Most of the personal experiences I’ve read on here about IT work is that it’s comfy so I want to pursue it for mid term gains. What do I have to learn to become one? I’m talking the bare minimal. I’m no stranger to researching and learning I just want to learn shit I have to know to get by. Any books?? Also wanna avoid the meme of college especially cause most IT job ads don’t specify you need a degree in whatever an IT degree is. Thanks
Comfy IT career
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if you had the aptitude for a comfy IT career you wouldn't asking these questions. sorry
unironically
IT is a meme user, oversaturated pajeet market and even then it will be fully automated in no time to the point only a few IT monkeys will be needed to keep shit running
Yep, either learn cybersec or cloud. Network engineering is becoming more and more automated and desktop support has become the new help desk
What is this reddit tier shit
>Wants to be an IT tech
>Can't use google
100% Indian coworkers, but that’s not the problem
The problem is that you are firing your brain on all cylinders and when you get home you are toasted. You look out the 1 window on your office building floor and it’s a nice day out. Hm, you think. If I had some money I could be free right now, do some yoga in the sun then code something You actually enjoy at a reasonable hour (past 5pm).
But then, you remember you are poor, so until you can afford to venture into the world without a financial umbilical cord, you’re stuck frying your retinas and your brain cells for mr. Shekelstein shareholder
I'm a system admin for a large retail pharmacy in the US. I've been doing it for about 7 years now and making 160k a year. 175 with bonuses and stuff, and really awesome perks.
I work from home and travel only in the event of a major system upgrade.
I work for about 1-2 hours a day at most, managing user accounts and windows server patching.
I'll answer specifics if you have them, but there are two ways I've seen to get into this position.
Go get a ton of certifications from Microsoft/Citrix/Cisco, etc, and then apply for a Jr Sys Admin job.
Start as a level 1 support technician, doing bullshit keyboard/mouse swaps and monitor breakfix-- with about 10% of your tickets being things that require more than an apes brain. That's what I did. Worked at an underserved hospital in the ghetto that was starved for talented workers-- I took the opportunity as a Tier 1 and then gobbled up all the training they offered to pay for. Got a certification in a specialized electronic medical record software,posted it to my linked in-- and got offered consulting gigs @ 100$+/hr almost immediately. I worked for 2 more years at my hopsital, and then left after I was confident in my skills. Have been a consultant for a few years, but now a full time employee who negotiated a 100% remote position due to the demand of my expertise.
AMA
>AMA
You have to go back.
>But then, you remember you are poor, so until you can afford to venture into the world without a financial umbilical cord, you’re stuck frying your retinas and your brain cells for mr. Shekelstein shareholder
Can confirm-- I'm actually the only white dude in my entire team. It can fry you during intense deployment schedules-- but for general maintenance....I'm playing video games and watching netflix during the day with a laptop open monitoring systems and keeping an eye on my ticket queue. If you build/monitor properly-- you'll have very little work to do during support.
IT isn't really comfy unless you're a sysadmin who only maintains your business' network.
The idiocy of your clients otherwise knows no bounds. I spent 2 hours looking thru a PBX yesterday because the client said that incoming calls would be forwarded to the wrong extensions. Turns out she was accidentally blind transferring the calls herself. Repeat ad infinitum.
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You have to go back.
Have sex...incel.
Seems like a lot of work. Teach my your ways senpai, do I have to be a code monkey to make it?
Thanks. I'll give it a shot. I'm obviously a socially inept permavirg
I'm not sure what that means--try saying it again.
>05
Ignore these morons, please answer my question sysadmin-sama
I don't even know how to code Hello World and I have been working IT since 2015.
0% coding involved in what I do. Most of it is just understanding the microsoft server platform, and basic networking concepts. As a sys admin, your role is very well defined and clear cut when working for a big company. In smaller shops you'll be expected to know networking/storage/server administration-- but in my case, all I do is manage the windows server portion of our electronic health record software.
It's wise to develop a basic knowledge of networking/storage/server and then start off as a Jr Sys admin. It's not a lot of work ALL the time. Just depends on the # of projects you're working on in a given year. In 209, we're doing 0 major deployments...so it's been a cush ride.
creg is that you?
