Convince me not to open up a gaming cafe

People who are into videogames enough to consider attending a gaming cafe already have their own rigs at home that will be better than whatever you will have to offer at the cafe. There goes your core audience. Your next hope is that you can entice normies to come in, and PC gaming isn't big in normie culture. If you wanted ROI in the west on an idea like this, you'd open up a hookah/drink bar with multiple videogame systems offered for free with membership. Then have shit like Madden or COD tournaments that offer prize money to the winners. If you really want to stick with the PC gaming cafe idea specifically though, you need to pack up and move to South Korea or some shit.

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Are you previously experienced in running a shop?
Would this be a bad first project?
I know how to build pcs, and how to mount tvs.
Not sure about everything else.

Yeah I mentioned above that pc isn’t a good insentive.
The membership system sounds like a good idea.
What if I aim toward the youth market and set up in a residential district?
Have it be the fortnite hang out spot after school or during summer break. Offer dance lessons, which of course I’ll hire others to do not me.
Or is all that just asking for trouble?

been going to a pinball bar lately.
hell of fun.
do that.

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How’s maintaining those things?
Lots of moving parts.

To be honest, I truly believe I'm still around is simply because of when it started (2004).
85% of the income is from customers who have been coming since near the start.

It has been hard to attract new young people.

A lot of "gamers" have become console casuals who play at home.

You need knowledge of LAN setup
-static ips
-network imaging
-copying games over network (updates too)
-smartlaunch, gizmopowered.com

You can try, but focus on the experience.
Like you said, the money is in offering "can't get this at home" type things.

If you live a significant chink population they will turn your cafe into a trap house

open up a darts bar

unless you make it a Fortnite Cafe literally near a school good luck getting audience

Are you the same user that asked this before?

>Trap house
The good kind of trap or bad?
I do have a good asian population in my vicinity.
Portland, or

No, first time in Jow Forums since 2014 when bitcoin was a meme pipedream(god why didn’t I invest)

Hey if it prints money why not.
It just seems like it’d be hard to manage and keep the youth safe.

This used to be a good idea before the age of smartphones.
Now people don't need to go to leave home to play Moba's, first person shooters, or surf the net.

They can just play mobile legends at home, all on their smartphone.

Or play pubg at home.

You're literally just speculating. Are you aware of any demand for a fortnite meetup spot? Do you see a lot of zoomers frothing at the mouth for a club to go and sit on a computer? I definitely don't. I also observed that fortnite is falling out of popularity so you're already out of touch in that respect too.

Yeah but isn’t it all about location?
If I can get one by a school wouldn’t that bring in a few kids who would rather be there than at home?
What if I call it some shit like “THE GAMER DEN” and go full current ironic meme on the marketing like including epic gamer fuel
maybe offer streaming classes
Every kid wants to be a streamer.

Just do the barcade thing. 21+ so you don't have to deal with annoying zoomers. Buy some vintage arcade games (or build them yourself and load em up with MAME). Hire some hot chicks to sell booze to the autistic gamers. Maybe sell some food too. Fried chicken strips would probably be popular.

>www.dibbz.net
Haha im comin thru N.O. in late August im gonna come thru and sperg out at your business bro

lol
Do it
Also, buy NKN ;]

I’m 24.
I jive more with zoomers than boomers.
I hate boomers who think they lived in the greatest gen of gaming
The only arcade games I’m interested in are the outrun and super hang on ride cabinets.

I'd rather stay alone at home in my smelly undies thanks

I know, I’ve stopped looking at you guys.

Just talking about this. I think the retro angle is better.

I own a Cyber Café in Brazil and things are pretty mehh, but it's much better than wageslaving for the same amount of money

I tell you to try, go ahead and DO EET!

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I think its cool in theory but 99.999% chance of being a massive failure.

I'd like to meet up at one to play vintage games like BF1942 and shit as a LAN party and sip on some BAWLS energy drink with other 30 year olds but I have literally no friends anymore and I think most people it would appeal to also have no friends so it's kind of like a catch 22.

Thats about all OP, peace out.

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What hurdles can you warn me about other than prohibiting eating at a computer.

in greece netcafes are really popylar because people cant really afford an expencive rig, maybe if you do it, do it in a poor area

You'll hate dealing with kids. When I said annoying zoomers, I was talking about the 10 year olds who play fortnite. Those types are unbearable. They like the way most retro games look, but they hate playing them because there's actual goals. They don't want that. They want shit like Minecraft or Goat Simulator where there's no real goals (so they can't lose).

Thanks for convincing me further that gen xers arent the market.

