BE HONEST

I'm more than happy to bank on the fact that teachers will get their pensions. If it suddenly becomes such that NYC no longer fulfills what they're promising their teachers...we've got bigger issues. We'll sell the home we're inevitably inheriting and move to bumfuck iowa.

I don't play the doomsday game. If it all goes to shit, I'll go back to eating beans and washing my clothes in the sink.

maybe 600 euros a month as I pay most of the food from store and also restaurants, and also most drinks at bar

she does 90% of the household work so I think it's a good balance

This is around what I pay, but I also have a phone.

I spend about $200 a month on mine as well. She does the groceries, and we split everything in half except restaurants, take out, etc. Based on the amount of sex we have, it is a good deal compared to using an escort.

Who taught her.

>If you're flexing your cash in the beginning, you'll likely attract a leech. They're hard to get off once they're latched on.
spot on. NEVER start flexing your money until you've been dating for 1-2 years. Then you just might loosen up a bit but still you should be careful. Women will take it for granted really quick and expect it to happen in the future.

I fucking got a blowie from a stripper yesterday. i also cummed in my pants after a lap dance. wasted 1000 dollars. feels like ass, godammit sex is a scam. never again in my life. I am fine with wasting that money, I am scared that I have herpes or not. I fucking bleed on her tits, my dick is aching. u think her sharp nails punctured my foreskin. I am depressed I missed my chance to buy btc 3500. I am too stubborn to put money in now. I wish i was larping

>premium tv service
why the fuck are you waisting your money on a dedicated TV licence?
Let me guess 100% for her to watch shit?

Sounds like you're getting cucked

He did

her instinct of demon cock sucker.
date the devil since 2009

>spot on. NEVER start flexing your money until you've been dating for 1-2 years. Then you just might loosen up a bit but still you should be careful. Women will take it for granted really quick and expect it to happen in the future.

It's 75$ for 1 gig internet
45$ for Youtube TV which travels with me when I'm on the road for work here and there
15$ for HBO For Game of thrones.

My cellphone service provider takes care of our netflix...

I refuse to be frugal to the point where I can't turn a fucking TV on in my house and watch bullshit if I want to.

Being frugal isn't about NOT having something. Big misconception a lot of people have.

I CUT THE CORD SO I JUST READ SHAMPOO BOTTLES FOR FUN.

I buy things that bring value to my life. I need high speed internet for work. The TV keeps me feeling human on the road and in my apartment. I never thought I'd have to defend having TV and internet in 2019...but here we are...

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Above response was meant for your link btw

Married, shared economy, wife makes almost the same as me, but also cleans and cooks. Solid investment id say

I pay everything for both of us, except her own shopping and cosmetics bullshit, yet still spend less than when i was single (because i dont go whoring anymore)

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>I CUT THE CORD SO I JUST READ SHAMPOO BOTTLES FOR FUN.
So, I guess the youngsters these days have lost awareness that books exist, lol.

About a 0% chance of that.

She earns less and we still 50/50 everything. So 0.

>books exist
dude how are you gonna download them to your kindle without internet??

I think there are three types of costs in this regard. The first is the one everyone here is talking about, the amount above and beyond half of their shared expenses. The second part is the money you spend having a lifestyle that is acceptable to women in general, before you ever even have one. For instance, I don't own a car and I rent two rooms in my house. Many men would accept, or even envy, my lifestyle, except for women think I'm a loser. Thirdly is money they insist on spending, that you tell everyone you wanted to spend too, but that you really wouldn't spend if it was up to you. Her new Mercedes SUV. That big house in the good school district. Private school for the kids, even if you live near the good schools. They will spend you into slavery. I've seen it happen many times.

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Easily $2500/mo

She makes my house a home, gives our daughter a fantastic role model, and, behind closed doors, likes to be lead around on a leash and given direct orders

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without a girl in my life i would literally have a SHIT TON of disposable cash and could buy the best car, vidya, figurines and whatever manchild shit i want

but all that is a dead end.. i'd rather have some children and a nice house, make them have the comfy life i never had

Maybe a few hundred most from going out to dinner. We live together.

It's amazing, before i had kids i can't remember when i lived for. I just coasted because why not?

