Are non-virgin women a good business investment?

studies? how was this studied? kek. you mean they asked women if they cheated on their husbands, and the ones who try hardest to look proper in other areas of their life (bible bitches) say they didn't? must be true then huh.

There are higher percentage of loyal girls, even in today's society, than you would imagine, if you are a high value male. And that is a big IF.

If youre alpha she wont care about other dudes. Women just want the most superior man they dont care about “variety”

The percentage of divorce related to amount of pre marriage partners.

0 partners have like 90% success rate.

10+ partners was like 40% success rate.

I don't have the image, but I'm sure someone here will post it.

it does sound nice. I would never go for it if I was her though. neither would you. that's why you haven't found one that does...cause their aren't any. we're living in the 21st century. only religious nuts are following this kind of lifestyle...and they are fucking psycho. no way I'd ever under any circumstances marry somethign like that.

Based and redpilled

>tfw have gf of 3 years
>she wants to get married
>i dont because no hymen no diamond
What do I do in this situation?

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Cope harder, until you have a bitch that comes back and sucks you off even after you ignore her and beat her then you'll know.

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They do exist but theyre usually shy and 18 years old

Trust me if you are a high enough value male these girls are everywhere and begging for high social value male cock to marry with.

You are just not high value enough.

Think multimillionaire world class athlete.

You really think he will have a hard time finding a loyal virgin wife?

Is there a better quality picture. I can't read the charts on the left.

Yes

That is a crazy in love bitch, not a loyal bitch.

Low self esteem and poor moral values = She will cheat on you if you let your guard down

they're only 18 years old for a while though....do you get it? as they start to experience life, they want to experience more of life. top kek. this is exactly the kind of girl you need to watch out for.
the other user is right about wholesome value chicks who have high self esteem. they are like diamonds if that's what you're after. I'm not though personally. religion is poison imo.

you're not making sense anymore dude. chicks who are after high social value male cock are the type to cheat on you.
high social value doesn't mean much to the wholesome girls who just want to raise a christian family. those are the only exception I'll make for the first post I made. other than that type of girl....you're not going to find anyone who will stay a virgin for you and then only be with you forever.

You don't get it. Just cope'ing

no I think it's the other way around. you guys who are trying to tell me that there are so many girls out there who just want to be with one guy and save their virginity until marriage....how the fuck would you know? you don't. all you know is they aren't fucking you, but you don't know whether or not she's fucking me.

High social value of the guy they are in relationship with is what all women are after. All.

so don't be surprised if someone else with a higher social value ends up getting his dick sucked by your wife then. kek.

All girls are after high social male value cock instinctively.

You should learn more about evolutionary psychology and how it relates to the modern world. You will have a much better understanding and why most women and men have miserable relationships in the modern world

You don't take a lot of parameters into account, possibly only the ones that you'd consider for yourself - projecting.

Mate stop trying to act like you are the only person that gets girls in the world. The whole were all neets thing is a meme.

You really do sound cringingly bluepilled, you should learn more.

My plan is to just date multiple women, that way I cant get cucked

I dont know. My current gf had a partner before me, she was my first tho.
I always wanted someone who also was a virgin, someone to grow close to and share every sexual experience with. But its close to impossible to find someome like this around your age if you are 20+.
Im quite happy with my current gf, but Im also fucking disgusted by the idea that someone else already had his dick inside her... Or if she kisses me happily I sometimes start to imagine how she kissed another guy like that, and that I am just "the second one" for her...
I dont think I can ever marry her without any regret

what about that gf that wants to marry? or do you plan to do it behind her back?

It's purely pragmatic. High social value conveys real benefits outside of eco biology, mostly if the high social value is captured in a binding relationship. Sex is just a consolation prize for women

ok, but this just reinforced what I've been saying and makes it harder to believe what you so desperately want to believe. women fuck other people too! nobody wants to be with the same person all the time for the rest of their life.
Nobody is going to offer highest social status for a lifetime.

You are saying woman want the be with the most cool friend possible, so they can be the coolest possible. And sex is a bonus.

Not sure I understood correctly?

Sex isn't the same as a relationship

Don't have to believe, it's proven to be correct. Virgins stay loyal. Keep projecting

Sex is a tool too powerful to waste it on pure pleasure - if your a woman. This is what women who have everything do, and only them

All culturea from tribal africa to christian europe to the far east all consider female virginity to be very much tied to her worth as potential mother

Mate, we are just giving you facts here.