Again you're literally just guessing. Successful businesses look for a demand and fill it. They don't just sit there and guess if there's a demand or not. You need to do your research. What you're doing is speculating, not investing and typically you don't speculate on brick and mortar businesses unless you already have a shit ton of capital to toss around. I assume you are planning on getting a business loan or something which is literally the dumbest move you can make in speculation. Maybe it will work, it probably won't though and also a lot of schools around here (not sure where you are) aren't in areas that are typically zoned for commercial anyways. Most schools in the USA from my experience are found in residential areas next to typical neighborhoods. The meme idea and the fact that you're banking on fucking fortnite still being a thing by the time you finally get your shit together and find rental space is laughable enough, let alone theming your business out of flavor of the month memes to appeal to kids who aren't even in your age demographic and you are absolutely going to be out of touch with to some degree unless you literally hang out at an elementary school all day. I'm thinking you'll just look like the equivalent of a boomer trying to relate to the kids by talking about pokemanz go

OP would literally have to weld everything to the floor otherwise all the basketball-Americans would clean that place out in a day

OP I strongly suggest you do your research on how much it’ll cost for a gaming license to be able to host all the games on Steam etc.

The first one is that people WILL eat and dirty it all.
Don't let kids use the computer to pay later, 95% of them won't pay and you'll lose a customer.
Always keep track of your inventory and income/expenses (I sometimes do that half asses and I regret because at the end of the month I have to do that at once, so it takes a long time).
Use MoneyLover app to keep track of your income/expenses and Monefy for your personal life.
Buy headsets with removable p2p cables or you'll have to buy new headsets every month.
Never EVER use a glass front door that stays closed, people won't even think about opening the door and enter in your store. 2nd floor store is also a no-go.

AGHHHHHHH FUCK YOURE RIGHT

But from my years in the gaming community, the current trend of gamers today is that they are trending more toward games with a SOCIAL ASPECT

We crave interaction with other humans.
That’s a fact. The most popular games are social.

What is the start up cost v how much capital you have?

The 'sexy'/'fun' businesses don't pay as well as non 'sexy'/'fun' businesses.

This is one of these businesses, its never going to make you rich! I could be fun for a while though

I used to own a cyber cafe.
Instead of prohibiting eating at a computer, I sold cup noodles (that instant ramen in a cup where you just add hot water), all types of chips, cookies, crackers, sodas in cans and bottled water.

I also allowed customers to make orders using a chatbox in the taskbar, which will message the cashier up front, and it'll be delivered to them while they play, all prepared (i.e. cup noodles with hot water already added, and a complimentary plastic fork with it) without them having to get up.

And prohibited outside food.

Instead of going out for a snack after a long game, they would instead stay for MANY hours, playing game after game while snacking.

Soon I added a small cafe (where they could order lattes and frappes). Some still went out to eat "real food", so I added frozen microwaveables.

More than half of my income came from the food sales. And even just adding that increased the length each customer would stay by like a factor of 5.

That said, the advent of smartphones and online gaming on home consoles still killed me.

The only other cyber cafes I know that survived were located near schools.

I’ve got around 10,000 in savings.
I don’t know about cost.
PCs would probably bring me down to 5000

Yeah which they can play literally fucking anywhere. They don't need to pay to go to a fucking cafe like a South Korean when they can literally sit in class and play battle Royale games on their mobile phones

there used to be a cyber hub in my city that was ran by an older asian couple that was basically a second home to me and a lot of friends. they started off with probably 20 computers, then expanded and bought 20 new pcs and used those as premiums. we went between the ages of 13 and 18 very consistently. don't get me wrong, partied way to hard for that age back then, but we would also take half of the location every week playing cs:source and BF2...
fuck I miss that shit...

Where are you from?
PC's will be cheaper if you buy used parts, that's how I did (I opened my store with $1300) (financed by a guy from Jow Forums cuz I didn't have a dime at the time).

I am in the dentist now, when I get home I'll post some pics.

Wow these are amazing insider tips.
The mind of a gamer is quite simple.
I guess the right type of food is the secret.
Thank you.

open a retro arcade with pizza and a good selection of beer where people intend to spend an evening
most will spend their time on board games with friends and their money on alcohol

check out tonton club in Amsterdam

Yeah but a place to make friends/hang out with friends who enjoy the same type of game is what gamers really want.
Like put it. The experience makes it all the better.

Either way gaming is bigger than ever and growing.
It’s a big capital to invest in and the experience of it is what really entices me.

So what, this obviously can work if you put it in a 24-hour style big city
You can also make it like those "pod" hotels

op should just rip off this concept -

youtu.be/MtdupS0gRt0

10k...How long of a lease are you going to have to sign? You know that you will have to accept personal responsibility of the commercial lease right? how much deposit/monthly rent do you expect?

10k will be gone before you know it! I would look at starting some sideline bizs before you put your 10k in something that is going to pay min wage or less! Think of all the hours your going to have to do!

dont you guys have phones???

You'll go to prison when your customers use your internet connection to get prostitutes and download bad things you absolutely do not want to have on computers you own.

I’ve thought about the offering a place to sleep method, but Americans are fucking slobs.
The less maintenance the better.
And there’s probably permits to allowing people to sleep in an establishment.

aaaahhhhhhh
What about constant monitoring.
What about console only.
Doesn’t ever business with pub wi-fi have to worty about this?

>maybe offer streaming classes
Jesus, don't.
forget the business idea. just buy 10k link and be done with it

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No you won't, especially if you keep records of who used the computer, and when.

