Gf graduates college and enters the work force as a full time wage slave

>when will the normies wake up?
>No my love you can't stay home and raise my kids. I'd rather we pay for a nanny.

Shameful

t. boomer

Oh no you're a cult member

unironically cringe&bluepilled
she's giving you the BIGGEST "i will be your wife if you provide for me", and you parrot jewish propaganda back at her
this is why many of the people around here unironically deserve their shit life. talking a big game about being "redpilled", but cucking out when push comes to shove
glad to see there's a whole bunch of replies with more sense

>You either need to incept the idea of her not wanting to be a stay at home mom if that's what you want
I thought it was pretty clear he was investing the idea of her WANTINGA to be a stay at home mom. Women hate gender roles until they can't have them anymore and have to work.

t. never worked in his life, had a gf, paid a bill.

user is convincing his girl to choose sterility out of fear. Sad. They might make great parents.

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LOL calm down Bros she's a 22 year old girl she doesn't know what she wants. Most of what she said here is parroting me, I've been slowly red pilling her for years. I make good money for my age and we probably could survive on just my salary and raise a child, but quality of life would not be to the standards she would like with all the bullshit traveling and shopping memes. If she wants that, she has to work for it.
Of course I'd rather her be a stay at home mom, but I can't promise her that now because she'll give up too quickly because she thinks she doesn't have to try.
I also don't think I should be taking advice from the same people on here who keep posting >tfwnogf

lets get real for a moment. I you have kids with someone, for what reason would you not want your wife to stay home with your kids? give me one good reason? I can give you a great many reasons why her staying home is the ideal. for you...for her....and most importantly for your kids. So what's this really about OP? you jealous of her role in that kind of relationship or something. kek. fucking pushover

AHAHAHAHAHA

Marry the fuck out of her and pump her full of white babies lad. She's a keeper.

Money, you'll know that when you move out of mommy's basement and reality slaps you in the face.

A girl can work partime when kids are smol and work fulltime when kids are big. Im sending my woman home when its breedingtime.

More kids is actually easier, as older sisters/brothers automatically take care of the young when raised well.

she sounds as dumb as OP desu. already having accepted defeat without even trying to make her dreams real. this is not a big ask, she can figure this shit out easily as a women.

She's an actuary retard. Her aborted fetus would score higher on an IQ test than you

I know OP is a retard but this guy is a maniac and will self destruct very soon. It's a pleasure to follow along tho. Also he's still drinking it's so obvious

scroll up, I'm the guy supporting a family of 5 while my wife takes care of the baby. I know all about it. you faggots want to believe something is impossible simply because making it reality is hard. I busted my ass to get to where I am now, coming up from 0. already fucking made it cunt

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So how was the 70s Gramps?

You can survive off one income in Oklahoma. The median family income is like

Youre a fucking retard cuck
Women want male confidence over everything else
Theyre happiest when all of lifes decisions are made for them and they get to spend time making things soft and pretty
Stop thinking logically and start thinking like a woman
Feels before reals faggot

Making money is a meme. Passive income is what you want, and investing properly will give you plenty.

The unscheduled life will be the most productive in the coming days and you falling for the wage cuck meme is shameful.

>but muh travel
Put 8 kids in her and you won't have to worry about travelling as you'll both be too busy to bother with meaningless wanderlust.

>She's 22 she doesn't know what she wants
Bullshit and irrelevant she is wants you to create a family with her. Women start drying up so you need to do is early. Of course it seems you only want a single child if even that. If you aren't going to give her children stop leading her on.

This. Op is a massive faggot.

It's not that I don't want her to be stay at home.
I would if I could but I can't unless I move, which I've seriously considered for years. I've run the numbers. I make 65k which isn't bad at 24, but cost of living where I am is so big that more than half of my after tax salary would go to rent, and then bills+food would leave me with less than 500 dollars a month to save. With a baby, that 500 would probably be spent on the kid. We'd never be able to buy our own apartment or house and we'd forever become slaves to the landlord jew.

I want her to have a sense that life sucks and you gotta grind in the beginning. If crypto takes off enough then for at least the first 5 years of our kids life I want her at home. I have a lot of things planned. It's just you can't tell a woman your plans.

Being an actuary does not make you immune to becoming a sucker

Why is he a maniac and will self destruct and why do you think he's still drinking? Genuinely curious.

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Blame the other women for pushing house prices up! Now every cunt has to work to afford the average family home!
Yey feminism!

true

>it's too expensive here in SF to raise 8 children
Move retard.

