wanting medicare paid by other people
>calling others leeches

I live in one of those "1st world countries", our healthcare is complete shit. It's also not free, if you're working it costs you 400€/month.
It's only free for jobless people.

Imagine being against giving niggers and illegals free shit. So racist and bigoted

>calls him a leech
>wants his money
typical big city amerilard

Bernie my-net-worth-is-$2M-but-I-pretend-I-care-for-the-poor Sanders?

He's not for open borders. He calls them a "Koch Brothers idea" that would lower wages. He's an old school pro-labor type so I believe him on that.

yeah lets just destroy all investor confidence in the biotechs!!!!

that will surely help our medical industry!

> €400
That's still less than half of what Americans pay. The quality of public health care varies a lot between different European countries. It's quite good here in Scandinavia and A LOT cheaper than the American health care system. Google health care costs per capita by country. I'm a big fan of free markets, but privatizing health care really does add a ton of extra unnecessary costs. The American health care system has several other problems that I won't get into..

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the US subsidizes healthcare globally

enjoy our wonder drugs you fucking yuropoor

>but privatizing health care really does add a ton of extra unnecessary costs
Healthcare costs in america were cheapest when healthcare was private
>Big fan of free markets
No you aren't.

My country has a significantly higher GDP per capita than the US kek. The "subsidizing" only explains a small part of the differences in health care costs. But yes the drug companies are cucking you fatasses because your shitty system is so easy to exploit. European drug companies make you pay way higher prices too kek.

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cant wait till Islam destroys you

Free market doesn't do anything for healthcare because you're dealing with something entirely more complicated when it comes to people's health.

>Faggots giving Bernie Sanders their rent money for the promise of free college instead of pooling resources and starting a scholarship fund

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You don't need to theorycraft when the data is already available. Free market already worked in the past. Sorry gommie

>free market doesnt do anything for healthcare

try explaining that to companies that build/invent medical devices

you think they are doing it for charity?

thefederalist.com/2019/03/01/democrats-new-single-payer-bill-destroy-everything-good-health-care/

> Healthcare costs in america were cheapest when healthcare was private
Uhm what
> No you aren't
Yes I am. Being a fan free markets doesn't mean that you have to think free markets are the solution for everything, brainlet. How about you privatize your police and see how that goes?
Cute.
> iceland: 99% white
> burgerland: 60% white

This is literally such a minor problem in Europe outside a few select areas. America is a literal 3rd world country larping as a 1st world country and its citizens are so brainwashed and retarded they defend getting cucked on a daily basis.

No it didn't. Single payer is extremely cheaper than private, plus private allowed companies to collude and take advantage of people.
Has nothing to do with the conversation.

it has everything to do with this conversation

profits are the incentive for companies to risk their money investing in new drugs or technologies. if you take away the profits you take away the incentive

are you a brainlet or just trolling

But it's literally impossible to be cheaper on a per purchase basis. The government is just buying the healthcare the consumer would have normally bought on this own, but now you have to pay for a massive bureaucracy too. It can't be cheaper

OH BOY I CANT WAIT TO FEDERALLY FUND ABORTIONS WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY DRIVING OUR DRUG COMPANIES OUT OF BUSINESS

THANKS BERNIE! IM REALLY FEELING THE BERN NOW!!!

THIS!! WE NEED MORE NIGGER BABIES!! ABORTION IS BLACK GENOCIDE!!!

Voting for the worst possible candidate is always the best option. Accelerationism isn't a meme

NO YOU FOOL WE WANT *MORE* ABORTIONS

ITS A WOMANS RIGHT TO KILL THEIR BABIES, DESTROY THE PATRIARCHY

FUCK YOU
ABORTION = BLACK GENOCIDE
ABORTIONISTS ARE LITERALLY HITLER

This. Sure, if your household is making $400k+/year then the US is great. If that's you, congrats. But the vast majority of Americans don't have higher standards of living than people from the wealthy European countries. If you're in the bottom 25% if the income distribution then the US is complete shit. Your average American gets cucked on so many levels. Insane work hours, short holidays, absurd health care costs, low hourly wages, third world levels of crime, shitty education system etc.

