Seriously you're fucking dumbasses if you don't start paying attention to this kid. The recent nodary article alone should have made you realize how far ahead his thinking is. Making the nodes more secure while increasing token scarcity. Almost nobody picked up on the later. You're making a huge mistake by under estimating him, dont forget he's also one of our own and knows everything we know, this is the only place with such a heads up. Betting on his future is like betting on juels before he started working at rsa.
Seriously you're fucking dumbasses if you don't start paying attention to this kid...
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literally who
who is this virgin?
No one is underestimating him.
We just don't like Timo and don't want to give them money.
If he's legit he'll make it with the quick cash and will have more incentive to do so versus getting handed money for nothing.
Barack Obama
im a burger and can't give money
all that's left is 3rd world countries
wonder why they aren't getting funding
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He's remarkably bright and the real deal, that's for certain. The issue is with the rest of the team, the communication and business development side. Clear mistakes were made. Measures that should have been taken have not been taken.
Here's a summary of main arguments so far and their associated counter-argument with most white noise filtered out:
(dis.: I have interest in seeing them succeed as an aspiring small-time linklet operator)
>Sergey is building a fucking market place for apis as we speak. You are overlapping Chainlink team's development: medium.com
Official response by clcg:
"Yes, we have discussed our plans with many members of the Chainlink team, inc Sergey. There does not seem to be any overlap or conflict between what our two teams are currently working on. In our experience, the Chainlink team is very welcoming to third party projects building services on top of their tech. However it should be noted that as we all know, they are quite tight-lipped about any specifics."
"We have made it clear that we're not in any kind of official partnership or anything with Chainlink. We simply asked if we would be stepping on any toes by doing this. I expect they would advise us against building an API marketplace if they had any plans. I think that's [the article] about all these 'we are also using CL' type of announcements that we keep hearing"
anonymous:
chainlink is onboarding providers but they're not helping the neet nodes afford expensive apis
chainlink is not building an api marketplace to help the neets run profitable nodes
could chainlink succeed without this marketplace? yeah. but would such a marketplace accelerate and grow chainlink's success, while also capturing some of the improved value flowing through the network?
do you really think 5000 neets are each going to subscribe to monthly $500 plans to offer a handful of niche apis? Under burak's proposal our nodes would be available to ALL partnered premium providers by DEFAULT with pretty much no significant upfront cost. It'll be like signing up for a binance account where you can buy/sell tokenized API calls and you'd only be charged trading fees
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agreed another word for that is unprofessional
>Neet nodes will be a drop in the ocean to further increase decentralization. Big corps will be running hundreds of thousands of nodes you think trillion dollar investments will be done relying on more than 2% of literal who nodes? The neet node dream won't happen but the 1000 EOY dream will.
You're saying that:
-decentralization is necessary but having corporations running nodes are sufficient for the network
-therefore it wouldn't be necessary or significant for average joes to learn how to operate nodes
BUT:
-LP's entire purpose is mainly to make it easy for average joes to optimize their nodes and give them opportunities to be alongside corporate AAA nodes.
-Jonny has been invited to the cl team
>Their 2000ETH, 7m valuation is painful to think about
ETH is not an accurate indicator as prices have since fallen. 300kUSD for 10% stake. LP's equilvalent would be around 230kUSD for 10% stake.
>Reminder that Sergey NEVER said a service like CLC is needed for the network to succeed.
True but please have a look at point #1 again
>The biz hivemind that deduced link as the chosen one has also come to the conclusion that clc groups cash grab is bunk. If what they are selling is so necessary and great, then they will make it anyway and if they don't it proves it wasn't as integral to the ecosystem as they would have you believe.
Good point but it's obvious there are currently special interests in slowing down small-time node operators to keep competition low during the initial stages of reputation farming post mainnet. Is this post speaking for the community of small-time operators or for your private discord?
>We dont feel comfortable making a tracker because our idea is superrr secret
Good point. Investors need to see more and so far they have nothing. Even Jonny had mockups during LP ico.
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oh God, I got baited into another retarded chainlink thread
Another fine post by T.mo or one of the other clcg discord trannies.
Keep up the good work guys
>complain about linkpools 25% cut for staking, including insurance on your staked LINK
>decide to run your own node and pay Timo Harambe for every fucking API call instead
never change biz
>Reminder there is ZERO PROOF that the chainlink team looked at the CLC whitepaper
50/50. Thomas and Jonny reviewed an earlier version of their whitepaper. Don't know how much has changed since their review.
>Honeycomb is a centralized scam
they do not literally create the APIs and is simply a platform for you to obtain access for API calls, much like uber, airbnb or even kyber. 'Subscribing' to APIs would literaly be as easy as buying/selling crypto on kyber/binance.
[PASTA FROM ANOTHER user]:
None has yet addressed this: how else can we obtain subscription-based API calls? How can
shoo shoo nigger, we're full
yea full of nigger dicks
pic related for the weird and sudden change of attitude towards node operation on biz
missed this:
>something like this is far too early and the community doesn't need this at the moment.
50/50. We don't need this now, but development takes time. By the time we realise the need it'd be too late and whales would have had a head start in reputation farming
timeline:
>EOY(?) 2019 first stage cl mainnet. Little adoption apart from large corporations, similar to the infancy of telecommunications.
>Q1 2020. cl network gains traction. CLC completes honeycomb MVP and offers STO and certification service.
>Q2 2020. Mainstream awareness should begin by now with multiple consumer smart contracts and DApps propping up. Demand for various flavours and types of APIs exponentially rises.
>Q3-Q4 2020 Honeycomb full product launch with various high profile API providers on board, offering nodes to connect to every listed APIs with no upfront cost, just in time for the awareness phase much like binance before the 2017-2018 bull run.
sounds great. fire Timo and we might chip in a few bucks
Frameo is the real discord tranny you should be cautious about.
pic related, not don't know if it's frameo though
Don't make me dump the clcg recruiting discord and slack history along with your german crypto group then it'll really be over
Do it
Timo has no right to exist
If you had something you'd use it.
notice how fudders never attempt to address the core issue
it could've been lost in the pastas though, allow me to repeat:
None has yet addressed this: how else can we obtain subscription-based API calls? How can
Correct.