>if crypto takes off
You should do what is right regardless of whether it takes off. Stop being a cuck and embrace the day.

there's literally more opportunities to make money now. you've got the internet at your disposal
most anons are that meme with the nigger and the backwards cap: you're given every tool to succeed but you manage to fail
the world is only harder for failed normies with no initiative who shuffle their feet through college and expect life to magically work out
cut the porn, the video games, the anime, the drugs... and delete your meme folder about a fat guy in plaid that's going to bring the 4th industrial revolution and make you rich, while you're at it. start working for yourself instead of against yourself, fag

>I want my wife to understand that Life really sucks and is horrible before I give her children.
>if she ain't tryna kill herself I'm not tryna put it in

Yeah sure. It's possible, not in the west, unless you inherited money or you have a $350k job. In which case you wouldn't be posting on a filipino junkie reporting forum.

>delete your meme folder about a fat guy in plaid
No

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I like how she thinks being a stay at home mom means she’s not cooking and cleaning at 7 after a long hard day anymore. Kids require a LOT more energy and time than any job throughout the day. They are more fun but way more exhausting and you get way less time for yourself. Then at the end of the day when they FINALLY go to sleep at 7 or 8 you can clean up your house which they’ve gone through like a tornado, then make yourself dinner because you probably didn’t have time to eat while feeding your kids and worrying about putting them to bed. Then maybe you can shower because you are not likely doing that beforehand because you wake up at the ass crack of the morning with your kids. Then you have about as much energy as you’ll need to watch a couple episodes of a TV show before you go to bed and do it all again the next day.

Being an actuary and getting to dump your kids at daycare or whatever for most of the day? A fucking breeze.

This whore is in for a rude awakening if she ever gets what she wants.

jeah just be at work 60 hours a week and let your wife raise the children alone
fucking brainlets dont realize that their kids also need their father, not only be present but DOING stuff with them.

OP, provide for her the first 2 / 3 years, that's when the baby really needs the mother, then let her work part time. if you are hardly at home and hardly doing something with your kid your kid will become shit.

>Woman wastes 4+ years and at least tens of thousands of dollars only to decide she just wants to be a housewife

Looks like you wrangled yourself a complete retard OP

He is paranoid and is accusing people of trying to kill him. Most of his bridge burning is actually his own fault if you look into them. Watch porsalin's documentary on owen benjamin and the latest video by revenge of the cis. I still like him for his social commentary but he's a 115 IQ at best, struggles with simple physical concepts and isn't that talented as a life-long pianist player. t. actual pianist with probably less training

I want to be a stay-at-home dad.

I'll do everything a woman does, but I'll add Ill eat her pussy everyday when she comes from work. I love eating pussies, playing with kids, helping them with their homework, clean and cook.

You are reasonable
t. someone in your situation, but 4 years older

Get her to help you FIRE before you’re both 30. Definitely possible with crypto and entrepreneurship. Then have a kid. That would be ideal

excuses
excuses
excuses

tldr OP is a weakling faggot and his family will be forever cucked because of it

That's what I've been pushing on her for years. I've been telling her early retirement, grind hard now while we're young, keep expenses low no frivoloties, I even got her to invest in crypto she has her own coinbase account with like 25 ETH, etc etc. Ive been talking FIRE for a long time, and I've been talking about loving to a cheaper state (NC or FL) for years even when she was against it.
Most people in this thread don't understand me or my future goals except for this one guy My only problem with her, and the reason I'm not letting her think she's going to be able to stay at home just yet, is because she's a little lazy. She's very smart (no student loan debt because of full scholarship) but lazy. I can't let her get complacent. If she leaves me for a richer man who will let her become a Desperate Housewife then so be it. I couldn't compete with that anyway and probably ended up dodging a bullet

Yea op you're a Lil bitch boy. You're woman will def start considering other chads from here on out, you're next stupid argument\fight could be the last.

I told my girl she could be a stay at home dog mom, then upgrade to stay at home real mom + dog mom after we get out of our current commie lovi ng shit state and move to coast.
Here's the thing, I'm not even rich, far from it

She is and will be a dumbbell around your neck. Being a former student/actuary means shit when it comes to making passive income. Your choice.

LOL nah. But I'm curious what will make your woman stay by your side when she realizes you can't keep your promises?

They never do their part. They want to be taken care of so they can just fuck off all day and I want AMAZING SEX.

They never, ever keep their end of the deal going so what happens is: you end up a slave and they a parasite

your an idiot dude. just cause you make minimum wage, doesn't mean that's all you can get. set your own rate and only work with people who respect it. I work closer to 30 hours a week if we're honest...hence why I'm on this shit board in the middle of the day.

Lol here's the other thing, she's recently became fuck you rich and she's watched me do nothing but the best I can for us for years now..

