Why the hell aren't you buying gold and silver for the upcoming crash?

>excuse me sir can I have that can of beans I'm starving. Wait dont go, I have gold to trade! Let me just shave off a little piece here...ok that should be around $2. Do we have a deal sir?

>Sure, but I'l need that whole bar for this here can. Food isnt easy to come by in the apocalypse.

>but but that's ridiculous! I'd rather die than be ripped off like this!

>dies

>blah blah global war

No war is coming for 1st world nations. And even if there was, the US has the most advanced agricultural and shale technology in the world. Not to mention thousands upon thousands of acres of farmland. Not to mention the largest and most advanced military in history.

Assuming most of you are from the States, we aren't going hungry any time soon; war or no war.

I'm up to 23 ounces of gold and about 250 of silver. Am I going to make it?

can someone explain like am a downsymdroned 5 year old how the inverted yield leads to catastrophe.

>the US has the most advanced agricultural and shale technology in the world
the demographics coming down the pipe in a couple years will change all that.
america is going to turn into lebanon + brazil
the GDP collapse caused by boomers aging out and selling their assets to fund their long term health care is going to be epic.

Makes it easy to pay off my house if money is free

>Demographics
Elaborate plz. Can't argue with Boomer selloffs. Long senior healthcare.

Because I'm not a boomer about to retire. I'm going to buy the dip

BTC is the new gold, fuck off boomer.
The great bull run will be triggered by the upcoming financial collapse.

I wouldn't accept gold in a real life SHTF situation.

You retards fail to understand that gold is a hedge, not an investment
fpbp

whites are set to become the minority in america by 2050.
i know people think this is Jow Forums level stuff but as the nation fractures more by race sexuality etc and no longer has a common core holding it together where the most industrious and innovative so far aka the whites will be the minority, it wont work out well for the countries development.

The people being imported in record numbers overwhemly vote for left,socialistic policies,
these policies will lead to cronyism and a devaluation in living standards. The lowering of living standards will create this socialistic hellscape spiral where they will try to sure up the financial picture of debt by importing even more people.

I migrated from such a country and i see the same people coming here in record numbers, basically recreating the country i tried to escape from so im very negative on the future of america and the western europe.

other than eastern europe and asia im net short on the entire western hemisphere.
..fyi im not white

there is a reason why the future of dystopia is always some multi cultural help scape, not because people are of different races, SPECIALLY because the power that be will use that diversity to make people hate each other while not focusing on the needs and prospect of the country while they get rich via crony deals.

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SHIT IS NOT GOING TO HIT THE FAN
why do people keep thinking its going to be madmax world if the economy collapses.
when the argentinian economy collapsed people didnt go about turning into cannibals.
even in fucking zimbabwe when the economy collapsed due to president monkeys stupid policies, people didnt riot.
They just got poorer,turned to the drugs
but all the basic stuff while degraded still survived.

>why do people keep thinking its going to be madmax world if the economy collapses.

It won't be madmax. It will be like Venezuela. Crypto went up, and nobody cares about gold. Ammo was worth more because more people wanted it. You could trade gold, sure, but at exorbitant prices at a loss for food. People preferred ammo for hunting and protection.

>even in fucking zimbabwe when the economy collapsed due to president monkeys stupid policies, people didnt riot.

Yes they did, and they did turn to cannibalism. Read up on history maybe.

>You retards fail to understand that gold is a hedge, not an investment
precisely why I would never have a position in it - gold simply stores value, I would rather either spend in the now rather than later or invest in means of production which grow wealth and give me more to spend in the future

stocks and crypto are also a hedge against inflation but have a high probability to grow into something of more value than a shiny rock

Since you got dubs I'll try to explain. A bond has a "face value", and whoever holds it gets paid interest based on that face value, but a bond can trade below or above that value, so the "yield" is how much interest the bond pays based on current market value, rather than face value. So when the PRICE of a bond goes up, the YIELD goes down, since you are paying more for the right to that interest. When short term yields rise and long term yields fall, this means people are BUYING the long term bonds (which are less risky) and SELLING the short term bonds. Generally speaking, it's the obscenely wealthy globalists who play in the bond market, and they are know as the "bond vigilantes". The yield curve inversion is simply a sign that the richest institutions in the world see risk on the horizon and are moving capital into the least risky interest bearing asset, the 10yr US treasury

Basically the problem with gold was the counterfeit problem. Not many people can verify it's really gold, or really that pure.

