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but user, capitalism IS scamming

So give us something good

wouldn't say capitalism IS scamming, but it has a necessary scammy element to it that everyone is aware of and accepts because otherwise nobody will ever be able to become rich. it's kinda like an exitscam game on a global level

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Thank you

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It’s literally just because time has value, your work effort has value.
Buying strawberries and moving them to another place and selling them twice the price isn’t a scam you had to take time and resources to transport this stuff

yet you're rewarded the same as the one who put the land and time to grow and harvest, therefore production is not encouraged as much as buying low selling high whatever thing. The transport costs are not nearly the same as that of the producer.
The chain of production is extremely inefficient as it is, with every intermediary taking a big cut, people take advantage of connections other do not have and make a living off it, adding nothing of real value to the whole economy.
If distributors only took a fair share that paid their costs plus high wages we could be buying everything for cheap and have more money to invest

the game is rigged from the start, in CAPITALism those who control capital supply control everything, ie the banks

Jews hate free market capitalism.

Because I hate retards and third worlders and don't want them to make money and that's all that there is on this board.

racism isn't allowed on 4channel

Judaism isn't a race. It's a small ,rootless, international clique

no they dont they do really well on it

Fast majority of wealth is generational a minority of people "earn" it. For example the majority of rich people in the UK are descendants of aristocracy.

their ancestors earned it and passed it on to them, there isn't anything wrong with passing on your wealth to your descendants.

>jews take control of congress
>First thing they do is pass bill after bill to inflate the welfare state, breaks down free association, adds regulation after regulation, and attempts to maintain farming/educational monopolies as much as possible

Very "Capitalist"

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Earned it by killing people for it and exploiting peasants.
If I kill my landlord do I get to keep his land?

This has proven to be false though.

it's not a scam, but every time you make profit you're literally taking away someone else's labor without giving anything in return. if the system was "fair" everyone would get paid exactly how much their labor was worth which means nobody can have extra money, or profit.

What incentive is there to create a business or increase efficiency if profit doesn't exist?

Put flags in place and the horror will end

how do you think they took control of congress in the first place? by being poor useless fags?

All through out history and today people have created, invented and thought of new things without their being a profit motive.
Why would that change if we got rid of capitalism?

none

People talk about Shitcoins because it's one of the few ways that are accessible to make fortunes. We'd all be daytraders of equities, futures, and options if the government and SEC didn't absolutely ass fuck the entire U.S. market system by allowing HFTs to do the nonsense they do, brokers selling order flow, short sale restrictions, massive off-exchange delayed reporting order flow, and so on.

We'd all be starting small businesses and discussing the diverse economic opportunities we were taking advantage of if the U.S. government and its tumorous outgrowth of the banking system didn't basically make it so the only businesses you can start are either ultra high risk unheard of shit that is beyond the current scope of regulation or absolutely doomed to fail debt traps like clothing lines, restaurants, dog treat businesses and trash like that.

We'd talk about real estate investment if wages matches inflation and productivity growths over time and you could actually acquire properties that can generate a meaningful return that isn't just dumb luck. Things are the way they are for a reason. Shitcoins exist in no small part because global governments completely mismanaged capitalism itself, their currencies, their markets, populations, and so on.

Anything that can actually make you a lot of money will swiftly be swallowed up by the government cronies so they can pass the returns to their masters. Despite all of their best efforts and they sure as fuck have been making efforts, they haven't reined in crypto yet...yet. They're using everything in the playbook though to try.

if everyone else does it then society improves and you dont need to be rich to enjoy very high standards of living. Profit is ok and good motivator anyway, but profit margins shouldnt be as high in some avenues..

>All through out history and today people have created, invented and thought of new things without their being a profit motive.
Trade has only existed because of profit. Businesses have only existed because of profit. No one in history ever ran a shop without the desire to get rich from it.

Probably through lobbying, But that's a fault with democracy, not capitalism. Monarchism>Democracy

This but when you're on a Chinese basket weaving board, all the mods are Chinese too

Do you hab the discord fren?

