Open up a LLC in Seychelles for $2000

>because EU sees these loans as wage

How exactly do they do that, if the Seychelles LLC has literally no connection to me as a private person on paper? Its like me as a person taking a loan from private bank like Deutsche Bank for example.

What if two different people both do this and issue loans to each other?

for eu anons do the following: create a small mailbox company in malta (inside the eurozone), travel there two times a year and sign some random docs so you can prove your main seat is indeed malta, pay everything with the corp card. do not take profits, do not give out loans. other option: find a lawyer in malta, deposit funds on a locked account in his name. tell him to 'gift' you the funds in the netherlands. register the gift in the netherlands (use a registered notary), this will cost you about 500 euros. your money is officially recognised as a gift in the whole eurozone and cannot be additionally taxed.

bank secret doesn't exist anymore since the panama crisis. it may work because banks are super slow on giving this info but you would still be at risk. it doesn't matter who owns the company. a big loan with a long payback an nearly no interest rate is seen as wage by EU.

can you elaborate?

>How exactly do they do that, if the Seychelles LLC has literally no connection to me as a private person on paper?
The first thing you said in the OP was "open up a LLC in Seychelles for $2000. How do you create the LLC, get your $2,000 in there, and then control what the LLC does with it if it has "no connection to me as a private person on paper"?

>Seychelles LLC make $X.000 profit from crypto trading

In this step, since you own a majority of the Seychelles LLC, it is considered a Controlled Foreign Corporation. Since Seychelles doesn't have a corporate tax, your home country's tax agency will deem the LLC's trading profits as your personal capital gains and tax you accordingly.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_foreign_corporation

Your local tax authorities can't know who is behind the Seychelles LLC, since the Seychellois authority keeps the shareholders of companies secret and doesn't list them in a public company registry.

cash? go there and do it

agreed but that doesn't matter from a tax perspective. they will still tax the recipient of the money. can only speak for eu, don't how us taxman will react.

Your local tax authorities will see the large transfer from the Cayman Islands bank account to your personal bank account, and you will be questioned:

Tax man: "What is the origin of this money?"
You: "It's just a loan from a Seychelles LLC, which isn't taxable."
Tax man: "Through OECD data exchange, we learned that this Seychelles LLC has only ever made wire transfer to one account, yours. So we will henceforth consider this Seychelles LLC a Controlled Foreign Corporation of yours unless you or the LLC can provide paperwork saying otherwise."

> Person A does everything in OP's posts except he lends the money to person B (instead of himself)
> Person B does everything in OP's posts except he lends the money to person A (instead of himself)
would this be legal? Thank you.

>OP still hasn't figured out to do this
>Still thinks he will get away with it
How old are you Oppie?

OP you fucking mongoloid, this is literally what will happen You can't outsmart the tax man with a basic bitch plan like that. Lawyers who literally know every nook and cranny of financial law still get busted for tax evasion and you think your pea brain has come up with some genius simple method they haven't figured out yet?

both will be taxed, doesn't matter who takes the loan. see

Neither the Seychelles nor the Cayman Islands are OECD members. Get fucked niggers.

>Seychelles Commits to Co-operate with OECD on Eliminating Harmful Tax Practices
>26/02/2001 - The OECD is pleased to announce that the Seychelles has joined OECD member countries and eight other jurisdictions in giving a commitment to eliminate harmful tax practices by 31 December 2005.
oecd.org/ctp/harmful/seychellescommitstoco-operatewithoecdoneliminatingharmfultaxpractices.htm

>Seychelles deepens commitment to fight offshore tax avoidance and evasion
>24/02/2015 – Today the Seychelles became the 85th signatory of the Multilateral Convention on Mutual Administrative Assistance in Tax Matters.
>The signing of the Convention represents another important step in Seychelles’ efforts to improve its legal framework and practices in the field of exchange of information for tax purposes.
oecd.org/tax/exchange-of-tax-information/seychelles-deepens-commitment-to-fight-tax-evasion.htm

Well then I guess your plan is absolutely fool proof. Go right ahead and stick it to the tax man, user!