You're a sysadmin and you're asking a fucking retarded question such as this? Quit your job. You shouldn't be anywhere near computers.
Too bad hard work is seen as "cuck stuff" so nobody will respect you.
I have a bachelors degree already what should I do to start? A+?
What made you want to do IT?
0% coding? What kind of a shit tier sysadmin are you? You don't automate repetitive tasks using some sort of scripting language or, in the case of Windows, shitty Powershell? Pathetic. Jesus....
>0% coding involved in what I do. Most of it is just understanding the microsoft server platform, and basic networking concepts. As a sys admin, your role is very well defined and clear cut when working for a big company. In smaller shops you'll be expected to know networking/storage/server administration-- but in my case, all I do is manage the windows server portion of our electronic health record software.
To expand on this-- for example. We're got 200 or so servers, each performing a specific role. Some of them handle print formatting. Others process the saving/retrieval of image files from our scanner devices. Each server will have an app installed that deploys a set of services and shit that will perform the job.
My job is installing these base packages and then making sure the servers are all aligned with permissions and functions so they play nice with one another.
If printing suddenly fails in our environment, I need to know what servers are involved in that particular work function and just start investigating the moving parts. It's part mechanic, really. Lots of logic involved-- if this, than this--- keep tracking the thread until you find the wrench in your gears.
My god anons, please guide me on which path I should take to achieve this level of greatness. I would love to work from home if possible. Should I just go straight for the Microsoft/Citrix/Cisco, etc certifications? Do I have to have a university degree? I don't want to go back to school and get in more debt.
Stop giving that retard this shit-tier advice. Holy fuck.
>What do I have to learn to become one? I’m talking the bare minimal. I’m no stranger to researching and learning I just want to learn shit I have to know to get by. Any books??
With what you said you'd fit best in IT as a Software Testing. Read up books on that, its all on genlib
Hey sysadmin are you learning any cloud certs?
A+ is an okay way to go-- I never really did that stuff. I'd recommend learning that stuff on your own, and pursuing the windows server certifications and citrix certifications. A specialty in Citrix virtualization products is always going to be in high demand as more things are pushed to the cloud-- I'd spend my time getting those certs if I needed to start over.
I was always a gamer/pc builder as a teen, and my step mother landed me a gig just doing basic helpdesk stuff. I went to school for English Lit-- but that's just a joke of a job market, so I did IT as a sort of fallback, and it spiraled into a career that was very lucrative for me.
>Certifications
HAHAHAHAHA! OH YEAH that'll do it!
Do any future company a favor and never consider going into sysadmin work.
Bump of thread or bump of cocaine?
give me your shit advice please
AWS Fundamentals: Building Serverless Applications on coursera
I don't really consider powershell to be coding. That's more scripting...I guess tomato potato tomato potato thing....
K- feel free to give your advice. I'm just killing some time. It's working for me.
Azure is becoming the go to for more and more businesses every day. It'd be wise to get into that area and earn whatever certs MS is offering. Lots of it is expensive, but I'm sure it'd put you ahead of the market.
You are very unlikely to get a job working remotely with no experience. Actually, completely unlikely...
I started with Cisco CCENT >>> CCNA. Later when I need to I went to Windows Server admin route when I was comfortable enough with the networking needed to support client environment (which is usually not much to be fair, I only needed to understand basic routing and firewall config to make sure all the parts could communicate).
However I had some knowledge from school... Network+ is a bit easier than Cisco certs if you are starting from scratch. I would aim for A+ and Network+ minimum if I was starting again from 0.
Go into automation-easy and pats a shitload of money and companies don’t like admitting they threw millions at a meme so you get paid to fail over and over.
I went to school for an unrelated subject. In IT you don't really need a degree to land a job-- but it may cap you from becoming management level.
Certs aren't going to just have companies bending over for you-- but it's a good way to have a baseline knowledge, and will set you apart from people without it. Getting your foot in the door is hard to do.
You fucking sperg, no one is impressed if you like cucking yourself and becoming the best of the best for brownie points. Fuck off, no one here is kissing your ass
>muh coding and specializations
>muh proper terms
Insufferable cunt
Your questions are reddit tier cringe. Go to reddit and ask them.
