I have been in LINK since the ICO. I did a lot of the research and even made some of the huge initial shill texts talking about Gartner and the API market. I truly believe LINK is destined for success, but I am selling all of it for FTM.
I got absolutely JUSTed by the bear market and I only have 50k LINK left, even by most optimistic price estimates it just cannot ever be enough to make it. There won't be enough capital inflow into LINK to pay for the API calls, even 1000 API calls per second won't generate enough to give LINK a 10 billion dollar market cap, much less 100 billion.
FTM has an aBFT consensus algorithm, this alone is enough to propel it to a mcap of at least 1 billion, that is a 20x return vs a maximum 5x I could get on LINK. It's not how I wanted this to happen, but it's the only choice I have. Maybe if I had 100k or 200k LINK then that would be enough.
What exactly do you mean by ”making it” if 50k link is not enough? At least you’d easily be a millionaire
Asher Cox
good move, just hit the bottom
Jaxson Turner
Making it is 1 million after taxes.
That means LINK would have to hit 40 bucks. That can't happen, the tokenomics won't work. Using amazon API calls as a frame of reference, one million calls = $3.50 cents.
Let us assume a scenario where the market cap of LINK represents a profit to value ratio of 8x, which is very generous since crypto is very volatile and fast moving. For LINK to hit a market cap of 8 billion, assuming people are willing to pay double per api call on the basis of the value of decentralisation, you would need a quadrillion API calls per year, or 30 million API calls EVERY SECOND.
>but LINK will be collateral for SWIFT payments
Literally nowhere has anyone in the LINK dev team ever said this would be the case, the idea of having an entire crypto used as collateral for transactions of FIAT is extremely flimsy and decades away from serious adoption.
Luis Long
This post feels like you copy pasted from the waruso. I am pretty sure you actually did that.
Anyways, to BTFO you.
Derivatives. Now KYS swinglinkie.
Grayson Ross
sounds copy pasted, user kys if you can't make your own opinion
Hudson Anderson
>Cringe
Thomas Wilson
Bad fud is bad
Wyatt Allen
>FTM is technically superior
see: betamax vs vhs
Blake Hill
>he actually thinks technicals have anything to do with altcoin mooning welcome to the party newfag. load up and cash out before mainnet launches next month
Hunter Smith
smart move fren, this thing only dumped today because of the binance US news. it will eventually pump up to 700-800 satsoshis followed by a correction to 600-550 satoshis approx for the mainnet pump which will happen in Q3
Caleb Lopez
LOL Constellation has superior tech and at a 4 million market cap. Why the fuck would you buy FTM you humongous retard?
Jeremiah Garcia
HAHAHAA PAJET BACKING ON LINK MOON MISSION AHAHAHAHHAH
I have been in eth ico link since ico and i can tell you FTM is FUCKING SCAM
I literally can tell scam on sight after years on biz paying yt shills, talking about anything but project in shill pastas, scammy gooks but fuck all that...noone adreses cons of dags when shilling dag projects (we know blockchain ones) and that is big red flag on ftm,holo etc.
If fucking aBTF can work if they can controll growth rate of network whitouth fiasco adn coordinators ill jsut buy your bags at 10x price and will still get rich lol...but I kinda doubt it...
I'm 50% on link and 50% on quant (40k link 8k qnt), can you tell me what you think of quant? considering to go all in link but quant dumped today and link pumped, it seems legit to me but I'm a Jan 2018 fag, so I missed neo and eth and xrb and never experienced a bull market, so I really want to know the opinion of an oldfag.
Parker Taylor
>bags aren't filled Your FUD is transparent. FTM founder and CZ literally give eachother handjobs on a daily basis. Not sure how you think this won't moon. Fucking half of crypto is a scam. Even if it's actually a scam, doesn't mean you can't make money. >brainlet
do NOT buy link at these levels. You'd have to be an absolute bainlet to buy now. It will correct just like everythng else. Biz make you think Link is the only way to make it. It's just autism. Plenty of projects to make money in.
Evan Foster
Yeah I just bought.
Grayson Wood
nice, I got really lucky at 305, good luck man
Benjamin Baker
This.I only have 200k Link which is nowhere near enough to actually make it. All these Linklets with 10k stacks singing about 1k eoy are starting to piss me off with their propaganda.