WRONG
ANTI ABORTIONISTS ARE LITERALLY HITLER
ABORTION = FEMINISM

WHY YOU WANT TO GENOCIDE BLACK PEOPLE YOU BIGOT? BLACK ABORTIONS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL. ALL NIGLETS ARE MADE BY GOD IN HIS IMAGE AND DESERVE A CHANCE TO LIVE YOU FUCKING BIGOT ABORTIONIST

I don't get it. It's not like big pharma has to give away the medicine for free. The state/insurance company will be forced to foot the bill. So by all accounts this just mean an even more secure source of income.
But hey, burgers aren't humans. Fuck knows how they think and why this is bad for the pharmaceuticals

>implying the government is going to be paying retail prices

>UK
>First world
LMAO, not a single anglosphere country is first world.

I went into the hospital with severe stomach pain and got slapped for almost 30,000 dollars worth of medical bills AFTER INSURANCE. I regularly avoid getting help for medical problems and I’ve had a friend die because they couldn’t afford to go to the hospital. Fuck off with your weak argument and go suck some more right wing corporate dick.

He just released 10 years of his tax returns showing he didn’t have a lot of money until he started getting royalties off his book deal after Hillary fucked him over. I wouldn’t expect your average Jow Forums nigger to ever use facts in an argument though. You’re all really fucking stupid and you show it every time you post some weak bullshit like this.

Uhm... That's the euro sign, not the pound sign.. Also, you might wanna google the definition of "first world".

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Finally, someone who understands the difference between privatizing goods and manufacturing companies and privatizing public services. Shit hits the fan with the latter, but idiots are still waiting for the (((free murkitt))) to do its magic.
What an absolute retard. I really hope you go bankrupt after a minor medical procedure while I stay safe with my European healthcare system.

The "long waiting lines" and "shortages" are just memes because medical doctors aren't retards who can't prioritize emergencies.

enjoy your taxes

lmao the way people in this thread are attacking single payer healthcare you'd think they all work for health insurance providers or something. the problem is the leeches in insurance. ACA made things worse. i've lived in the US and in countries with single payer and the cost of healthcare in the states is baffling. the government (ie the taxpayer) already provides payments to uncompensated healthcare providers anyways, might as well stop the act and just provide medicare for all

healthcare profiteers should be first on the day of the rope

>implying
Jesus, Americans have been brainwashed that Europeans are paying twice or three times the amount they pay or something.
I guess that's what happens when for a 10-20% decrease in "muh taxes" you jeopardize your healthcare, your education and life expectancy in general.
>mfw I pay 10% on capital gains and 5% in dividend taxes.
>Murica: 15% tax on capital gains, 15% on dividend tax

Berntard just gave you a dip to buy
Its not like commie faggots will ever win

Having a manic episode buddy? Or maybe you forgot to take your meds?

>never heard of $100 hammers
...

imagine being this economically illiterate while posting on biz

imagine being THIS dumb and ignorant and posting on biz
oh wait, that makes perfect sense

I hope you and your friend die

LMAO who needs health care? Those Viet vets did just fine despite suffering far more than any of you zoomer kiddies

It was cheaper

good goy

Reminder that U.S. firms are single-handedly responsible for over 60% of all pharmaceutical innovation throughout the world, and who knows how much when it comes to treatments

European countries receive practically free drugs by applying tariffs, threatening to break these US firms' IP, enforcing price controls and not investing dick into medical innovation (largely opting out of the market forcing U.S. firms pick up their slack) themselves.

European countries that happen to dominate the market on certain pre-existing life saving compounds like insulin (Novo Nordisk, Sanofi) turn around and charge US customers many times over what they charge their own.

