To UK anons who graduated in STEM:

To UK anons who graduated in STEM:

I'm graduating soon and im looking for jobs, is £24,000 a good starting salary if you're working outside of London? This seems to be the most common figure for jobs which actually tell you what the salary is instead of "competitive"

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sounds good for wales

>is £24,000 a good starting salary
lol europoors

That's $30,000

How much do you pay for health insurance again? Wales is cheap AF! Leave your state Mutt!

Lmao I make more than that as an English teacher in Japan

>How much do you pay for health insurance again?
$150 a month lol
how much do you pay in taxes again?

well isn't japan really expensive to live in?

That's a pretty good starting salary in this shithole of a country yes

£24k is decent for a first job. Don't stay in your first job too long, just get experience and move on after a year or so.

Whatever you do don't become a teacher, there's a reason the retention rate is so low (a third of new teachers leave the job within five years).

t. teacher

Only exception is if you get into one of the public schools' teacher training programmes, there's a huge STEM shortage in teaching and a public school teaching job is pretty cushty (nice pupils and you have fewer teaching hours, although they can expect substantial extracurricular involvement, especially if you take up accommodation which is something some public schools offer to single staff).

>working outside of London
don't do this at the start of your career. spend 5 years building up your career in london then move up to retain high salary

$44,000AUD?

Jesus Christ what the fuck. Move to Australia and get a better paying job you dense fucks.

I am an uneducated oaf and I made $85k or 46k GBP last year.

living costs in aus are far higher than the uk (outside of london) and salaries reflect that.

> Doesn't realize that Brits and burgers generally pay similar amounts of tax, and in some cases burgers actually pay more.

Depends, is that before or after your 80% taxes?

Wow burgers are brainwashed.

>United States
>Gross salary £25,000
>After tax £19,925
>Tax rate 20.3%

>United Kingdom
>Gross salary £25,000
>After tax £20,279
>Tax rate 18.9%

And that includes free healthcare.

>free healthcare
>"FREE"
nothing is free in life user, i'd rather have european style health insurance than the shitty NHS

um sweetie you forgot mandatory social security payments and that most burgers make a lot more than 25k bongdollars

>not knowing your employer is forced to take a huge share of your income to give to the state

moneyadviceservice.org.uk/en/articles/tax-and-national-insurance-deductions#do-you-need-to-pay-income-tax-and-national-insurance

In countries like Denmark, Sweden and the Netherlands people pay over 30% of their income in "insurances" BEFORE income tax. They do that because you'd riot if you'd realize that you're being taxed this much.

>employer takes a cut
>income tax takes a cut
>sales tax takes a cut
>wealth tax takes a cut
>consumer tax takes a cut
>municipality tax takes a cut

For every pound you make, you get to spend maybe 20% of the actual purchasing power generated. Bureaucrats gotta eat too! So slave away like a good goy.

24k is a great start if you can see a career ladder on the company you're joining. Best thing to do is talk to the higher ups about where you can get to.

Brits can have that too if they want it? Private health insurance for private hospitals can be $50-60 per month.

> Shitty NHS

Yeah man, sure is shit to be able to go to any doctors or hospital for any issue, receive quality treatment and then never see a bill, never even know how much it cost, never worry about co-pay, deductibles or anything else. Just walk in, then walk out.

Yeah, because removing any barrier of entry will surely not incentivize dumb people to flood the offices with nonsense. It's free!

Burgers are literally debt slaves lmao, cattle for them.

NHS is still dogshit, old brits come in France and Belgium because waiting list are between months and years when you need something like prosthesis.

Are you telling me that enslaving doctors and making unwilling people pay at gunpoint for the healthcare of people who live unhealthy or come from 3rd world countries ensures that nobody intelligent wants to become a doctor and that the end result is an overburdened system nobody likes?

>Brits can have that too if they want it?
private healthcare in the UK is mostly delivered by the NHS monopoly

£24000 is an average starting salary, it's just slightly above minimum wage. Also, it's actually £19000 after taxes so take that into account.

>Just walk in, then walk out.
Yeah, walk in after waiting 2 weeks minimum for an appointment lol, truly wonderful.