Even listen to your own animal instincts they will confirm the facts.

Now if you prefer to listen to mainstream media feminist propaganda that tells you women should have many partners and cheating on their husband is good for them, go ahead. Your wife will secretly hate you for it.

>2k19
>interacting with women
Sounds like you want to get JUST'd

Exactly.

Even amongst the group of friends I grew up with in my town, as soon as puberty kicked in, we all obsessed over virginity. Instinctively, we knew it made females higher value.

What a coincidence, our instincts for judging female value coincide with what females have the highest success rates at marriage.

You'd have to be an idiot to not understand this.

Thats probably not ganna work out. Ill ask her if shell let me see other girls and most likely the answer will be no so Ill have to start fresh.

Ah that's a pretty good point of view actually.

you're not though. only sexually repressive cultures behave this way. if you study matriarchal societies you will see very different "facts". I'm not trying to argue how thing should or shouldn't be. we no longer live in the kind of society though that's fostered the virgin mother meme.

She was my first as well, but I was her third... so yea. You probably will regret marriage if its bothering you now. You just gotta stay true to your instincts and not let society tell you youre wrong for having this instincts.. “the past is her past, what she did before u has nothing to do woth u, she has the right to fuck as many guys etcetc”. Ive accepted that I cant fully commit myself to a girl like that, and once youve accepted it you can start making decisions on what you want to do

but now you're no longer a virgin? you see how ridiculous this ideology is? good thing you weren't born a women.

You are wrong for thinking that men and women are held to the same standards sexually. A man has to bust his ass and struggle to get laid, whereas a woman just has to point to her crotch and grunt

Unironically, if I make it my actual plan is to have kids without getting married. Current year society (not just neet imageboards but the whole thing really) has taught me not to believe in or value romantic love, so really idgaf if the woman cheats on me or leaves me or whatever, I just don't want to be married to her if/when she does. Child support is no problem if she wants custody of the kids, it more or less makes sense and it generally isn't that much relatively speaking even for multimillionaire celebrities. Otherwise I'll be happy to just raise the kids myself.

Cheat on her a few times, user. You'll feel better once you even the score. Trust me.

Alright then enjoy the thought of your wife 20+ partners.

How confident and masculine of you to not judge her past experience.

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you make absolutely no sense. what you're saying is women should be virgins because they can get laid anytime they want, and men should have numbers under their belt because they have to work for it? I really don't get why you guys are so hung up on virginity. everyone's a virgin, until their not, then they never are again. so fucking what.

You guys are fucking beta. Just cheat on her a few times. You'll feel better because you'll feel more in control.

I fuck a lot of people user. I don't think about everyone they've ever fucked cause it doesn't matter to me. It's weird to me that you do. I legit don't understand why you think you should own someone's past before they ever knew you. its weird.

Honestly, you sound pretty beta too.
>>Tfw your girlfriend had 100 sexual partners before you.

How progressive...

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Fucking and choosing a wife to build a family with are completely different thing mate.

They're are low value females to fuck for fun, and then they're are high value females to actually think about building a family with.

It is important to be able to differentiate the two.

You will learn this with time I hope.

I'm probably older than you and have been in longer relationships than you. I live my life user. you're sick ideologies don't plague me.

anyone who talks alpha/beta is beta. my girlfriend hasn't had 100 sexual partners. normal women have a few. virgins are as abnormal (and as big a red flag) as the 100+ ones.

He won't learn because he's a new-age beta, cosmopolitan fag who bought into the progressive nonsense in fashion these days.

WOmen should be virgins because they are the gatekeepers of sex. Its their imperative to choose an ideal mate to raise their children and not be washed out roastie single moms. Guys will try to fck anything they can because they have tons of sperm and dont lose anything from doing so, and in fact have to be high value to even be able to do that in the first place

Also when a girl loses her virginity her body is literally changed. Whereas a mans is not. A woman losing her virginity is also emotionally impactful for them, whereas for men typically its not

What do you mean sick ideologies?

Literally every single one of your ancestors no matter what part of the world you are from placed high value on female virginity.

I hope you're trolling.