>will muh certifications get me muh it job
Anyone being an elitist asshole is not living in the real world. 80% of my success has come by simply being good with people and understanding that the businesses needs are paramount. CEOs and CIOs don't know shit about what you actual do from a nuts and bolts standpoint-- they just want to know you're reliable and can deliver on time.
Thank you anons, you guys are living the dream
This is good, but for every super comfy private sector IT job there are 50 miserable ones with shit like weekend on-call and chink-level long hours.
The easiest way to get a super comfy IT job is in government. I work for a public university and spend at least 80% of my time dicking around on the internet. I work exactly 37.5 hours per week and get 30 days paid leave per year, plus sick time, plus retardedly good health insurance.
I can put in as much, or as little effort into my work as I please, because it's so hard to fire someone here that you can almost get away with murder. Literally I have a co-worker who punched someone in the office and didn't get fired.
The downside is that the salary is less than private sector, but for me the other perks make up for that. gl user.
>being good with people
You have to go back norman
Why are you bitter and upset over someone who wants to ask questions? Shut the fuck up and scroll past it? You're a bitter man who will never succeed.
This right here, we are in the chans though and some aspies like are bound to come up
I probably make more money than you working 100% remote. Just laughing you guys ;)
I assume the government sector is saturated as fuck though.
Go back to studying your certifications. That'll surely get you in the door.
Agreed-- but it's all a matter of what you settle for. It's why I mentioned earlier that success in this field will hinge more on people skills than technical. You have to know how to savvy your way through the ladder and find these cushy positions.
Govt/State/City jobs are very appealing, and are the only kinds I'd consider leaving my job for, just simply for the security they offer. Pay is a little less, but longterm should even out.
Working from home can be the dream-- but it can also be a burden. Sometimes you miss getting out there and going to the office. Go a little stir-crazy. Have to make sure to get out and do plenty of shit on your free time to keep yourself from losing your mind.
You could make 500k a year and I'd still rather be in my position. Whatever you're doing is clearly causing you to be a miserably toxic cunt.
Why are you so sensitive, and on Jow Forums of all places?
Please user, go back to and flex there. No one here cares. We get it, you are awesome. Move on
Some dude is asking for legitimate advice and all you care to do is be a negative prick. It's uncalled for-- you can be a decent person on Jow Forums. There's no rule against it. Look the other way, bro.
I'm just fucking with you guys. No one's flexing.
Carry on then.
Nice one I’ll check it out
I used to work in government IT - never again. Yes the job is somewhat comfy but government employees are literally retarded. My sanity is worth more than dealing with those people. Plus budgets are usually tight so you end up stuck on old systems which makes you less valuable in the job market.
Worked for DXC Technology contracted to Ericsson (Formally Sony Ericsson) for 3 months....
FUCK THAT, fucked the receptionist (Literally) and ghosted those fuckers.
I hope you wagecucks get forced to work 22 hours a day 7 days week... Made more money trading Crypto, selling chinese shit online (240x Mark Up) and claiming gibs.
$150wk savings (After Tax, food, rent etc) with that dogshit job (30hr wk) vs $500wk savings playing Fortnite all day, gymming daily and fucking tinder sluts weekly.
Oh and Fuck you Jack, thanks for the $2k bonus you silly prick, I hope you bought that house you fucking rabbit (5% Deposit).
>Imagine buying property in this environment
Go on...
I used my Linkedin connections to get a do nothing all day job at $28hr (The fucker changed the rate last minute to $26.5).
Should've known then, DXC/Allegis are greasy cunts.
Ericsson is amazing $$$ and people wise. (They billed me out for $100+hr)
Work for Huawei, Ericsson, Honeywell or other defence contractor IT roles if you wanna actually do somthing useful.
>claiming gibs
>bragging about $500/wk
lmao nigger
But at the end of the day, working is for plebs.
Find a way to make passive money or you'll probably die hungry when all this shit is all automated.
They just launched fully automated metro trains in my city. (The are now in actually in peak use, not prototype BS)
You need Tax revenue for a UBS and there will be little tax once unemployment is at 51%.