European countries often fail to meet even half their budgetary commitment to NATO (2% of GDP), even as Russia and China begin to make power plays on the world stage.

European countries don't have an underclass of tens of millions of obese n-words clogging up hospitals (current obesity rate in US is something like 65%)

European countries often have a much higher population of medical practitioners, especially general practitioners, whereas in the US something like 80% of doctors are specialists

Despite all of this, European countries are taxed as if they were in a state of total war to pay for their benefits systems, with notable examples like Norway whom are so overtaxed their government could give each citizen nearly $200,000 USD but will never choose to do so.

Treating the populations of Europe or the role our respective countries play on the world stage as if they're symmetrical is completely short sighted and will prove be a disaster in due time (and I firmly believe it will be given the opportunity). The only reason the Europeans can laud their terrible, flawed system without embarrassment is because they're dunning-krugers ignorant of the geopolitical and social circumstances that's led to the U.S.' unenviable situation in the first place.

Americans are forced into debt, Europeans are born into it.

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Good. Big insurance doesn't need anymore commie hand-outs.

Kek. Just met the dumbest mother fucker on earth. Too rich to be poor and too poor to be middle class. Get rekt slave.

Bulgaria bro?

A lot of American pharma innovation is based on European basic research and applied research. You conveniently "forgot" to mention that. Or perhaps you just didn't know. The EU does a lot more (relatively speaking) basic/applied medical researh than the US. A lot of medicine companies choose to locate themselves in the US because it's such a profitable market, not neccesarily because 'muh the US is numbah 1'. Just look at how many employees a company like Novo Nordisk Employs in the US despite doing most of their research in Denmark.

Romania, my southern Danube friend.

I hope Bernie wins, the butthurt will be magnificent! Bigger than Trump ^ Obama.

by "butthurt" I assume you mean massive financial meltdown

that one is coming anyway

Nice boogieman, just like Bush was going to take away abortion & Obama was going to confiscate guns & Trump was going to build a wall.
Keep chugging the kool-aid you fucking mong

>REAL SOCIALISM HASNT BEEN TRIED YET REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

This is spoken correctedly.

I only want to see people unhappy & forced to have a president they hate. That's why I danced in the street when Trump was elected, one group of retards was unhappy now it's time for the other group of retards.

Funny thing is, I postulate that drug companies would flourish under state sponsored medicare, the government is reckless with spending and corruptable. If bernie looks like he has a chance to win and depending on how the market reacts, I would start building a portfolio of drug companies which are politcially connected and have monopolies on drugs for common afflictions.

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>But still... Bernie has money.

Summarized for you.

>overtaxed their government could give each citizen nearly $200,000 USD but will never choose to do so
You absolute brainlet, that is the Petroleum Fund. It invests the surplus revenues of the Norwegian petroleum sector.
Totally different from the state budget of Norway, which would only amount to 24.000 EUR per citizen.
At least make an effort...

2 million for his age is nothing. I'd have more money than that by the time I'm SEVENITY SEVEN years old.

That said. I'm not for Bernie. Keep your taxes off me u swines.

>fuck off leech
>give me free stuff

Okay this is epic

It’s not free nor is anyone asking for it to be free. Fuck off back to your containment board.

Listen sweety. European societies have free shit out the wazoo and they're doing fine right now. We need to immediately give the federal government power over everything and raise taxes to 90% (except for niggers and single moms, they pay nothing)

This is civilization at its peak

Probably won’t because I have a really nice health insurance plan through my job.

>fuck off leech
>restrict, tax, and limit my economic freedom at the benefit of welfare whores on both ends of the income spectrum

Okay. Now. This. Is. Epic.

Who long GILD and ABBV here?

