Switzerland what up

Anybody wageslaving in Switzerland? Wages are insane. My cousin just found a job there that requires no skills and makes 5k chf (net 4kchf). WTF!
I live only a few hours away from Switzerland but never was there and never see swiss people. They just never leave their country and nobody sets a foot in this country because as soon as you go in you lose money because everything is so expensive. It is almost north korea style apartheid.

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>5k chf (net 4kchf).
How much is that in real money

>wages are insane
so are living costs dumbass. switzerland becomes interesting only at +5m$ made it tier

1 chf is 1usd

purchasing power parity is still up 50% to the eu average.

Switzerland can be a good opportunity if you live close to the border and cross over on your way to work.

im living in germany and i am currently studying. in a few years im an engineer if everything goes right.

Problem: I dont want to get financially fucked because of taxes in this cucked country.

Is moving to switzerland an option? Do swiss people like us germans or not? Are there good possibilities to work as an engineer or do all swiss people just milk their cows and so on on their mountains?

Thx.

try dubai / uae. put in 5 years work and be set for life.

general sentiment is anti german because doctors and engeneers take good paying jobs but there currently is a massive shortage of qualified people. taxes and ss are low as fuck because they refuse to finance all the refugees and send them chopping wood in the forrests and building streets if they don't have a job. only downside is that as a german it is hard to understand their jiddish and rents are awefully high

we are full, don't come here. very racist country, you will hate it

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>massive shortage of qualified people
so it is good that i move there as an engineer. why anti german then?

im not a shitskin luckily. im a white man

You eat a lot of raclette?

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it is just like with poles in germany. nobody wants them, but somebody has to clean the toilets or to engeneer shit in your case.

Bunch of welfare slobs in switzerland crying about german doctors taking care of them

>Do swiss people like us germans or not?
swiss germans hate germans, swiss french hate french, swiss italians hate italians. because
1. they dont speak the language with an accent (especially true for swiss germans since the germans are threatening the swiss german culture)
2. we swiss have to compete with qualified workers from all over the world because good wages
3. foreigners keep the wages down because they agree to work for less.
So fuck off Hans we're full!

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how many neet bux you get there?
in austria its about 900 eur minimum

lol 4k net is nothing in switzerland. You'll have to pay:
10k in tax over a year
300/month for health insurance
expensive rent + food + everything.

Not gonna lie, nothing compares to the neet bux in canada. Those welfare sluts over there have every need met by the state. They're free to slut it up until they're old and crusty.

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Won’t have any friends because of your shitty german attitude
Disgustingly self asure and loud
Im sure to be overly rude to all germans

>go to capitalist country
>taxes are low but cost of living is high
>go to socialist country
>cost of living is low but taxes are high

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Im not a swiss german but that's what i've heard from them:
- germans are loud and not polite
- it's cringeworthy when they try to speak swiss german because they invent new words that dont exist.

this is what 900k (chf or usd, same price) buys you in Geneva. a 84m2 (904 sqft) appartment.
home.ch/en/buy/detail/apartment/subcategory-flat/at-Châtelaine/4.0 rooms/2147781830/

The swiss people I know don't seem to use soap or deodorant when they wash up. They always stink like arm pits.

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Lol tf

they have negative interest rates -0.75
while the chf gains value
it just doesnt make any sense

5k is nothing dude
Wouldn't even get up in the morning for that

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niggas I'm talking about crossing the boarder sit on my fat ass while taking your money and then gtfo and spend it where I live.
It's not like anybody wants anything form you but your money.

how are the women btw? I heard they are like 20% albanian by now.

go ahead if you want ot waste time in traffic like a cuck.
>taking your money and then gtfo and spend it where I live
foreigners living in the border and work here are the worst.

i pay more tax and insurance and earn 2k net in germany

redpill me about the women, I heard native swiss women are pretty based farm girls and the mixed womyn are bitches shopping in downtown zurich. das rite?

and how does it work if you have an accident? Do you have to pay something yourself? 300 chf / month is assuming you never get sick. If you do you have to pay the first 2500 chf out of your pocket. For example this year I had to go to the doctor and had to pay 500. Nothing will be refunded if I have less than 2500 of bills.

those living in small villages are far right. those living in cities are lefties.

also the more educated the less far right people vote. Girls who go to uni never vote SVP.

thats basically the same for me as well (3000 or so). I have private insurance for 360/month and not state insurance though. my colleagues (or rather their employee) pay more, around 500.

I am french, swiss, and german.