>cheat
Yea so she can tell everyone when she inevitably finds out and ruins your reputation

Lol. Cope harder. My wife was a virgin (I wasn't, but that doesn't matter). Do you enjoy that cancer in your throat caused by the hpv she contracted from her long line of lovers? Kiss those lymph nodes goodbye.

You are only interested in ONS and quick sex thats why the womans past doesnt bother you. Of course if you just want sex her past doesnt matter. You think I ask how many dudes a girls slept with when im hooking up woth her at a bar/concert? No, but at some point you gotta stop being degenerate and find a mother for your children

odds are she's fucking guys like me when you're not around dude. she's not fucking you anymore...is she?

If you get caught, you're a retard. Fuck someone from a different city. I don't cheat on my wife, because she was a virgin, but I always cheated on my non-virgin gfs. I don't owe them anything.

I... guess I could do that, but why bother being bf gf at that point?

I fuck her silly and we have kids so she doesn't get out much anymore, anyway. Women only cheat if you're a dicklet who can't get the job done, which I am not, fortunately.

Free pussy?
It's your life user. You can marry a non-virgin if you want. I wouldn't, though.

Based

I stopped caring whether or not my future gf/wife is a virgin. I have autism and was abused growing up, so I missed out on a lot of my young adult life for reasons out of my control. Yes, I've read all the statistics from Jow Forums regarding non-virgin women and the likelihood of a relationship failing because of it. My hope is that I can slowly redpill her so she realizes her choices were wrong and would want to make things work as badly as I do. I don't intend on turning a whore into a housewife but I hope my future woman can count get previous sexual partners on both hands, preferably one. At this point in life (25), and in this society, it would a statistical anomaly for me to be someone's first anyway. I care more about feeling loved and appreciated, and as long as she doesn't cheat I'm willing to look past her past if it isn't too terrible and try to make things work.

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The problem is you are coming from a place of scarcity. You are probably too needy and wont even be able to get the roastie non virgin girl.
The ideal way to go about it is to build a roster of girls to date, and then pick the best one out of all of them. Good luck though youll have to be pretty chad

>My hope is that I can slowly redpill her so she realizes her choices were wrong and would want to make things work as badly as I do
lmao
Bro, she will cheat on you shamelessly unless she's too unattractive to be able to easily do so. We do not live in a society where people with your kind of background find faithful partners, except in extremely rare cases of which you will not be one. The ONLY way to deal with the problem is to not care about being cheated on because you can just move on to the next girl. Don't ever believe someone who tells you otherwise, they are deluded or trying to sell you the usual normalfag propaganda about romance. You can't have the thing you want in a society that flat out doesn't respect things like celibacy and virginity and even "sexual virtue", whatever that means anymore. That's unless you find someone genuinely religious as has been previously mentioned in this thread.

>non-virgin
So 1/10s and maybe 40% of 11 year olds?

You sound like you lack experience with women.

>tfw you unironically have autism.

Depending on how bad it is, your autism won't matter. Cast a wide net, eventually you'll get a catch. It doesn't matter if you're fucking a fatty. Having sex will boost your confidence and you'll be able to approach other girls more confidently.

>25
25 is pretty young. If you want a virgin gf, date 18 year olds (or 17 year olds. the younger the more likely to be a virgin. Some women are virgins up to 21). You have autism, so her immaturity probably won't put you off too much. 18 year olds will naturally gravitate to you, assuming you have a car, job, etc.
Search for a virgin gf while sport-fucking other girls and boosting your confidence. Simple.

So many fucking incels and theta cucks here...

Where the hell do you meet 18 year ilds if youre 25 and out of college?

I used to be needy, I'm actually pretty indifferent to whether or not I have a partner anymore. I'm white and attractive and have had women fawn over me before, so it's not like I could never get one. Actually came close to dating a model a few months ago.
I've read all the stats bro. Yes, infidelity is a large problem, but it's still committed by a minority of women. Not everyone is a sociopath, but since I'm here on Jow Forums, I know a lot of you are mentally ill and operate on that assumption of not LARPing. I don't need you to approve of my life choices anyways.
Thanks for the advice.