It was a joke and they are actually believing it and causing FOMO in newfags preventing the dump. I need to make it to 500k before mainnet for fucks sake. Link is only going to $5 max. Right now I might make 1MM before tax on that, but tax will take a big chunk out of that then inflation will fucking ruin me over the next decade.
Even if I chuck the 1MM into a dividend stock that pays out well and I get 70k a year of it, it's not enough to beat inflation unless I basically live in poverty as a neet and keep my wagecuck job in the meantime so I don't have to sell any retirement Link. In 10 years that 70k a year will feel like 20k a year. You need a minimum of 2MM, but more likely 3MM to make it.
The upper predictions for Link where about $60 but that was made during the bullrun of last year, and it assumed that the overall crypto market cap would still be expanding and BTC would go on to 1MM a Bitcoin and that we would be in a full blown crypto FOMO hype bubble when mainnet came out and we got our price singularity.
All of that isn't going to happen anymore. The singularity is cancelled. Now we will have a slow growth to $5. And the sad but ironic thing is most people on this board will hold from 20 cents, to $5 and then hold all the way back to sub $1 again because you all believe the 1k eoy memes, and just like the retards who held BTC and didn't sell at 19k, you will do the same with Link at $5. Looking at the current charts depresses the fuck out of me when I know I only have 200k Link, nowhere near enough to make it.
At best I will have 1-2 sweet years, and then return to wagecucking after that. But it will be worse because I will have tasted freedom and know what I am missing out on.
Brayden Stewart
Fucking sell pumps and buy crashes. Jesus Christ Holding is a meme. NOW is when you sell Link and enter something else that's crashed like FTM. Sell the FTM pump and CONSIDER re-entering LINK. Token loyalty will cuck you. Guranteed.
Sebastian Harris
FTM shills still going strong huh ?
Cashgrab projects will stay cashgrab projects. Stop shilling that shit and move on to an actual legit project. This is already $60M marketcap for fuck's sake.
Robert Ramirez
$FTM is going to top 50 this year. Fucking KEK if you hold Link through the upcoming pullback and refuse to ride another OBVIOUS pump. I don't give a fuck if you don't buy FTM. But for christs sake. You will be a pink wojack next week if you continue to hold LINK
Noah Gonzalez
Not gonna read any of that. But i just want to say poop and kys.
Justin Cook
I already told you yesterday, I don't hold LINK anymore.
Just stop shilling doomed projects, there are many good projects with same or lower caps you can accumulate.
>1hr43min from 4 months ago. How about you just tell me what's the takeaway from this interview. He did an AMA on discord last week and cleared up a lof of fud which you probably didn't listen to
Sebastian Long
smart move
FTM has lot's of good shit coming up and just had a correction >dubai news >mainnet launch >staking >partnerships >low marketcap >2/3 of the supply is already destributed >good transparent team with daily news and updates about tech CZ knows good projects and he lists them on binance for free like Holo and Cosmos and now Fantom
Jaxson Bennett
You're ignoring speculation completely which is like 95% of the price
Lucas Cooper
Meh let these guys fomo at 2bn market cap.
Henry Wood
I don't need to know more. It started as a cashgrab and Andre Cronj thinks he can salvage it.
If you think he can steer a $60M marketcap project then go on, piss away money at FTM.
Matthew Kelly
And the the last 3rd is for node rewards.
Cooper Rivera
I 've already doubled my BTC stack this month on FTM. Pulled out and will re-enter very soon since i think the bottom is in. CZ is a big supporter of this project which is all I need to know.
Gabriel Gray
He did manage to steer it. Main net is pretty well ready and they already have massive deals done up. So funny reading the desperation for lower prices or the total lack of understanding
Carson Brown
This. FTM has great tech but that's not what will make it moon. CZ will pump this shit to the moon and back just because that's what he does. And I'll get rich off it.
Jordan King
Dude shut the fuck up FTM is an absolute shitcoin that already pumped and I guarantee you will be fomoing back into LINK within a month except with half as much as you had before. Dumbass.
