You're 30+

If you have a good career and if you're actually skilled and are not just living by "fake it till you make" it like 80% of the plebs, take a year off and do whatever the fuck you wanna do.

Your mind will be so rotten from all the wagecucking that you will need to set a clean travel schedule so you won't go crazy not living my the clock, but at least it will help you get out of your house and actually do things.

If you still feel the same after one year of freedom, it's over.

good luck user

This.

I'm 31 and somewhat in the same boat as OP but I've travelled extensively, found someone that loves me, I look really young for my age, healthy and physically fit, job is just OK, I spend way too much time online, but I'm convinced happiness is largely irrelevant to external circumstances, like, it comes from within, or something gay like that. I'm no more or less miserable than I've ever been.

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First of all, why would you ask for help here? Consider a counselor.

It is okay to have PC hobbies, personally, I became too bored with NPC games like WoW over ten years ago, and League only held my attention because of RL friends who I enjoyed dicking around with.

You need to find a group to grill your stupid ass and keep you accountable, martial arts, biking, literally any creative or physical pursuit where you can connect with a real world community of real people. You are holding on to very silly beliefs about yours life and life in general - there is nothing to catch up to, all humans regardless of income or status share a common fate in mortality.

If you allow your mindset, opinions and outlook to be formed by an echo chamber of underage, NEET's, mentally ill, caustic toxic bitches, then what do you expect? Is it really that hard to grasp how much the environments you steep yourself in effect you?

Have you ever done anything charitable? Do you take basic physical care of yourself(I'm not talking about lifting, I mean taking a few walks a day, positive self care, healthy nutrition, valuing the natural relationships you have with family).

>If you have a good career and if you're actually skilled

Yea I think my OP made it pretty clear that that is NOT the case, user.

>I'm 31 and somewhat in the same boat as OP but I've travelled extensively, found someone that loves me, I look really young for my age, healthy and physically fit, job is just OK, I spend way too much time online, but I'm convinced happiness is largely irrelevant to external circumstances, like, it comes from within, or something gay like that. I'm no more or less miserable than I've ever been.

>I'm no more or less miserable than I've ever been

That's not to say you wouldn't be in a much worse state (psych/mood etc) if all those good things you mentioned had NOT taken place. You would experience a number of new anxieties about where you life is that you don't have, and have never had (by the sound of it).

Men peak in their 30's and girls tend to like older men.

best years are ahead boys. Don't give up.

Yes but I've been an unemployed bum before and my happiness level now is definitely higher but not as much as I thought it would be, of course external circumstances matter, I wouldnt want to get trapped in a cage getting ass raped by a pitchfork on a daily basis, im just saying external circumstances matter to a less degree than most normies think

Im a 34 year old boomer. In my 20s I did
>trave all over the world
>live in 3 different countries longterm-ish
>fuck dozens of girls
>tried tons of different drugs
>built an online business
eventually I realized its all a meme. Now Im back to shitposting on 4chins all day.

>Is it really that hard to grasp how much the environments you steep yourself in effect you?

I am a BIG believer in this and actually have a few times undergone a total transformation by excluding myself from certain influences and communities and exposing myself intentionally to others. In my early/mid 20's I had some seriously harmful ideas about socialising/girls etc which I had to rid myself of and I largely did so by intentionally exposing myself to contrary ideas/people and brainwashing myself.

If you're referring to /biz, I don't really come here that much but I like to keep an eye on crypto as I'm quite heavily invested.

>Have you ever done anything charitable?

In my own way, sure, routinely. Not mainstream charity stuff, not my bag.

>Do you take basic physical care of yourself

Yea I do a lot of exercise, too much in the past but most of my hobbies are exertions. I eat well. I try my best to have healthy human relationships but that's one of the main things I struggle with and am only slowly improving at. I mean, I'm totally different to how I was ten years ago but still at nearly 33 I'm like a confident 18 year old or something.

>Men peak in their 30's and girls tend to like older men.

Sadly total fucking cope. The "girls like older men" meme is grossly misused, anyone getting into their 30s and expecting to get young girls (i.e. not just +/- a few years) is going to be extremely disappointed.

I have fucked 140 girls in the last five years, that's one thing I've managed to catch up with through quite intense effort.

>Im a 34 year old boomer. In my 20s I did
>>trave all over the world
>>live in 3 different countries longterm-ish
>>fuck dozens of girls
>>tried tons of different drugs
>>built an online business
>eventually I realized its all a meme. Now Im back to shitposting on 4chins all day.