Yeah, none of this has been researched.
This is all just something that’s been brewing in my mind diring my wage slave shift.

Even if I fail I’d still like to try.

I used to make deliveries to one of these places. Until happened. My god, the stench. The few females there were just as nasty as the dudes, and the place was always packed. Neets used mommy's money to order pizza, but not to tip. You'd essentially be paying their rent for them, because a lot of them will stay until you kick them out. This one was never closed, so I imagine some never left.

you will have fedoras jerking off in the booths

But OP wouldn't.

Oh yikes...
Well I don’t want to focus on the pc crowd anymore whatsoever then.

I don't think those have actual beds they are just like cubicles with a futon pad and a pillow.

You could probably get around the laws just put a time limit for certain hours or something like that.

>console only

What, SNES? Modern consoles have harddrives and internet, fren.

Fuck booths.
No privacy in my domain.

But it’s literal torture to use console web browsers other than wii u’s

Tables for Warhammer and MTG.

I’m still not convinced not to do it, other than avoiding pc gamer appeal.
I still feel like it would be a meaningful experience to have a place where people can make friends playing couch co op where I sell over priced food and drinks.

Life finds a way.

I’ll check back in the thread later today to see if I can be convinced that the other crowd(console) is a bad market.

Parental controls.

How about rig maintenance?

I wouldn't market it to zoomer/fortnite generation, simply because you personally have absolute no attachment to that demographic. You remember reading about these CEO's making absolute shit decisions and then alienating their customer group ? This will be you. Also do you really want to spend all day catering to some fortnite kids ? When you try to built your own business it's absolutely essential that you enjoy what you are doing otherwise you will want to kys two months in.
I would try to go after adults who want to spend an enjoyable evening after work. Make it more of a bar type setting combined with computers being available. I myself would like to do LANs again with my old friends. But not everyone still has a rig, then we would need enough space and go through the hassle of setting it up. Way easier to just use a business like yours.
By using the bar type setting you could maybe also filter the "disgusting neet" type of people that will undoubtedly show up.

The GameStop near me has magic the gathering nights on Friday & Saturday. Those faggots seem cleaner than the gamer neets. Plus the spend a lot on snacks. Could make money off of them.

damn its still the first website design right? :]

Blood from 1997 was recently rereleased with multiplayer support. I'd play the shit outta that in a lan party setup.

Yes.
lol

That's not why Minecraft is fun, bro. Legos have been around for a long time and it's the same concept. "Getting a high score" on the "final level" is way more gay than building cool forts and being creative. Minecraft is literally just building forts which is something boys almost instinctively do.

That being said, barcades are a good time.

Everyone middle class these days has the money to own a gaming a PC so you will just end with nasty and poor people.
All internet café have closed since at least 5 years here.

If I had a place like that I would open a bar with ttg and board games, if there is a campus around just go there and distribute tickets for a free drink to get people there.

Overheads and initial outlay can be large

This. Asia is little different but here in states of cafe has turned into gang activity/drug deal place. Lot of popular ones places closed due to shooting or bad things happening there

Maybe that's the problem with the younger generation, they don't even build shit. They just play in prebuilt worlds. Hell, most I've ever seen my 10 yr old nephew do is build a small basic cabin before getting bored. But he also spends more time watching YouTubers play Minecraft than he does playing it himself.

With stadia you'll be able to play any game on your fucking tablet or phone. Nobody cares about gaming cafes anymore.

VR might be a market because most won't have it at home. The problem is how to keep it hygienic. Ain't nobody willing to use it after some greasy fuck.

Afaik Lego was less popular than superhero figures before the internet. So that didn't really change.

Maybe in the states, here in germany lego was huge.

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Good idea but open it in Japan :D

at least make it a pc bang where everyone has their own little room. if you're in the bay area, for example, you'll be rich in no time.

>nerd rage
>start pounding fists on keyboard and such
>vibrations move the pc overhead ever so slightly
>eventually make it edge
>fall on gamers head
>kills him
>get sued for your entire net worth

Imagine /v/ but irl and even younger.

An absolute fucking nightmare. Put it in the "floats, flies, or fucks" category. Not only a lot of moving parts, but moving parts getting slammed by little metal balls continuously.

traphouse means drug house

>/v/
>going outside
>playing video games

Nah.

>I also allowed customers to make orders using a chatbox in the taskbar, which will message the cashier up front, and it'll be delivered to them while they play, all prepared (i.e. cup noodles with hot water already added, and a complimentary plastic fork with it) without them having to get up.

This guy niche's

I hope you're okay with losing money.

Who in the fuck goes to a gaming cafe nowadays? I think it's a better idea to build some sort of gaming hotel where people can rent MICRO-"apartments"(small sleeping areas), where they have their own computer and bed. But there's a public bathroom and public kitchen to make it cheaper for you.
I think that would blow up in today's neet world.

I sponsor tournaments at my friends gaming lounge, he makes decent money. He does get a lot of the younger NEETs complaining about venue fees, but it gets packed. He also has it an 18 and up rule because he got tired of parents dropping off their kids and using it as a daycare.

I want to open one up.