Xavier Martinez
Whatever, keep doing what you're doing ! Consider me impressed if you manage to push this to $80M.
Just want to warn bystanders that this might end up like their previous shill LTO. Granted, this has CZ in it. But it's still fundamentally a shitcoin.
Daniel Kelly
>see: betamax vs vhs
vhs wins thx to porn; we have to add porn to LINK: easy win make LINK/porn meme then
Jose Scott
> REEEEEEE FTM will allow for cross chain asset custody. It will act as an ultra fast interchain transfer and consensus protocol. Sending native BTC assets in under a second.
Link is good but many of you have not realized the significance of Fantom yet. It's ok you will learn
Aiden Stewart
you know after watching all these andre interviews and listening to him on discord I think that this guy is here for the tech and not for the money and if he says that the project is doing great I will believe him
Evan Nguyen
OP you made a mistake in making this thread, only because if you want to actually talk about another coin you should NEVER mention link in the original post. Because of this you immediately put linkies on the attack and now whatever potential this thread had is wasted
Lincoln Morales
>he assumes everyone on biz is holding Link The fucking absolute STATE I bought and sold LINK in 2017. Haven't touched that shit since then. So many other projects pump as you fap to sirgay memes. You neets waited two years to get to where you are as smart traders sold pumps and bought dumps. Enjoy your trip to
Brandon Ortiz
I believe he is sincere too. Actually I really like him as a human, he is super honest and that's quite rare in blockchain. I just don't think a project with him as the only driving force is worth nearly near $60M.
Just a year ago he was showing deep misunderstandings about blockchain technology. Clearly he's improved but still.
Blake Ward
well he says that he's not even close to being their best tech, they have a bunch of people according to him that are very talented with good ideas, well grated I don't know much about technicians in this market but I don't think that he's just being humble
Hunter Sanders
You're really underestimating how much CZ can pump any coin he wants. Look at the current market caps, literally 90% of the top 100 are shitcoins. Warning people about it being a shitcoin means absolutely nothing in this market.
Wyatt Rogers
He CHOSE to join fantom because what fantom was working on complemented the research he was doing at SIKOBA with his buddies. It made sense for them to combine efforts. He got rid of bad apples, fixed their funding issues and pushed biz dev in areas that would guarantee funding and accelerate adoption. What will be reveed about the Dubai deal will put a lot of doubters to rest. Any doubt that remains will be purged in late August, early September with mainnet release.
Look at their NY Fantom demo with Andre that's the 80 node test net.
Ryder Baker
so much samefagging in this thread. FTM pajeets are pathetic.
Isaiah Davis
your COPE is pathetic Hold LINK to zero you fucking neet
Ryder Rogers
>you are only allowed to post once in a thread wut?
Adam White
Unprovable claim and not addressing any facts. Pure cope. Doesnt matter. See you in top 10 by eoy
Tyler Diaz
Disregard the textbook LINK holder. Doesn't know what "sell for profit" means
Isaiah Reed
Calm down pajeet, LINK is going to $1,000 EOY. Don't you understand?
Ryder Lee
Yes. I've seen the memes fucking every day for the past year and a half. I'm aware of the singularity AND the rampant delusion. wasn't it supposed to be $1000EOY in 2018 >MEGA KEK True Linkies will literally never sell. Looking forward to the Sirgay memes in 2020 and beyond
Carson Green
Lol
Mark my words...no mainnet.. Ever... Rc20 token.. Forever... Fucking newfags
Kayden Anderson
Have you not ever seen projects transition to mainnet retard? What makes that so incredibly unlikely to you?
If Andre l said that development is doing great and they're just doing fine tuning and mainnet is soon, why the fuck should I doubt it? Am I better off listening to the advice of some retard on biz?
Jeremiah Stewart
>typical LINKIE mindset You're in crypto to MAKE IT, right user? Ride pumps and sell Buy corrections/pullbacks. Repeat. Token/coin is irrelevant FTM is prime for a pump and tech is irrelevant. Buy now, sell at a top and move on. Easy.
Ian Mitchell
Lol I wish I would’ve went all in at 80 cents. Roast me biz.
Connor Scott
okay I marked your words, gonna make fun of you when it gets released next month
Ethan Powell
>but but Andre sad it guys... Right.. Guys?