But after having kids, everything changes. Every other priority shifts down and a new one gets put at the very top. I've never had less freedom in my life, and I've never been happier

*WHAT i lived for, not when

Was exaggerating the point to enforce the extreme nature of some of these frugal psychos. They'd consider a book a luxury item.

I enjoy a book as well. Why not both? Buy things that bring value to your life.

Sounds fun. Maybe that's what I need in my life.

Nigga what? Dead end what? Some day your kids and wife will be dead too. Living life for others is some weird shit that people do in order to hide from the fact that life is meaningless and the only true pursuits are ones of hedonism. Buy the fucking figurine bro. It'll be here long after your kids and wife's bones turn to dust.

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Ever fuck 'em?

$75 in Germany gets you the best of the best internet and pay-TV including soccer,etc

post brapper

This. About thirty I also gave up on lambo land bullshit fantasies and started investing smarter. I am doing better now at 37 than I ever did in my twenties and things keep going up. Once I realized it was a long game on making it, it all seemed much more attainable. As well, having children is stressful but more rewarding than anything I did when I was younger. I like to think that there is a cult of self obsession that drives this, I have siblings that a basically adult children and total tumblerinas lost in themselves and neither have a pot to piss in. If they would just grow up and live for something other than themselves they might evolve a little.

Not gonna lie. This is some of the most depressing shit I've ever heard. It's like watching the band play while the Titanic sinks.

It's like your life is no longer yours. You're just fueling some poop-machine until he's old enough to not give a fuck about you.

inb4 JUST CUZ U HAD A BAD CHILDHOOD DON MEAN DAT,..

I had a great childhood. My parents had to stop doing coke and fucking whoever they wanted. They had to stop partying. My dad was a touring musician....who had to quit and work as a security guard. I always had everything I asked for, and looking back at it-- I'm more upset that they had to cut their life short in order to provide for me. It's senseless.

I highly recommend it if you can find a female worthy of bearing your young

She fat

Live for something other than yourself- it's a great way to override the monkey part of the brain. But what good has that ever done for us? Would we not be better just fucking and living from the land? This is the type of thinking that lead humanity into the shit heap.

Live for something else, maybe.

Live for someONE else? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE

My brother's this way, but my sister's getting better. The sad part, though, is that women have a clock, and hers has just about run out. You're right about the self-obsession thing

You know what you are talking about

So they never instilled in you the idea that you were worth the sacrifices they had to make for you?

Now that's sad

to me it was different
when i met gf i was walking around with shoes that had holes where my toes are and jeans that had no knee. i had no money just some student loan. she was still fresh out the country with no money to her name and with a shit job. she paid rent for a while and bought all the food because i had no money. it's astonishing how much our wealth grew together.

Sometimes. Other times I feel like a fucking alien. I just trace a simple line of logic and it seems that it's so foreign to people-- they can only respond with negativity and get offensive.

Just fucking do the logical thing, my baby.

Your kids ARE you, user. They're not someone else, they are literally half you and half the partner you choose.

Get over your fear of responsibility and take the leap of faith that all your ancestors took. You'll be happier as long as you're smart enough to choose wisely

She's literally 100% ideal.

They say the same bullshit you say.

"It's the best thing that ever happened! I've never been so happy! Teh day u were born was a blessing!"

It's literally psycho speak that you tell yourself in order to justify the fact that you're no longer free. You're bound to this new life and you're obligated legally and morally to ensure it's going to be at least okay.

I was loved, I was cared for-- I was the typical mamas boy and dad's favorite. But it's all bullshit really-- I often wonder how much fun they gave up in order to make sure I could shit into a clean diaper. Stop trying to deflect and make it seem like I'm fucked up from being raised poorly-- and maybe consider the fact that I'm perfectly well adjusted, if not a little too aware-- and you're bullshitting yourself in order to take away the ache that comes from knowing you'll never be able to totally do what you want.

I wish I could find a woman to marry and have children with. I already have all the "adult" things taken care of and I am quite bored now

>Buy the fucking figurine bro. It'll be here long after your kids and wife's bones turn to dust.
the figurine will be doing what? it's just a piece of plastic. Your kids might have kids of their own etc. or you or your kids might influence other people and thus further advance the human race to reach our final state. Every time hedonists decide not to have kids it makes me laugh.