Lol its cool op, I'm just fucking with u. I've told her the same shit before with the same thought u.. u have to get a taste of the real world to get ahead...but here's where ur wrong, u should tell her exactly why she should wage it for a while and should tell her ur goals, so u both are on the same page

I've done exactly that over the years. This is far from our first conversation about the future. I have a pretty specific plan. She knows that once we have a kid at least until the kid goes to school around age 5 she's staying at home. I could also say I'm doing the best I can but 65k a year in a city where 1 bedroom rents for 2-3k won't cut it. That's why I want to move

The thing is all of our talking is useless, in the sense that she follows me like a good little puppy in every respect. All of her ideas now are parroting mine. I've been red pilling her for years, she literally wanted to be a strong independent office worker who lives in the most populous part of city with max 1 kid before she met me. Now she's flipped the script completely and wants a comfy suburban life 1000 miles away with 2 or 3 kids, all because of me.
I'm not too worried about it, but I'm not going to let her think she'll have it easy so she gets complacent.

you are not a man, kys faggot

Not true at all what are you talking about

based chad

Takes out loans for higher education and wants to stay at home now..

Sounds like You dodged a bullet to me.

actuaries have some of the least stressful jobs there is. you're just assessing risk by crunching numbers.

t. cuck

She was on a full scholarship, not a penny of debt

That's what I told her. She just hates the idea that shes going to be staring at excel spreadsheets for the next 40 years. Kind of like all of the threads on here about people hating their wageslave jobs. We talked about jobs she would want it sounds like she wants to be a schoolteacher or a secretary, something like that. Seems like a waste of brains to me

It is in my city now, I've run the numbers. I'm trying to move, we'll see how it is if we get to a different state

Wtf bro you got a waman that wants to do the actual waman thing and you're not gonna let her? Make a mommy outta her retard.

Read the rest of the thread. I want to but can't right now, we don't make enough money. I wish I was a nog so I could pop 6 kids in her and have the government pay for all of them

I fucking loathe this catholic atmosphere so god damn much.
Go rape a nun and force her to have an abortion already, faggots.

I feel sorry for u americucks
In Germany no one has to work

Can't even imagine wanting a waste of space of a person leeching off of your effort while you live paycheck to paycheck not being able to enjoy anything anymore and I'm short-sighted as can be, you people aren't even that, you can't even see 5 minutes into the future, enjoy beating your wife I guess

Have both of you work until you have enough for a really solid house down payment then stuff that womb of hers with your vril. Then if things get tight she can maybe work part time and give the baby to your parents during that time. younger brother who I always thought was pretty inept at life and works as a fucking comic book artist of all things managed to save up $45k to put down on a house while having a baby. If he can do it anyone can. Yes, our nation's wealth is being siphoned out from under us but that just means those of us in the know have an even greater imperative to do the needful and raise the next generation of SS officers.

Life is so simple kek

Figure it out OP. Make a plan. Try to create a situation where she can be a stay at home Mom. Don’t swat her with a newspaper like the downtrodden cuck you are and tell her no. You’ll be back here sobbing and woman bashing in no time when she leaves you for someone with a soul. You eternal wagie.

Seriously. Ridiculous.

I'd never let a woman be a housewife. Soon as you let that happen she can act like a piece of trash and she has you by the financial balls.

Let her take off a couple years of work if she has kids but other than that make the woman work. All you anons have probably never been in a decade long relationship.

Put her at home and pump her full of babies right now. This is what she's begging for. The fact that you've found a woman that wants this is a fucking miracle.
Have babies now then worry about gains more when they're in school. The longer you wait the higher the chances are of having birth defects/genetic problems as her eggs age. She's in her prime breeding age now. user, Jow Forums is about recognizing opportunities and capitalizing on it. You're gonna blow this opportunity lad with a woman woman that has ideals that that aren't that easy to come by these days. Just be up front with her about the shopping and vacation memes and she'll be ok.

Yup that is exactly the plan. Live at home with our parents while working full time for 2-3 years to save as much as we can, then try to move to a low cost of living state and put down such a large down payment that the mortgage is negligible.

See above. There's a set plan in place, we've talked about a lot of things in the past and there was more to this conversation.

It's not a miracle and I didn't find her like this. I made her. Ive groomed and slowly red pilled her since she was 18. I've been feeding her bits of biz and pol wisdom. Before me she was a stereotypical blue pilled socialist loving caring for immigrants wants to live in the hipster part of town important office job white girl. Now she wants 3 kids, suburban life in a nice white neighborhood hates blacks Mexicans and other parasites, of which there are way too many here.
It's all part of the plan. 22 is too early for kids tho

You deserve to lose it all OP.

user pls.

>youtube.com/watch?v=4-ZbBYxCuYQ
>Kick a female with unambiguous video footage of this 8 months ago
>be still alive and standing
Why is the west so cucked? Something like that would end with the guy being crushed into a pile of unidentifiable flesh anywhere else.