I'm with you, mate - but you have to go through that, still! Yes it's all bullshit and you always "come back home" etc, but that's not the same as never doing it in the first place!

"Yea don't go and fuck loads of women, really I just want my wife anyway now." etc

But if you hadn't have fucked them all, you prob wouldn't/couldn't settle with your wife.

This is the frustration of it, normies who have had normal lives always say it "wasn't that good" and tell us autisms not to bother in the first place, but going through the process is crucial to our development and if you skip it all then you end up totally fucked.

"Ah no one cares about your school grades later on, anyway - just your work experience. So don't bother going to school."

What a exhausting sad existence.

Having meaningless sex with a new girl every week. Not that i believe you or anything that comes out of ur shit mouth.

I'm talking about a good RL career, not an "Jow Forums good career", i.e. 300k/yeah with the age of 25.

You said you're well off financially, so you probably won't flip buns at McD's. You can literally travel a whole year with 25k USD. 2k/month will be enough in 95% of places on earth. Even in Europe you can live and get around off that easily.

25k for one year of freedom is a small price to pay not to blow one's brain out imo

Go outside neet. This nigger living in a delusional fantasy world.

300k/year is a top 0.1% job

>What a exhausting sad existence.
>Having meaningless sex with a new girl every week.

Yes and as you can tell from the OP I'm totally happy with this and not at all just desperately trying in vain to make up for crucial missed social experiences in my teens and 20's.

I'm not in the same boat as I did everything in the green text and am slightly younger (29), but if you want a fuck ton of roasties like I and many other fkn autistic gentlemen did just make getting them your sole passion, guarantee you'll be just as happy drowning in poon as now though. Find Saul Tee for the how, he's an Ausfag from Sydney, gl user

You need to talk to a counselor/therapist/life coach, this isn't a substitute

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it's fucked, but you have to try catch up. Doesn't really matter if you're 33, 43, or 23, you feel like you're behind, regardless. Everyone does.

>140 girls
You got meme'd by insecure "red pilled pick up artists" and have obliterated your ability to create a meaningful bond with a valuable partner, while simultaneously contributing to the dilution of the modern relationship.

I know two girls IRL married to men 20+ years older, btw. It is not only a time tested reality, but also a reaction to girls getting used by faggots like you who have somehow equivocated being whores to a measure of life quality or personal value. You meme'd yourself hard, faggot. You are as impressionable and used up as the whores who you think you're "playing"

speak for yourself. when i was 20 - 25 i was drinking and getting stoned with friends. Ahen i was 25 - 28 i was an otr truck driver and got to visit almost every state. but then 08 hit and i got hit by the recession.

still pathetic as Fuck though because in 35 years ive only actually had sex once. the rest of my sexual encounters was just blow jobs.

but yea. thats why waging doesn't make sense. you don't realize how short life is until its half over.

Why is sex so important to you fags??
>omgggg if I don't put my peepee inside a vagene I'm going to die
Fucking morons.

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>You have obliterated your ability to create a meaningful bond with a valuable partner, while simultaneously contributing to the dilution of the modern relationship. You who have somehow equivocated being whores to a measure of life quality or personal value. You meme'd yourself hard, faggot. You are as impressionable and used up as the whores who you think you're "playing"

> Speaking so aggressively to me as if I'm not fully aware of this already, probably moreso than he can ever understand himself.

>I know two girls IRL married to men 20+ years older, btw.

> Thinking this has any kind of statistical relevance whatsoever. I know a guy in his 60's with a 27yo wife, yea. I also know a girl who's 6ft3 and a cat with five legs.

>speak for yourself.

I don't understand, you seem to be just as fucked as I am...?

Jokes on you OP. I did all that shit.

One day you'll realize how miserable "functional" people actually are, they're waking up to a job they hate, eat like shit, do not exercise, do not read, don't care about their political freedoms, don't care about their history or the meaning behind occasions and they get in bed with people they despise. Why do you want to catch up to that? Just live your life.

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> people just as fucked as me

> people just as fucked as me but clinging to lottery-win hopes of "making it" when they're incredibly old and rotten and physically incapable of experiencing young people's things anyway

> normans who can't tell they are

>One day you'll realize how miserable "functional" people actually are, they're waking up to a job they hate, eat like shit, do not exercise, do not read, don't care about their political freedoms, don't care about their history or the meaning behind occasions and they get in bed with people they despise. Why do you want to catch up to that? Just live your life.