I would like to move to switzerland and live on the top of a mountain like friedrich nietzsche did, preferably with a little dog.

Can someone plz advise me on how this would be done?

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nigga I also get 3k gross and the % of what you end up with will never get us anywhere at this level. A doctor in austria earning as much as a dish washer in switzerland in terms of purchasing power is just insane.

girls working for 2 weeks at a small oktoberfest like event can earn 15-20k euro in switzerland.

also I have heard swiss people pay one month salary for taxes. lmfao we pay 40-50% just crazy

Is that what they tell you in your liberal echo chambers?

First, "educated" doesn't mean shit. Anything outside of hardcore stem / business doesn't count. Second, the curve in not linear. As a function on increasing "education", it goes conservative (primitive, tribal) -> liberal (more empathy and awareness) -> back to conservative (pragmatic, sees the bigger picture).

t. uneducated ivy league physics phd

Who this

>t. uneducated ivy league physics phd
good to know you're an expert on swiss girl's politicial opinions then

Born and raised in Geneva so if you have any question, feel free to ask

Yes, cost of living here is ridiculously expensive, but it is the only place in continental Europe where you can get similar salaries to usa, the real secret is love in France or Germany and work here, that is the only way you can actually get a high quality of life.

How much do you make in B4 audit in switzerland?

Preferably Manager level

Bullshit, it goes back to conservative with greater wealth, which goes hand in hand with going to an ivy in most cases.

>stinky arm pits

That's because they're not cucked enough to be applying endocrine disrupting, cancer causing chemicals on themselves

I actually gained some respect for the Swiss if they're woke enough to not be using deodorants

Also if you are French, we are full Fuck off.

Are you guys subtle racist towards East Asian?

Go hang out in higer social circles bud. It's the same everywhere. The top of the pyramid is conservative. Europe and US, I would know.

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what nationality you got?

No, they're obviously racist against everyone. Duh

yes I was browsing a bit on jobs.ch and saw there are a lot of finance jobs.
1. is this some high tier shit where 100s of applications go in per job?
2. is there really such a shortage in switzerland that the chance of getting a high tier job with some continental euro degree is easy?
3. how many years do I have to serve if I grow weed and sell it in switzerland?

t. speak german thus would move to german swiss territories

Rent a house in the Valais, it's actually one of the only places with very affordable rent.

I'm from switzerland and have never heard of anything like that, normal wage bartending is around 20USD/hour.
kekd

how do Swiss communicate with each other?
do people know at least 2 languages?

in addition to your language you learn a second one of the country, mandatorily. a third one is optional like latin in 7th grade

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Not that I know of, Geneva Is the most international city in the world, I only met 20 or so people with both parents being Swiss here, so I would say racism isn't big here.

Now, if you go out of Geneva it gets very different very fast. I can imagine people would be slightly racist towards East Asians.

1. Not that I know of.
2. No, not at all these days from what I hear.
3. From what I've seen Switzerland Is on of the greatest place in the world for illegal weed business, first you only get a fine if you have less than 10 gram. Second, you have to be doing something really stupid to get caught for weed, police do not really investigate weed dealers like they would for coke or other and the sentences are extremely light for cannabis. I have a friend that got caught with a kilo of hash and didn't do a day in prison, just if he gets caught again he has problems. In France, that is 2-3 years jail from what I understand.

If I understood the law correctly you can not go to jail more that 3 years for drugs here, but I can't say im 100% sure of this.

We speak in English amongst different parts, the Swiss Germans are advantaged heavily in the country because they learn our language at school (French), but we learn actual German whereas they speak their weird dialects so I dont understand anything at all.

You must master all languages though if you want a high end business job

But yes also if you don't speak at least 3 languages fluently here you are seen as poorly educated.

Switzerland is nice but never, never, never ever go in Ticino for a reason that isn't tourism. That place is cursed

usual street price in central europe is 10€/g for smaller deals
how about CH?

Why not? It is one of the only places in the country I've never and have been planning to go for a while

yeah well I'm german speaking italian citizen who forgot all italian that I learned in school so I wouldn't ever move there lol

20 CHF for shitweed. Local are content with this. Fuck this country seriously

Here it is also about 10chf for good quality Swiss grown, so 9 euros.

In geneva now we have very high quality marroccan hash for 3-5 chf, nowadays it is getting more popular than weed.

Prices change a lot depending what canton you are in.

What part are you from? I have never in my life heard of somebody pay 20 for weed, and we have the best quality I have seen compared to Spain, France, Germany etc

But why is it cursed?