Oppie,

I know for that last /thread your an arrogant prick, but one thing you should be looking at is a 'Common Law Trust'
BUT you better move to a country without CFC regulations before you 'cash out'. If you can't/won't do this your only going to get yourself into trouble!

Let me give you an example of what a trust can do for you.
First off, just to explain trusts, you don't own ANYTHING, the trust does, you are simply a beneficiary. You separate each item within its own trust to limit liability to the trust. ex you are driving the trusts lambo & get into an accident, as you are actually poor yourself its not worth suing you (generally) the only thing they can come after are the items in that trust.

Here in the UK, as an example, we get to hear about ppl driving around in Lambos (& similar) that aren't registered/insured/the 'driver' doesn't have a licence. The police seize these cars, the majority of the public think that its crazy people are doing this. So some rich fag get 'his' Lambo taken...NOPE, it was NEVER 'his' Lambo anywho! Its the trusts. The 'driver' was simply a beneficiary. The trust probably doesn't even own the lambo, it was leased.

A quote from one of the Rothchilds (((Own nothing, Control Everything))), He was obviously talking about trusts!

Take the trustpill

Or keep pigeon holing yourself with an insane idea that won't work. Solutions are available.

Something else will come up in the future & if they want to interact with the global banking system they are going to have to hand over records at some point in the future, this is when you get fucked! esp as you want to stay where you are!

I would say stop thinkin your smarter than you are!

The keyword here is 'Commit'. Just because they signed a document to 'commit' to cooperation, doesn't actually mean that will actively hand out data. Why the fuck do you think that Seychelles has over 200k registered companies with a population of 95k people? Do you think that over 200k rich people are dumb enough to haven't thought all of this? But yea right, keep paying capital gains tax like the cuck you are so tyrone can buy his 8 kids new Jordans with welfare money.

Those 200k companies belong to:

1. Rich individuals who can afford to permanently move to jurisdictions that have no CFC laws. They break no laws by using Seychelles LLCs.

2. Large corporations that can afford high-end tax attorneys capable of designing clever but legal transfer pricing schemes. They break no laws by using Seychelles LLCs.

3. Fucking morons like you.

(not really educated on financial stuff)

Why not commit 5 years for all the paper work and found a new company? Put up like 2% tax to make your monaco jr look pretty. Is that even possible?
Let's say I want to get a piece of Russia. Is it enough that "Putin" agrees to that or does a hole circle of countries have to agree to that?

(Right out of an elite highschool and thinking about what to do next. Currently plan study electrical engineering, any better suggestions?)

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Because the IRS watches this shit, particularly the islands you named. They'll have CI agents chasing you around the world to fuck you up the ass

can he gift me literally millions or only small amounts

the amount does not matter as long as you get it registered with an official notary.

You can just live in a state that has no state income tax, wait more than 1 year, and just pay capital gains tax on your money. You can cash out millions and only have to pay 20% income tax which when you think about it isn't all that much if you make like $10 million.

based. and wont people ask where the notary got the money? does it matter? or is there some kind of secrecy agreement?

seems so easy kek

>he has a registered address and is a tax resident
when will plebs learn? I pay about 70€ corporation tax a month, everything else is tax free profit

go on...

You already made this shitty thread and what will happen is
these

How stupid are you, both of these will exchange info according to CRS

You can't even open a bank account without them knowing that you are the UBO, this is not 1990 anymore

Elaborate, does Malta not have gift tax ehen you gift something to the lawyer? And then you trust the lawyer with all your money. Not to mention your country of residence still probably gets the info that you sent all the funds to the lawyer. Even then, you need to cash out the crypto first, which is taxable. I cannot see how this could ever work

it's easy as pie, bro. these are the steps
1. don't be a burger
2. register business in Estonia, Dubai, Guernsey, or any other of the hundreds of viable places
3. make mad cash (or cash out your sick ETH gains as you've been here since '16)
4. open bank account in some half-decent business friendly country of which you don't hold nationality. e.g. cyprus, malta, panama
5. move away from the shithole you live in to Brisbane, Medellin, Naples, or - given that this is Jow Forums - Pattaya on some sort of visa (student, ideally. you can buy yourself into a private university which issues long term visas)
6. don't file your taxes in your new country