> describing an unpleasant situation no one aspires to and then asking why I aspire to that

well you seemingly do. wdym with "progress in a career" or "getting girls"? both ways you'll betray what you actually want and the only people who push you towards such a path are pieces of shit. just live your life

>moreso than he can ever understand
so you also have the emotional maturity of a teenager, aside from being a complete faggot - like I said, you're just an insecure boy

What do you want, CAPSNIGGER?
If you want self pity, go to r9k or start cutting yourself like some emo. You're no longer 20 and shouldn't need people to tell you what to do with your life. Get a therapist or waste your money on some self-improvment courses.

You just described me perfectly but I'm happy and I believe that's what counts

I'm 33 and bald. I love my shaved head but I'm lazy about shaving it so I'm the man who always has a hat on
I "wasted" a little more than my 20s
I dont want to travel. I'm a cripple and like having good hospitals and health insurance. I prefer to look at the same stuff online
I'm not a virgin but I have erectile dysfunction and verified incredibly low test nowadays
I didn't do anything other than make money
I have nonhobbies other than automobiles
Yes a lot of health problems. Autism, multiple traumatic brain injuries, I was in a bad accident so I'm a cripple who cant run/jump/squat or stand too long but j can walk. I have heart disease, heart failure, and have had a heart attack. I have no memory but that allows me to rewatch the same movies and shows repeatedly
I've also got prosopagnosia so I dont even recognize people and I come off as rude because idk who anyone is or their name when they recognize me. Years ago before I moved people would recognize me and say like hey Adam what's up and I'd just draw a blank
I moved and abandoned all my "friends" many years ago. I just didn't enjoy spending time with them. It felt like wasting time. They all smoked weed. They come with obligations and I've been used by most friends
I dont ever want children

Despite all of this I'm very happy. In fact this is the best time of my life. I had a bad childhood, was on probation with a curfew my whole teenage years, spent 18-mid 20s in and out of jail/probation/prison.
Nowadays I'm completely free. I dont use any drugs. I have money. I eat good.
I'd like to find some hobbies that I enjoy other than cars bikes boats

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i mean. i think i enjoyed my 20s a bit more than you did but we are both pretty fucked.

>this is the best time of my life. I had a bad childhood
IKTF brother. Also, cars are a proper hobby, just keep going into that, maybe eventually expand to buying shitboxes at junkyards and making them into sleepers

NO NO NO NO THAT'S MY LIFE I'M TURNING 30 IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO

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i'm in a worse state and i'm 40. no memeing, i plan to kill myself when things become unbearable. give it a year, 2 max.

Fucking idiots posting demoralizing threads. Listen anons, you'll be just fine. Travel is a meme, group orgies is a meme, having a home is a meme. The way you live is the way you live, perhaps you can change it in 20 years' time but don't stress out about it, just stay calm and keep working.

Sitting in front of a computer was what got me a job where I basically do fuckall and can afford to live by myself in exchange, so I wouldn't count it as a waste in the long term. As far as grills go, I look like I'm 17 even though I'm 26, so most girls don't want me, and the few that do I end up ignoring because of my non-existent self-esteem. But this can be solved with just a few therapist visits, which I can now afford thanks to my job that I got through "wasting" my time with computers during my early 20's

Things being a meme is a meme, generalizations are sheep politics

lol, I'm 19, are there really people twice my age on this website? This website is for kids, what are you old farts still doing here? If I'm still here when I turn 25 I will just kill myself because it means I'm a failure in life.

you'll be here when you're 30+

It's the one thing society judges you on in the end. If you ever become the world's richest man, all they'll ever say is "Well, where's Mrs. [your last name here]?" It's also your duty as an organism to reproduce, so if you fail to do that then you fail at life no matter how successful you are in other areas.

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yet, with all these "opportunities" afforded to you to "get a girl" like you "got a job sitting on a computer", here you still sit today on a computer not doing it...because being on a computer "got you a job"

wew i did the opposite of all those

t. ex poker player who spent 9 years travelling the world playing mid stakes, doing drugs, and fucking bitches. my 20s were godlike. im writing a short story about them

why are you making this thread? Why are you trying to bring people down into the shit faggot?

>If I'm still here when I turn 25 I will just kill myself because it means I'm a failure in life
I'll need to remember to be here in six years with a rope just for you ready to go.

While you're right and this site did start out as a place for 2000's weebs to fuck around in, this site has channel-shifted (pun intended) to just be a place for the refuse of society or other online communities. But on this site you'll find reality and honesty, though you might have to dig for it. One day you'll mess up and it'll lead to further mess ups. If your friends are fake friends (which is common for normies), they'll leave you since you're no longer bringing value to them. Your girlfriend will leave you. You'll turn to advice to your usual social networks, only to suddenly find all the people on there unrelatable since they're all feigning success to gain e-peen (upvotes on Reddit, likes on Facebook/Insta, etc.). Then you'll remember about this place and how it's full of other people that messed up and after just a short while you'll find yourself on here more and more.