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Well when you finish making the New Soviet Man then you can come tell us. But back in reality, 100% of businesses are created to make profit. Even Non-profit businesses are created to make money. Charities are all money makers

Exchange of goods is not capitalism.
A capitalist system and a barter system are both economic environments that are based on the law supply and demand. They both are involved in determining the price and production of goods and services. However, capitalism is focused on the creation of wealth and ownership of capital and factors of production, whereas a barter system is focused on the exchange of wealth, or goods and services.
Exchange a fish for wheat is not capitalism.

lol a majority of those people were rich or nobles who had the time and resources to sit around and come up with shit, the ordinary person in the fields was not inventing new philosophy.

Anytime people trade anything you have created wealth. Nobody exchanges A for B unless he believes B is more valuable than A, and would benefit from the trade, thus increasing their own wealth. And vice versa

I THINK THAT COMMUNISM SUCKS

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>inb4 Glavlit Gang goons

Fug off

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Why don't we ban the fucking INDIA for a month

This. If you look back at 2014-2017 none of the existing alts made it. Noone remmembers the primecoins and Feathercoins of yesterday. You gotta consolidate into btc eth and XMR if you want to see 2x-10x gains in a few years, still better than 401k

Take profits on the way up, probably, back into your fav coins. MCO was a good buy under $2. Id buy more of it when it goes under $3. Anyone with less than $100 in crypto is retarded because of all the free crypto you can get on coinbase.com or blockchain.com, LBRY gives free coins weekly, Brave will be giving free coins eventually so use their browser. Move staking coins off exchanges and stake them yourself. Lots of people with XLM dont bother staking when its just free coins to fight inflation. Since everything is up from the last 3-4 months Im just setting up automatic profit taking (bots that move coins into long term cold storage) and not getting into any new coins at the moment. Also buy Dogecoin as it has regular pumps, drink green tea, learn to mine, and setup a plex server instead of paying for netflix/hulu, then use that money to buy more crypto.

No discord, I'd join one tho as long as people in it are civil and dont try to scam each other.

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Digibyte, still strong and alive
>muh dump last year
every coin got wrecked, at least DGB is still alive and working, pushing out new stuff.

At this moment there is also the DGB summit in amsterdam with a livestream.

pls send me some crypto because why not?

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Just need it.

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It's not the system, it's the application of the system. I think capitalism is the best system we currently have because it allows for some serious retardation on behalf of the regulating body and population before shit goes off the rails, but that being said, it can still go off the rails (and largely is currently). That doesn't in any way mean that socialism or communism is the answer to all our problems. There's no indication those systems wouldn't be just as mismanaged.

The thing that people who are religiously devoted to their economic beliefs fail to ever realize is that you can wildly mismanage socialism, capitalism, communism, or any blend of them and whatever else you can come up with. It's all in the application. Capitalism isn't intrinsically good. Communism isn't intrinsically bad. If that offends you or makes your heart skip a beat, re-evaluate your tribal loyalties. People need to recognize that you need to pay close attention to how the system is being applied.

Whether you concentrate power in the hands of a Politburo or a Bilderberg group or whatever the fuck else, you're still basically making the mistake of placing the elites in a secret club that makes all the rules and allows them to further consolidate and compound their power almost certainly at the expense of the majority and civilization itself. This is great when the insider group and elites are brilliant and compassion visionaries, but over time any wisdom they may have had will become completely clouded or lost due to the position they're in.

>Whether you concentrate power in the hands of a Politburo or a Bilderberg group or whatever the fuck else, you're still basically making the mistake of placing the elites in a secret club that makes all the rules and allows them to further consolidate and compound their power almost certainly at the expense of the majority and civilization itself.
and this is why, unironically, crypto is the future. the future economic system will be automated and open source so no corruption anymore.

None but nubiz commies can't reconcilliate the two ideas of making quick money on shitcoins without producing any value and how much work and risk it takes to run a real business. Hence all the excuses about the economy/banks/jews preventing them from becoming a success. The intelligent people have largely made it abd what we have left is the rejects and losers from pol and r9k.

Gommies have some love affair with manual labor. If you aren't making money by splitting rocks in half then you're "not producing value". Labor theory of value is a big reason behind mistaken commie thinking