I pointed him to Jow Forums the fuck is wrong with you (you)ing me with this spergout
Jesus read, $500wk after Tax, food, rent etc.
go sign up at cybrary.it. it's completely free and there are a lot of really great video courses there that are based on IT certs. if youre not doing the degree meme then you want certs. theres a ton of different paths in IT but my comfy route is network administration and security. learn the basics a+ net+ security + then move on to cisco certifications and something like cissp. make about 90k working from home after 6 years at current position
>Blindly selected a few posts for effect
Spergout was due to the flash back this thread caused.
Thank fuck I got out... my millitary service is another story, holyfuck my parents/media brainwashed me.
Thank god I'm still barely an adult and have learnt this shit.
Wow I can tell this is not a Christian board everyone on here is a nasty proud materialist
yes, cant let the jews own everything
My guy. What certs you need to def land a job in it n where apply, cause indeed is data mining at this point.
What is this gay shit being able to play games during the work day. Man do I wish I could work from home. I automated most of my tasks but I need to pretend to be busy during the day because of the open office meme layout. At least I can learn new programming languages and frameworks during the day and get paid for it since it forces me to be productive
>IT
>comfy
What? It's only comfy if it's interesting to you but if it's something you only do for money then no.
money is always comfy user
This guy gets it. Thought I was the only genius here desu.
based
Linux is a must
With the job market in the current state, no, we actually have a serious problem finding qualified candidates. I was involved in the interview process for our team recently and I was flabbergasted by the amount of room temperature IQ fucktards we had to wade through to find someone decent.
My job is extra comfy, cos noone knows what Im doing. Im an expert on my own thing and I can push deadlines as long as I want. I can take days off, lazy weeks, not call in sick, take side gigs. Whatever.
My only advice to yall is to find the niche so obscure only you know what it is about. Most of these are in some kind of science field. I hear single cell is hot, but it is getting mainstream. If you think fadt and wanna work a lot, go there. You have much more chance at hitting a comfy it job, if you try miRNA research. That is if you want most buck per zero work.
But no way in hell I am telling you what my professions is. It is so comfy I cant risk any other single person in the competition
> degree
Is a must ffs. If are not a master at least, you suck cocks and noone wants to know you. You can get ur phd in a startup easily due to muh gonnegtions, while on payroll. After phd it is free sailing. You might even get ur own lab if u r lucky, but to play it safe Id recommend going to a VC fund as an expert consultant.
> waht to learn
Just shitcode python ur way to phd. Then you can hire all the code monkeys u want. But in a fund you wont need that. All you'll have to do is talk to ppl and sheeit, while claiming your expertise. Keep up with KPIs and you got urself a comfy job. Or stop progressing at masters and keep your comfy it job. It is all good. These normies have no idea what science is, but ill tell you this: science is a good way to get money from investors.
The problem with government IT at least here in DC is that people keep getting poached by the private sector. Its far worse in my agency because we're extremely STEM/law heavy and offer up every employee fulltime telework options and the ability to work anywhere in the US and we still have a massive retention issues because law firms and IT outfits keep taking everybody.
This will get much worse when Amazon fully sets up in DC.
I'm a business analyst for a fortune 500 company. 90% of my job is writing basic SQL queries, writing up test scripts, and mucking about with middleware tools. I take home 70k a year starting, two work from home days a week, and the environment is incredibly relaxed and freeform.
Even still, it all has become so soul crushing in a sense. Typically there is barely any work to do. When there is, it involves learning and utilizing all these company-specific tools and systems that I could not be less interested in. It feels like I am spending so much time and mental energy in a postion I simply don't care about, and the fact that is all so cushy and mediocre makes it feel even worse. I also don't care for the theater of white collar office work, but that's a whole separate thing.
Breaking into tech gofron
>has a window
My office unironically has no windows, I'm not even sure if it's legal
no idea but this Jow Forums IT story was very funny
I never went to college and live in the DMV area and I'm 23. I started as helpdesk IT support and moved into cybersecurity and now pen testing. I make 130k. start with the trifecta comptia certs A+ n+ s+ and go to more advanced ones depending on your career path.
Its really not hard but does not happen over night.
How to find work? Where to apply? Halp.
I'm in IT. Hated it after about a year but it's all I know. I could definitely get. 100k plus job but I despise wagecucking and would rather be homeless and poor than work 40 hours a week again. Fuck Israel.