>career
wagecuck cope

>travel
I did it, was a gay waste of time/money would not reccomend

>fucking thots
it's overrated trust

do whatever you want faggot OP
stop being so self critical and just enjoy life

I remember thinking that too when I was your age, all those years ago

Don't forget, you're here forever

I had the exact same attitude as you at 19 browsing Jow Forums and Jow Forums. Now I turn 25 in a few days.

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i started coming here aged 28. now 40.

but i did user, i did
i spent all my 2017 gains touring around music festivals and raw-dogging gorgeous sluts
definitely got a uti but worth it

You can't simply stop browsing Jow Forums, there are no alternatives. Even complete normalfags browse this site.

How do you get to ~27 without actually doing something about that? I lived my late teens and early 20s like that but at some point the boredom, dread, and shame became unbearable. Then I decided to go to uni, started reading, got a creative hobby, and now have a decent job.
It's probably not too late for you to do the same thing though.

>all my 2017 gains

kek, I planned a rather good 2018 with my gf but then just kind of forgot to cash out, then panic-traded myself down from good 6 figs to literally zero. Gf left me, quite rightly.

kek

How are you happy when your life is seemingly worse off compared to others? Just genuinely curious. Otherwise, glad youre doing good man. Sounds like you've been through a lot.

>just kind of forgot to cash out
no worries user, Jesus will come to visit you and end your suffering

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If he’s content with what he has in life than that makes him happier than the vast majority of people right there

OP I am also early thirties and not much better position than you, if at all, but I am positive about the financial opportunities in the future at least. The next crypto bull run should get most of us to financial freedom, especially if there is enough time to accumulate.

I agree with you on the relationship side though. I have paid for many prostitutes and I fear I have destroyed my ability to pair bond. Also being alone too long can embed a siege mentality, which makes it harder to connect to other people in general.

Damn are you literally me?

Yea I am going to be OK for money, I'm very lucky in that I have a basic passive income + about $100,000 in crypto right now. I believe I will be independently financially independent one day.

My issues are all social:

> shit at meeting girls
> scare people off
> player reputation despite being the opposite
> can only fuck 2's
> don't understand how to have friends
> no career/place/allies/fake-purpose etc
> brain which needs constant stimulation but no way into interesting lines of work

etc

Very unsatisfying on a "spiritual" kind of level.

>How do you get to ~27 without actually doing something about that?

There is a particular reason for it but I was essentially "asleep" until a pivotal moment/change at age 28. Something similar happened last summer, another big step in waking up. I feel like I've only just now arrived in this world.

You shouldn't compare yourself to others.
Think about it though, I'm alive and free. And this is the best I've ever had it. I'm incredibly comfortable and have no stress. I can afford pretty much whatever I want within reason. I can do whatever I want.
I dont live in a literal cage anymore and I never will again.
The only thing that sucks is being crippled and my health problems but nothing can be done about that.
I really almost died in that accident. I got hit by a semi truck on my motorcycle. I was rushed to the nearest ICU trauma center to have emergency surgery. I couldn't walk for months. It seemed like I'd never walk again. Then I used euro armbrace crutches for months.
But now I walk and I'm still alive!

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I don’t think this situation is common, but it’s becoming increasingly frequent. I’m only regretful because I want to be a father, but those hopes are fading.

I did all of those things you didn't and did them excessively. I traveled the whole world, slept with tons of women, I have a high paying career and I even stayed fit and look much younger than I am. It doesn't matter. Life sucks when you're old. Anyone who says otherwise is coping. My life looks awesome by almost every metric (career, women, friends, parties, exotic vacations) but in reality I'm tired and bored all the time. Life is a scam.

that's literally what I was saying you imbecile

I travelled and fucked 100+ roasties when I was young and good looking.
I'm 30 now and I wish I had focused on business and be retired by now.
I will be retired by 40 at current rate, maybe earlier or later, but my 30s will be shit.

At least my 20s were awesome, and my 40s+ will be as well, assuming I dont get sick and die.

The spiritual side is mainly lack of belonging and having to catch up.
At our age, its probably best to just increase acquaintances through mutual interests as it takes so long to build genuine relationships.even if you had a career, most ‘friends’ start ditching guys like us who are still single In 30’s. There’s not much I can say to help, other than were all here together.