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insurance companies are the biggest leeches moron. European countries not only have medicare for all but also spend HALF of what US spends, because the other half goes to useless insurance companies that do literally nothing but to leech free money and they keep doing it because they brainwashed a bunch of 50 IQ retards like you to believe that changing the system is somehow "against muhh freedumbss"

I hope the big insurance companies collapse entirely the chaos would be great to witness and it would boost shitcoin prices; its a win win.

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>healthcare insured by taxpayers
>elites in medicine laugh all the way to the bank with taxpayer money forever
>no need to balance resources and recklessly abuse the cashflow
>retards: but Shaneyney got a """free""" gastro bypass paid for by whites

You can get one too Tyler... jus sayin

>'muh the US is numbah 1'

Nice strawman Lars, the post wasn't about why America is great, only utilitarian given the dubious honor of what its place in the world is at this point in time and with all due consideration for the dysgenic multitudes that live there.

The post was more about how Europe is fortunate, in what ways they might be opportunistic-and also how despite these multitude of social and geopolitical advantages on account of these things their people are still being robbed relative to what they get.

Because the US problems are so acute it's easy to ignore the US government's hand in why things are as bad as they are and blame it on the system the US purports to represent (laissez-faire capitalism) rather than what's actually happening. Government largess such as the Orphan Drug Law of 1983 (which provides an extended domestic monopoly to drug makers) being one such example.

Think for a second lad and tell me why the state collected petroleum fund exhumed from the state controlled petroleum industry (22% of total gdp btw) couldn't be used to alleviate the renowned state mandated tax burden of private Norwegians?

A surplus means that a government is taking too much vs what services it is providing, I don't blame Norwegians who don't have any say in the matter for turning it into an economic dick measuring contest but it's not really something to be proud of.

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>be ameritard
>pay double the money in taxes for insurance
>still get no full coverage and have to pay thousands more extra to doctors
stay poor and dumb (and fat)

pssst hey retard. If you're paying the government to give you healthcare in the event of a disaster, the government becomes an insurance company.

Shouldn’t not having health care discourage being fat?

>be ameridumb
>die because you are poor
lmao

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Americans are also really fat and don't exercise. How is healthcare going to change that?

Surely the average politician in his position has way more?

exactly dumbass. the whole system you have now is basically a junk food/insurance industrial complex. One sector pushes you to become as much fat and unhealthy as possible so the other sector can leech you as much money as possible

>The Peter G. Peterson Foundation is an American foundation established in 2008 by Peter G. Peterson, former US Secretary of Commerce in the Nixon Administration and co-founder of the Blackstone Group, an American financial-services company.
>an American financial-services company.

And even with the highest health care cost per capita, america still isn't able to achieve universal healthcare, unlike pretty much every single other country on the list that spends less and accomplishes more.... gotta pay the CEO his U$10 mil a month amirite burger friend?

A leaflet I received from my German insurance company the other day actually encouraged "feel good with your fat self and don't care too much about what others think! FATTY PRIDE!"
So... health care will actually do the opposite of changing it. Fat people bring in money, after all. And health care is still a business. Unhealthy = fat people are good for business. Obesity isn't an exclusively US-American problem, either. It's all over the retarded West.

Think. A public health care system gives way more of an incentive to be fat. You will be treated regardless. A private health care system forces you to pay if you are ill.

>unable to differentiate the difference between euros and pounds
>first world education
I hope you're trolling m8 but we both know that's not the case.

exactly the opposite dumbass. You are ignoring the huge factor of media and advertising has on the average normie. If I was in America I would probably be fat too when 90% of ads are some new burger and cheese taco pizza concoction. Insurance companies profit the more sick and unhealthy you are. When you remove that profit incentive from these corporations and government to make you as unhealthy as possible and they would have to pay EXTRA when you get sick instead of getting paid, they will have more incentives to push you healthy food

>falling for a (((boomer pump and dump)))
kek

I want you to think about this really hard.
You're a car insurance company. Do you want people to

A.) Get into car accidents more often so you have to pay out more
B.) Get into less car accidents so you have to pay out less
Please, take your time