I disagree.

If having a kid was so rewarding-- cumming in a pussy wouldn't feel as good as it does. Nature had to make it a fucking trap.

Your kids are you is again-- just fucking ego. Your last gasp at saying that you'll "live beyond your years in your children" or that there's some greater meaning to it all...there ain't. You'll go. Your kids will cry. They'll have kids and name em after you. They'll die.

The cycle repeats, and our species moves on.

I'm envious of the people here that have loving families that they can rely on, and that would support them no matter what. Often times though, you don't find out if your wife is one of those people until it's too late. When I think about marriage, I consider it betting half my net worth, plus three times the sanity, that I can pick a woman better than everyone who's been divorced by one. It's like putting your life in the hands of a teenager and hoping they don't ruin it. No thanks.

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The final state of what? If humanity is headed towards it's final state-- what would you guess it is given our current trajectory?

You know who put us on this path? People with egos saying they're gonna take care of their future generations!

They get cut throat. Need more money. More wealth...land...power. More than any man or generation could ever need-- because that's NOT ENOUGH. We must influence other people and thus further advance the human race! tens..hundreds...thousands of years of influence from my seed! OUR FINAL STATE AWAITS FELLAS! GO HAVE A KID SO WE CAN PUSH MORE EMISSIONS INTO THE ATMOSPHERE AND BRING THIS FUCKING PLANET DOWN!!!!

Wife makes 60k a year, so that covers most of her expenses. Eventually. (Student debt) Find a good woman, and it is worth.

Your attitude screams self-loathing, and that's why you don't want to reproduce.

I literally said in an earlier post that I've never been less free and never been more happy. Your obsession with freedom is the meme we're fed to keep us self-obsessed and under the replacement rate.

I'm sorry you seem to have so fully swallowed poison and crave the pablum. You write intelligently. I hope you're able to love yourself enough to one day pass it on.

I'm sorry your life sucks.

>huhh... my life is superior to those NPC normalfags because unlike them, I, the supreme gentleman, have self awareness. I do not spend my money on friviolous pursuits such as procreating or enjoying meaningful relationships and seeing my flesh and blood grow and enjoy the world
>i can now spend my life playing shit steam game #32290 and collecting my favourite autism hobby #23493
>those wagecuck normalfags! when will they learn?

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you posting her ass or what

It's a strange duality- really.

What I believe is what I believe to be true-- but I always hold out that the idea of children and family will some day pronounce itself as the true answer to happiness.

So far-- wracking my brain has only yielded the ability to understand selfishness and living for yourself to be the answer. It's the only thing that has brought me anything close to true happiness. I just don't see how something as simple as squirting into a woman and waiting 9 months could be the key to happiness.

The mother sweating and yelling at her 3 kids in costco while they run around....

The dad who let himself get fat and sit wistfully recounting the good ole days...

I'm happy on my own, really-- and happier with my partner...but the idea that adding a new player to the game that derails what I'm doing now? Added stress and anxiety? How could that ever equate to a positive?

My freedom is not some grand vision...I just want to be able to stay up as late as I'd like without issue. Go where I'd like without issue. Buy what I'd like-- do what I'd like...an addition of responsibility draws back on those things.

Before I bought a car-- I knew I'd benefit from having one. It was simple.

Before owning a dog, I knew there'd be responsibility but also a payoff of companionship and joy without having to lay my life down for it.

With a child--none of that is as apparent, and none of it is as simple.

>hehh life has no meaning so just shit yourself in your gayming vidya chair and play bing bing wahoo

most blue pilled thing i have ever read tbqh

My life is pretty good actually. I'd imagine I'm living in a nicer place. Making a healthier salary, and overall doing more of the things I want than you are able to.

I'm aware that a lot of that is due to luck and circumstance...but hey-- you'll just be mean to anyone who opposes your world view. Accepting reality sucks some times.

Absolutely not

My life is okay. Probably on the higher end of okay, really. But I suspect you'll just be interested in boiling it down into something you can make fun of so you don't have to explore your own feelings of dissatisfaction and failure. That's not what the meaning of my post was. If you took it as that-- then that's fine. But to say the meaning of life comes out of your wife's pussy...