I'm 29 and I'm trying to look older for my age, not younger. How fucking sad are you losers if you're longing for youth instead of respect? I hated my 20s because I spent it partying and fucking around instead of focused on my career and saving money. I did all the "fun" shit and now it just makes me cringe. I'm not proud of myself or who I was in college or when I was 22's-27. I'm proud of who I am now. I go to bed wishing I did a 2 hour workout instead of a 1 hour workout because I feel guilty for not being more exhausted.

Good man, finally someone who did things right and realises it.

30's should still be fun if you get the balance between business and continued socialising. The socialising in your 20's will even help you.

I hustled online all through my 20s faggot, just cause you played games like a retard doesnt mean its a wasted time

>just cause you played games like a retard

No games, just forums mostly.

Should have made your own forums if you enjoyed it

Join the FFL and enjoy a few years of hard labor and possibly slotting skinnies.

top just

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I'm just like the OP, except I don't even have money. I don't feel like I've missed out on anything considering I was a fat slob in my 20s who dressed terrible, had bad hygiene, depressed, emotional, less self-aware, and more dumb.

All I need to do is get a job, move out from home, and I've made up for "time lost". Never had an inclination to drink and get drunk, to fuck random women, or to hang out with most people. Socializing for most people is often simply huddling around a table smoking weed, drinking, playing cards, and talking. Or maybe going out to eat or hanging out on the beach.

Over the years I've learned to not rely on other people for my happiness, but rather realized it's all about how I perceive the world and my thinking patterns. More goods will not make me happier, neither will surrounding myself with people who may or may not be depressed, emotional, lack self-awareness, and dumb. Only thing I regret in life is not starting my own business, which I'm not late on.

That's not what I did at all. I partied 90% of the time in my 20s, and worked 10% of the time on my biz. I got lucky on a biz and made easy money that allowed me to do is.

Now I'm 30 and I work 100% of the time. I don't believe in balance. Balance is the normie way. It's a sure way to not make it in business.

I will stop working when I'm retired.

I'd rather be a retired kissless virgin now than my current situation.

work out and eat healthy faggot, young girls dig young chads in their early 30s.

I did progress a career and travel a lot, wtf are you talking about?

>Only thing I regret in life is not starting my own business, which I'm not late on.
That is incorrect my friend. I started my first biz at 18, and now 30. It was incredibly more easy back when I was young. The only reason I can compete with young entrepreneurs now is my 12 years of experience at running businesses. Business is the most competitive thing in the world, and young people are better at it then old people.

If you've never ran a biz at 30, you never will. Entrepreneurs are born, not made.

You seem like a good person to hang out with

Thanks for info man and glad you're doing good

Just jump in front of a morning commuters train and give those wagies one hour late to the job as a good bye fuck-you-all

90% of my friends in their 30s are bald, fat, or manlets, which there is nothing they can do about since they have to wagecuck and don't have time to fight their aging bodies.

If you are a chad in your 30s, you are the 0.0001%, simply not accessible to most.

>That is incorrect my friend. I started my first biz at 18, and now 30. It was incredibly more easy back when I was young. The only reason I can compete with young entrepreneurs now is my 12 years of experience at running businesses. Business is the most competitive thing in the world, and young people are better at it then old people.
>If you've never ran a biz at 30, you never will. Entrepreneurs are born, not made.

Got to agree with this. Business/finance is THE ultimate arena of competition, oldies can continue in it if they started young and were very good, but there's no way they can start from scratch.

Girls like men who are a couple of years older than them not a decade older. If you seriously believe you will be banging hot 22 year olds nonstop when you are in your 30s then you are retarded.

>If you've never ran a biz at 30, you never will. Entrepreneurs are born, not made.
I don't subscribe to this defeatist mindset. I'd try even if 99 people disagree that I should. I'm not looking to launch the next Microsoft, I simply don't want to work for anyone else.

>I simply don't want to work for anyone else.
Business is so difficult that simply wanting it is not enough.

I would rather die or be homeless than work for another man. I've felt that way since I was 18.

Just my opinion, but everyone I know "doesn't want to work for someone else", yet all of them do.

you and me both brother

>

Same situation here basically. Approaching 30, only saving grace is that I still look like a teenager.

lol I got meme'd too, fucked 100 women in my 20's now early 30s with a good girl who loves me and cooks/cleans/smart, and all I can think about is fucking whores, I JUST WANT TO LOVE HER GOD DAMN IT

>why is the most important biological process important to you fags

incel COPE

>taking advice from a boomer
Fuck off gramps