Poker

Is online poker or offline poker more profitable in your experience

Side question
Anyone have any good Roulette systems ? And do Roulette computers work well ?

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>If my real odds are 36-1, but I'm paid 30-1 can I make it?
Jamal.....

Ive played poker kive and o nline and neither is profittable.

because u suck

i suck yer mum

Poker can be played profitably but finding good venues is part of the job. Some tables can't yield profit in the long run.

Roulette can't be played profitably. You can always go to the wizard of odds site to check what each gambling game can yield and what the perfect strategy is if it has been solved.

t. used to live off poker.

Offline poker is not profitable it's mostly just hobby to spend time. hand rate per hour way tooo slow to be profitable, other players needed to be drunk as hell and dumb money to you to be profitable with that hand rate

Same goes for offline poker tournaments, many pros know it is impossible to be profitable live tournament player long run, not enough tournaments and hand rate too slow. even íf you are year around in vegas you will not have enough tournaments and hands even at highest witnessed win rates. Yes there are live winners who win big time one or twice and then run on that money 10 years but stats show it is simply not profitable in any ways even for highest live roi players in the world

If you play only on sponsor money or sponsor buy-ins then sure go ahead

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I mostly agree, but there are live games that are so crazy you can turn a huge profit. I've been in live games with 8 absolute donks playing almost every hand at the table playing like 3/5 blinds then straddling and restraddling every hand. You have to be able to stomach/handle being around seedy people tho.

Yes if you can find that kind of games it might be an exception

Nowadays like wsop and such everybody plays decent i guess and hand rates are ultra slow so it's just not viable profession, like online you play in one hour same amount of hands in you play live in 40 hours or something ridiculous. Most live players are too dumb to realize that and they think they are good and profitable because of past one or twice big cashes that are likely influenced by luck more than anyhting

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I feel the urge to gamble on some poker games. where can do this with BTC/ETH and no kyc shit?

So online is the way to go then ?

Live poker can be extremely profitable depending on your skill level and the table dynamics. A lot more patience is required for live play since you obviously can't multi table. The player pool is generally much weaker as these games are hosted at casinos where alcoholic degens reside. You must however be comfortable with people reading your face and reactions.

Online is generally much harder for a multitude of reasons. There are bots, you can't read your opponent by looking at them (although there are timing tells), there are generally more skilled players. Online comes down more to theory IMO.

IMO start playing live, play super tight and don't bluff calling stations and you can print money. Just be rolled enough to stomach the occasional set over set.

Thank you for the advice
My uncle and my grandmother were both amazing at poker and gambling in general true high rollers , so im hoping it’s in the family
I e been studying literally hours every day , strategies and all that so I’m certainly trying to get a grasp of how to be good in the long run with it

The BOTS online you mentioned have caught my interest as well
Is this legal ? And if so do you know if people are making money with these BOTS, do they work ?

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I’m also reading a lot about this lower hand per hour thing
What is that all about

You need an above average iq. Read "kill everyone" to learn how to beat online tourneys.

About the hands/hour, live poker is slow, maybe 20 hands per hour. You can easily get no playable hands for a day. You can play 6 up to 20 tables at a time depending on what suits you and your skill eventually online, and use a HUD that keeps and shows statistics of opponents so you don't have to watch them all the time.
You can then play tens of thousands of hands in a relatively short time, which also shows a statistically valid idea of your true profitability (in live poker you might never know).

20 hands per hour live is a lot, I mean.

Live is slow as molasses, around 30 hands per hour. Considering as a good player you will be folding your hand most of the time, this can lead to boredom very quickly. This is why it's good to become acquainted with your neighbors.

Online is 80-100. And since you can multi-table, the skys the limit.

I recommend only playing live on the weekends or some weeknights, otherwise you will be in for a rude awakening when your table is infested by old nits.

Damn, that’s some wild shit your all saying
So live is bad then ?

What is this HUD I can download and all that stuff you explained
All this information is really fantastic

Nothing we could ever tell you will be better than experience. So go try live 1/2, bring $600 and buy-in for $150 bullets and see how you fair.

I paid 50$ or so for holdem manager back in the day. It is a visual overlay showing player statistics + it saves all hands so you can study them later.
Playing without a HUD is playing blind online.

It's not bad per se but very slow and very dependent on the game quality. Some live venues take ridiculous amounts of rake off the table making it impossible to profit unless your opponents play extremely loose and bad. That's why I sad game selection/finding the correct venue is part of the job.