I was in basel and observed a street deal. Couldnt believe my eyes when he paid 20. Buyer looked happy soo i assumed its normal price.

lel at that stereotype bullshit. Even thought most have french or german in school as a second language, most suck at using it.

No he said real money

You think?

I really know few people that cannot speak at least 2 languages, with 3 national languages, with our world class public education system, and the amount of foreigners living here, it makes sense we are good with languages.

Switzerland is a meme country and is not the libertarian aryan utopia everyone thinks it all is.

It's just like any other country in Europe except for the lack of EU membership and the guns. Everything is expensive and it's a frozen hellhole for most of the year.

I gotta ask but I assume that it is the """poorest""" region of Switzerland

you better shill some dreammarket weed to your fellow costumers :)

ok, so that would be around 0,16 xmr

sorry I meant 0,016 xmr

bump

In which swiss stock should i invest? Im holding CS and UBS atm

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You are right it is not libertarian aryan utopia, but it is a based country and especially nice IF:

> You are europoor trying to earn a decent salary to save up shekels

> You are ruling class 50 million + net worth

>100% humidity
>50 Celsius degrees
>99% of the population are slave pajeets fighting each other in a rat race for 3/400 dollars
>have to deal constantly with low iq sub-humans
>food and drink quality and hygiene are a total disaster
>you will end up wasting your money on an expensive cars, traffic fines, constant stress cause everyone try to scam you or sell you something
>nothing to do but touristic attractions
>paradise only if you are a local or a millionaire criminal trying to avoid extradition
NO FUCKING THANKS
ENOUGH OF THIS SHIT

There are many other places where you can make good money, but also live a pretty decent life.

Pro tip: choose a country with a very high average IQ.

how much is left after paying for taxes, utilities, food, fuel, rent etc

What is salary/life like there?

So he makes less than $50k/year after taxes? You can't even afford to rent an apartment in most cities in the US on that salary.

fuck off we are full

I’m from ticino and I have to agree
Boring as hell here

>girls working for 2 weeks at a small oktoberfest like event can earn 15-20k euro in switzerland.
lol use your brain a little bit. If you meant 15-20 euro / hour then yes.
>also I have heard swiss people pay one month salary for taxes. lmfao we pay 40-50% just crazy
1 month maybe for those who earn very little. It's usually 2 months for most people.
>a physics PhD trying to school someone well-versed on political philosophies. all of my keks @ those stem fags who think they know it all.
Liberal in Europe in the political spectrum = those who want less regulations and less state, nothing to do with empathy and awareness. Also people who went to uni dont vote for far right parties here.

That is poverty tier here as well, Switzerland is much more expensive than usa. Even Cali or NYC

>5k
>no skills
I doubt it.

t. work for SBB

depends on area

So some estimate for single person

>80k gross
>11k taxes
>4k healthcare insurance
>7k food
>18k rent
>8k car/4k if train
>4k apartement/cleaning/cloths
>2k entertaiment (can vary a lot)
so about 26k

That is poverty tier here as well, Switzerland is much more expensive than usa. Even Cali or NYC.

But if he crosses the border everyday to live in Germany he will live like a king. That is the salary of a doctor.

For long term hold now it's time to buy UBS. Ditch CS it's just a pump and dump. Instead go into Nestlé and ABB.

>4k a month
>In Switzerland
That is like making $15 an hour in America

And then going to live in Mexico like a king.

The whole point is he crosses the border daily to Germany, where that is the salary of a doctor.

that's what a well-managed company looks like

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bubble

Is 50k really a lot of money in Germany? I've looked at European real estate, and only Southern Europe is significantly less expensive than America.

Yeah I wouldnt buy now. Wait for the correction.
i thought it was a meme but no.. In Switzerland the poorest doctors earn 100-150k and specialists 200-500k. The best can go to 1mil.

I dont think you know how much drunk people tip to hot girls

No. I would say eastern asians are the least targeted when it comes to racism because they have the reputation of being respectful and non-violent. Unlike the Albanians who are low IQ violent apes.

The median is around 6.5k nowadays

>80k a year
Isn't that is a pretty modest lifestyle? What would be the rent (and price) for a two bedroom flat in a Swiss city? I visited back in December. The country is beautiful, but the prices for consumer goods/restaurants are insane.

Albanians are based and redpilled with traditional values.

Enjoy your asian slut wife cuck.

Yes, just look at there salaries, then factor in how much taxes they pay.

Switzerland is the only place in Europe, with Norway maybe, where you can get American level salaries. We have much higher cost of living though, but much better welfare and education system though.