You tech illiterate retard Yes i dumped ftm for eth and link allready lol Thats not the point Binance pump is done
Jordan Kelly
Kek how is believing someone, based on their record of being honest, related to being tech illiterate in any way.
Caleb Green
Good investment thesis bro
1 honest guy leads bunch of gook scammers to make big things or he gets scammed by them?
Yeah..
Lincoln Fisher
Do you know how much problems nano have? Security and exchandge implementation? And its fucking dag that moves 0s and 1s..
Do you know why dags are not thing? This guy gets it
Aiden Wood
The whole basis of your argument is wrong.
FTM had great devs, and Andre is a great leader and lots of research on aBFT.
Sometimes all you need to do is match good leadership with talented people. Single great leaders DO turn businesses around.
But it's ok, I wont have to listen to this kind of retarded bullshit much longer. Defintely not by the end of summer anyway
Logan Walker
Nano doesn't have an incentive to secure the network they use dynamic POW.
Fantom uses POS. Completely different
Also doesn't mean that because DAGs have had certain drawbacks that these have not been fixed
Camden Watson
Grate devs?
They fucking c/p-ed hashgraph 100%
Fucking Andre sad it like 5 times lol
Wtf?
Adrian Campbell
user do you live in the past?
Ayden Anderson
Sure, explain how the copy pasted proprietary, non proprietary code?
Explain also why did Andre say that he thought fantom had some great things going for them and that he decided to join them because it complemented what he had been working on.
Many projects would be happy to have Andre, why did he decided to join Fantom? If he isn't motivated by money but by passion for tech, why would he waste his time with fantom if he regarded the project so badly?
Joseph Smith
Non open sourced*
Easton Sullivan
Fixed?
Fixed???
Are blockchains fixed and can scale to 3838373tps while every node haves to agree?
Can dags scale whitoit coordinator, not brake under growth pressure and be secure 100% of time.. You know things important for fucking smart contracts...
Ever wondered why EVERY dag is still testnet years after... Only poc out there is nano and its dumb simple in functions, it brakes, its not.
scam or not, ftm will 5x at least one more time over
Liam Adams
so much cope in one sentence, kek
Jaxon Gray
Everyone shitting on ftm just wants it lower to buy more. Fucking highest security, similar to us grade avionics. Fastest and scales. You bet we're hitting 1 bil mcap. Math is your friend.
Jordan Mitchell
why are you retards still responding to linkies? Ignore them and let them return to their own threads
Levi Gutierrez
>durrrr cope cope cope the calling card of a discord pajeet. do you retards even know what cope means? your shitcoin is bleeding like a stuck pig and has already lost most of the binance gains. meanwhile LINK continues to crank out huge partnerships and integrations nearly on a daily basis as it continues its year long bull run. explain how I'm the one coping here?
Adrian Edwards
just like link is losing the "google partnerships" gains
Evan Kelly
Bought some ftm maynee
Michael Martinez
>leaves the collateralization out of the equation, despite it being where the security of the network comes from. Kill yourself.
Caleb Walker
I am not in ftm anymore but you are clinically retarded. Your arguments are all reddit level fud memes.
There are so many new drawbacks on DAGS but you havent come close to mentioning them.
Just stop because you are ironically shilling ftm as ypu are providing easily refutable points which is making the project look good.
Joseph Sanchez
So many salty stink linkies, can you guys go back to acting retarded?
Linkies are more fun when they are being themselves.
Xavier Jones
I have been with satoshi when he was coding bitcoin in hes basement, and i can tell you right now that link price will max at next year, around $10.
you gonna need 100k stack to make 1kk
Michael Jackson
hey, all you people that just bought FTM
do you guys honestly believe this thing will pump? if so, what are your sell targets?
I bought this thing at 450 and I doubt this will ever reach that level again for me to even break even, and I'm considering just selling the loss, what do you guys think
Connor Powell
its at the absolut botton now, just do some ca and enjoy the ride
the 10x from here is almost guaranteed before the end of the year
Julian Nguyen
>I truly believe LINK is destined for success, but I am selling all of it for FTM. Good. Don't want brainlets on the yacht party.