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Actuaries make like 200k+ a year. Why doesn't she work for 10 years, invest the money, then quit and start a family? She could live off the dividends and get a lower paying, less demanding job.

>Thank you feminist movement!
Turns out women dont know what the fuck they want after all. When will these women realize they have a biological drive to do exactly what she wants, and even if the jew poison got to their minds sooner or later their instinct will kick in.

this isn't a redpill you soon to be cuck

Fuck all the trannies and beta soiya women apologists in this thread user. The bitch got exactly what she wanted, turns out though what she thought she wanted was a construct. Just like the gender wage gap.

Rural Midwest friend, still a reality here. If you can find a job making 50-60k you can support a senpai, granted you won't have two nice cars and a mcmansion, but it's still doable without going hungry or anything

They really don't, entry level she started off at 70k, with about 6-8 years experience she'll be making 100-120k. Only the top directors etc with 20+ years are making 200+
She's just bitching because she's lazy. Also 10 years from now will be too late she'll be 33 I don't want no autists. I want to put a kid in her at 27-28 the absolute latest

What would you have me do, tell her to quit her job if she's 2 weeks in and doesn't like it, I'll put a baby in her this month so that 10 months from now she can be preoccupied while I slave and spend 100% of my salary on barely surviving?

When I first met her she was one of those strong independent women. If she was still like that I would have laughed. But she's not like that because I completely reversed her thinking with carefully planted red pills. She wants the stay at home raise kids thing cuz I told her that's what she should want.

Owens a crazy man and uses christian talking points to steal your money.
He'll say some good christian things, then say he's going to enjoy peoples suffering and he needs your money, which totally isn't worth anything!.... but give it to him anyway.
He also manipulates his audience by talking with first person pronouns.

"G-GUYS, YOU HAVE TO BE READY TO MURDER MY TROLLS, I'M FUNNIER AND SMARTER THAN YOU, YOU DESERVE TO BE FUCKING KILLED AND NO ONE WILL MISS YOU"
-good christian boi 2019

try hamish patterson for a decent christian on youtube.

WTF everyone giving "redpill" advice are actually betabucks.... never marry! if you do make her earn it. she just graduated and joined real society and already wants to quit. life ain't easy and she's tryna use the pussy pass to get what she wants. she's a quitter and you don't want a woman with that attitude. nothing is stopping her from quitting on you. you're young, don't settle. all these cucks telling you to knock her up and keep her at home are betas, most of whom are probably taking care of the milkman's kid

>tfw you will never have it this good

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>I thought that's what she should want
>then tell her she can't have that now
Well you've done goofed. Just tell her to hold of on that until you guys get your finances squared. Don't let her go past 25 without children though, trust me.

>She wants the stay at home raise kids thing cuz I told her that's what she should want.
The cluster-b is off the scale. OP is just manipulating the woman for shits and giggles and to intentionally induce pain.

if a woman can't work to support her man and provide for everything he might desire, it's just a piece of meat, not a real woman.

>Everyone calling OP a chick for not letting his gf leech off of his hard work.
Wtf I thought this was Jow Forums.

>western men in a nutshell

Not at all. The ideal goal would be stay at home permanently which is what I told her and she wants. Obviously it's the best case scenario but it's not feasible right now. I'm not going to promise her the world now, what's she going to think when I fail to deliver? She will get a small portion of the dream but she has to help me get there, she has to earn it.
If she wants to be stay at home then she should be working hard now to save extra money for later when she's not working. 100% relying on and expecting me to provide everything in this day and age is ludicrous. When the baby comes she will be off work. Until then she better work her ass hard. She's been in the real world for 2 weeks and already wants to quit. What am I going to be raising not only a baby but also a 22 year old child?

>unironically cringe&bluepilled
>she's giving you the BIGGEST "i will be your wife if you provide for me", and you parrot jewish propaganda back at her
LOL. Getting married and committing for life is a benefit to the woman, not to the man.

The only time I would let my future wife to become a stay at home mom is if she was creative, had an etsy store, or was an excellent cook and started a blog and had ambition to book down the line.

Biz is becoming more reddit tier by the day.

>The idea that a family can survive off of one salary went out in the 70s.

True but there is still ways to raise a family on one salary, one just has to move to a cheaper non pozzed area like the country and live frugally. Get chickens, start a garden, get a goat for milk. Your girlfriend can take care of it all while you do your job making money.

People like you is why the birth rates are plummeting and shitskins are taking over, it’s why white women are going to them because at least they’ll give them children. Ugly ass racemixed children but nonetheless children which all women want. It’s ingrained in their DNA.

Why don’t you have her work part-time?

>LOL calm down Bros she's a 22 year old girl

Prime breeding age to. Hol shit OP if no larp your are pathetic and she will leave you no question if you do not give her what her natural instincts demand