Abit strongly worded but more or less this unironically

6/700 euro per month

The coworkers I know that are engaged are constantly BROKE always waiting for the next paycheck
The others who are single (quite lots of virgin neckbeards) have lots of cash and they are like:"Hey man look at my brand new 83th expensive smarthphone that I've bought this year"
BTW the captcha is so fucking annoying, I had to do it 6 times

>hehh im not going to tell you what i do for fun.. but my life is soo much better and i earn more than you! i also live life to the fullest (btw i dont have children or a relationship, which is literally the only objective point of every living organism, to procreate) btw did i tell you how happy i am and how much better my life is than yours? I am totally not coping for being an incel

wow kid, you rekt me. gg

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Someone who isn't trying to insult me to protect themselves....thanks. It's heavy handed, sure. But in essence...the idea comes across. I'm not nearly as doom'n'gloom in real life. I have a job and responsibilities that require more tact to manage...but none that can't be dumped without issue should I decide I want to do that.

You can't really dump a kid.

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Dozens of other guys have slapped it and done the nasty, parted those cheeks with a log of a cock. Far more than just seeing a photo. So do a solid for your bros.

Based and redpilled
Having a family isn't always the best choice. If you get satisfaction out of it ok, but a lot of peope don't and they throw out the best years of their lives

my gf was unironically a virgin before i met her

honestly lmao at your life if you dont only date virgins...

how does it feel to be a side character irl?

germany is the size of ohio and has been around for 3000 years

Didn't say any of that...so again you're just filling in blanks of an argument I'm not even making in order to shit on it.

I'm glad to have a discussion with you-- but you're just interested in being right. No point in getting into a pissy fight over it.

I don't live to the fullest. I don't take advantage of my freedom. I don't savor every minute...but I know it doesn't matter either way. I'm not trying to find happiness by adding another living thing to the equation.

your mom

>hehh some people eat chocolate and fizzy drinks instead of good varied meals and water.. its all subjective bro you do what you want in real life

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based

>le bitter incel misanthrope babbys first internet post
>le world is le angry and howwible place! humans kill the planet! dont procreate anymore!

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3/10

0/10

You're not even good at rating burns, dude. That was at least a 4 or 5.

every "burn" from an incel is 0/10

Probably $100 a week on my wife and it's truly a bargain. I'll buy random things for her every 1-2 weeks. Sometimes that's flowers, sometimes it's special ingredients for a meal she really likes, sometimes it's tickets to see a show. If you don't do these things for your woman, don't be surprised if they start acting out and things in the relationship become inexplicably harder. A wife is a very expensive pet, one that hopefully provides you a lot of value. That's worth an investment, just as a good pet owner buys their dog new toys and takes them places and spends time with them. Jow Forums is one of those strange places where dudes insist women are not the equals of men, and then also expect women to split everything halfsies.

People are terrorized to be alone that's what
They have been instilled that you have to be engaged to be a normal human
So... Nice NPC mentality over there
BTW I enjoy my life at 100%

Got a based frugal gf so I spend about $100 max per month on dates, which I choose to initiate. We do quite a bit of travel/vacations too and averaging those costs out that probably adds another $200 per month. Travel costs are low because we both travel for work and earn a shitload of hotel/airline/rental car points.

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>some people are terrorized to be alone so they make up incel copes that theyre bing bing wahoo and being single and childless at age of 30+ is okay

fixed

About $150 . I keep saying I'll break up with her, but I'm scared of being alone

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ahaha chubby chaser

What if you’re not celibate or single and still feel this way? What if you have every measure of success and a cutie virgin gf who wants to marry and have your kids? What if you don’t fit neatly into the fat neckbeard bucket? How does your argument stand up, then?

Can't say I don't agree. I hope you have a nice link stack fren, we'll make it

I'm going to say around $200/mo. I usually pay for her when we go out but sometimes she will offer to pay and I let her. We also live together and she contributes about 1/3 of the rent/bills and also buys groceries sometimes. I am probably spending more on her overall but it's also kind of a wash. Having help with the rent is nice desu. I think I actually save more money now than when I was living completely alone.

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