But you can verify a bullet or a can of beans, or some healthy looking seeds. Bullets were in much higher demand than gold or silver. Food and medicine came after that. Of course water was at the top.

I think gold and silver were at the bottom of people's lists. Even hygiene supplies were more sought after.

Gold was probably in the same category as car supplies. Important to the wealthiest of the apocalypse, but not interesting to those who didn't at least own a car or more.

im saying if the economy collapses you wont be trading bullets since theyred be no need to.
bullets and cans of beans are only necessary for extremely shit like an actual apocalyptic event.

look up all economic crisis, some people riot but its essentially the same everyone just ends up poorer, the smart ones ended up richer, they did so by buying foreign dividend yielding stocks.
give me a scenario where a country has economically collapsed and they have turned into absolute chaos.
venezuela?

i guess you could store food, but venezuela issue is caused by a shitty government, when the gov is gone things will improve.
but those things gradually got worse and worse. youll see a maduro or chavez long in advance to prepare.

what i expect is a argentina style crisis where the dollar devalues like 50% over night and thats pretty much the extent of it.
yeah yeah they will be people going hungry,
yeah yeah some people will riot
yeah yeah but AT&T amd netflix will still be around

listen if you really want to prepare for that read up on the fall of the USSR and people got rich then.
best thing to do will be to buy oxy and lifter drugs like extasy and sell to people,because those people will be so depressed and out of it since jobs wont be coming back or the thots realize theyll have to suck alot more dick to live the lifestyle they want.

good luck buying food and water with your free moneyt

lol.

could some explain a goldlet where is the best place to buy

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The war is already here. All of the west is under active invasion, and informational, demographic and spiritual warfare is being waged upon us by foreign powers 24/7.

We are at war and most people don't even realize it. Crazy fucking times.

The most expensive military yes, but the effectivenes is overstated. China made anti ship rockets at a fraction of what the almighty power projection aircraft carriers cost.

Also when the underground water reserves being built up in 1000's of years run out (and they will eventually) you can kiss that fertile farmland goodbye without intensive irrigation.

>fyi im not white

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>It won't be madmax. It will be like Venezuela. Crypto went up, and nobody cares about gold. Ammo was worth more because more people wanted it. You could trade gold, sure, but at exorbitant prices at a loss for food. People preferred ammo for hunting and protection
Bullshit. Silver as a mean of payment was and is king in Venezuela for example.

pic related is a better investment if the global market goes tits up

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>Predicts there is a crash
>Implies he knows more than teams of experts with access to more resources and data than he has
>Doesn't return back to respond to anything.

larp/10

Is that the military that got BTFO by girls wearing pyjamas?

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Toddler tier explanation

>gov borrows money from the market through bonds
>bonds carry interest
>normally, longer term loans yield the highest interest
>when the government is desperate for money, they offer higher interest for shorter term loans
>this is the best indicator for a recession
>flattening means an economic pullback as investors are trying to protect their wealth by selling stocks and buying bonds, flooding the bond market with money and lowering the offered interest
>inversion means collapse
>investors are no longer sure gov will pay back their loans instead of hyperinflating their unpayable debt away
>nobody sane buys bonds anymore
>short term interest rates skyrocket, but nobody sane buys bonds at this point
>smart money looks for safe havens instead

An inversion of the yield curve means the dollar is dead but doesn't know it yet.

gold mining stocks do great during deflation....look what gold mining stocks did all through the great depression

If everyone is positioned for a crash then it probably won't happen

what can i do with my 401k (mostly in domestic index funds)? can i sell this to fiat without penalty inside my 401k (not cashing out of the account)?

I sold all my gold and silver for Link.

Fiat? Maybe theres a money market option

would i be deluded to cash out & take the penalty (like 35-45% penalty on ~45k) to snatch up 3-7 btc?

>gold mining stocks
i keep telling this faggots,but theyre obsessed with shinny coins

sold all gold and silver for crypto. if the market collapses and we go back to gold and silver, you'll be long dead as some "urban gentlemen" would have raided your house and raped you to death

fallout fantasy incels & crypto shills get out

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Yes that'd be retarded. If there's a massive collapse event, you have other things to worry about than a now worthless 45k. If the event is recoverable, then there's no reason to sell.

If indexes ever go to zero, then we're doomed anyway.

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