>you make absolutely no sense. what you're saying is women should be virgins because they can get laid anytime they want, and men should have numbers under their belt because they have to work for it?

yes exactly. you humongous flaming faggot. that's the way nature and evolution works

i dont need charts to know women are disgusting whores

Easy to find if you aren't locked in your room all day. Believe it or not, kids these days still hang out at a lot of malls on Saturdays besides online shopping being a thing.

The key is to not get hung up on the first non-virgin girl you fuck and make her your gf. You can call her your "gf" but keep searching for you virgin gf (future wife) while you're dating her.

>I've read all the stats bro. Yes, infidelity is a large problem, but it's still committed by a minority of women. Not everyone is a sociopath, but since I'm here on Jow Forums, I know a lot of you are mentally ill and operate on that assumption of not LARPing. I don't need you to approve of my life choices anyways.
You're misunderstanding me. I'm not talking about the stats, I'm talking about how women think and behave based on personal experience. Yes, "women" is a broad generalization, and not all women cheat, but your idea that infidelity is this terrible thing that only sociopaths do is where you go wrong. Women DO NOT think that way. The worst ones actually get offended that you'd judge them for it, and the more typical ones just don't think it's that big a deal either way. Don't kid yourself.

It sounds like you're talking from anecdotal experience. Most women I know find cheating abhorrent, and those that don't are pretending like you've said. But I'm still going to operate under the assumption that only, albiet a large amount, a minority of women cheat. When the dozens of peer reviewed studies I read reflect your anecdotal experiences, I'll agree with them.

Only virgins care about infidelity.
Most non-virgin women cheat, bros.

Pro-tip: if you think she's cheating, then she probably cheating. Don't get hung up on one girl and you won't sulk about it. Fuck her and move on.

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oh shit.. does this mean i gotta post my nigga dicc pham

No, women only care if YOU cheat on them. Most women cheat because most people cheat these days. Go into relationships with that expectation.

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I remember being a virgin, and yes I took the idea of virginity very seriously and basically had the idea that cheating and being cheated on is the worst thing imaginable and would be utterly emotionally devastating. Until you've been in a few relationships it's hard to understand the mindset where it just doesn't seem like that big a deal. I personally think it SHOULD be a big deal, but unfortunately it just isn't considered to be and I'm not the king of women so what can I do.

I agree with christian framework of how society should be run. But there needs to be a little nuance, even if every guy converted tomorrow with their right hand to god, there wouldn't be enough "good" women to go around and wife up. It's the same thing with a lot of hot issues, you can strive for perfection, but no matter what the world is always going to be imperfect to some degree.

Infidelity is a big deal, but people are going to do it anyway.

You don't have to be "loyal" to anyone but your wife (who was a virgin when you met her).

If youre alpha enough they let you heat on them... women are cucks

Not really, only in the west. Go to literally any other country and women are strictly encouraged to be virgins by their parents

I can't say I agree with that. I'll bet you in the outlandish hypothetical scenario where every man on earth suddenly converted to Christianity and got serious about it, suddenly you'd find that all the women are "good" too, even ones that have had dozens of partners before. They'd be good mothers, they wouldn't cheat, etc because there would be an actual expectation of this and social consequences for deviating from that. Currently there are essentially no such expectations and no particular consequences, outside religious enclaves.
Now I don't know that having the whole world suddenly turn Christian would necessarily be a good thing on balance, but it would certainly improve family life I bet.

All I'm saying is there needs to be a little nuance. The world isn't black and white. You say things like "It's different when men cheat" and from an evolutionary perspective, yes that's true. But the bible makes no distinction between man and woman when it comes to adultery, they should both be put to death even though we know it's more damaging when women cheat.

Because the west is cucked.
Whatever, just get the free pussy while you search for virgin gf. You better win somehow.

If you actually want to be biblical...

Sex with a virgin = marriage in the bible. Also the bible doesnt forbid men from having multiple wives or mistresses, it just says “it is not good to do that”.

Sex with a virgin means you are married to her in the eyes of god. And so if youre dating a non virgin you are both in adultery, unless the father explocitly denies the marriage with the first guy. Thus 90% of people are comitting adultery according to the bible

Artisanal toad explains all of this

It only matters if you cheat when you love her, user. And you'd be an idiot to allow yourself to love a non-virgin

Stop getting so Evangelical on us, user.

Life isn't so clear cut. Do what you have to.