How do I make large amounts of money without leaving my house...

this is true but you probably have to prove yourself by going into the office 9-5 for the first year or so, and then next year you can negotiate working at home. that's what i did.

I’m 23. I live in reality. Nobody will hire a remote worker with no professional exp. you’re out of touch with the professional world you retarded child.

I bought a shitty 30 year old apartment for 60k, spent 8k fixing it up a bit. Now I have about $900 of passive monthly income from rent. Just work a shitty job for a couple years and buy property.

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I think if you're a skilled programmer then you can design an app, website or something. Not sure why you need to wage slave for a company. But I don't know anything about programming.

Maybe 10-20 years ago it would've been that easy.

yes of course, let's just build and app or website and somehow get all our bills paid, lol

Obviously you're not going to design a pajeet tier app that serves no purpose. But if it's a useful app then maybe it can generate income. How stupid are you user?

I unironically tried this. It's next to impossible to get traction without a marketing budget. Hundreds of new apps get put on google play daily. Your app is just gonna get buried

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Whatever "useful" app idea you have, it's been done 50+ times by now

Dude you must be trying to cope

thats where freelancing comes in, the suckers are the people paying you not you putting the time into an app that'll go nowhere

There's no (Guaranteed) way to do it. There are some methods that work sometimes. You can scam people. Pretend to be a girl and hand out pictures to entice betas. It works sometimes. You can dick around on Amazon Turk and make Minimum wage if you're desperate. GPT sites like swagbucks pay out pennies for surveys/games/video tasks. Pretty pitiful way to make money, but if you need to buy some vidya or something it can work. Transcription sites pay ok but goddamn I fucking hate doing it.

Other than that. You can run a website and shill products. It's a highly competitive field with a start up cost associated with advertising. Youtube accounts can pay out quite a bit, but you need 100,000+ views consistently. If you're a gamedev you can try Kongregate. A good game can bring in advertising revenue. The difficulty is actually making a good game by yourself as a NEET. I've tried so many fucking things to make money online and crypto is the only method I've found any success in. I should say I FOUND success in it but now I've lost all my money. I'm hoping for the golden bull run to sweep me away from wageslavery but it doesn't look good.

Honestly, it's hopeless. losers like us aren't gonna make it.

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This is simple but not easy.

1. Learn a skill people will pay for then sell it.
When you get big enough, hire other people to do the work/sales/outsourceable stuff.

or

2. Affiliate marketing. Sell someone else's ebook/supplement/whatever the fuck
Learn paid traffic then copy the best selling product and sell it for higher margins.

buy bitcoin u fucking retards and learn how to 10x long it on bitmex

I've had ideas for apps but I don't know wtf I'm doing. Obviously if you have a good idea and it hasn't caught on yet, then your idea means something. Everything worthwhile was thought up originally by someone. Don't be shallow user

upwork
fiverr
linkedin
Jow Forums

Brazilfag?

These are dead and gone. Don't buy his bag.

Airdrops.. LOTS AND LOTS of airdrops.

Like this one:

t.me/rad00chernobyl

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Thanks for the reply user. I already wage slave for a decent income (probably 120k this year). But it's getting harder and harder as I age. I like my house. I don't like going out in the real world.

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Wtf stop spending and invest. You can retire in 5 years of you crypto well

This would be possible if I weren't also retarded. I have too many bills. Big family to take care of also. So I can't take too many risks

Why'd you make a big family if you weren't loaded?

YEAH HOW DARE HE PROCREATE

I'm not sure. I don't have any regrets about making a family. It just means I can't take big risks. If I had my time back I would have focused more on building a business and savings. I don't have excuses for doing it as I did. I've always had a good job at least.

How did that happen ? Would you mind to breakdown your budget?

get your OSCP and hack remotely. I’m at 150k/year as remote penetration tester.

if you wanted to use the knowledge to go blackhat, I’m sure you could make way more. I’m too old for that shit tho. I’ll take the 150k a year without ‘lookin over my shoulder.’

only if you are a native english speaker tho. i cant stand conference calls with ppl i cant understand.

I don't need to get too into details. Usual stupid shit. I have a car payment. And I have a student loan for a couple more years. I literally don't spend money on anything I don't need. So I don't have a budget. My budget is: don't buy stupid shit. So just essentials. But that can add up to a lot. 2 cars, insurance, gas. I have no WiFi internet, cable, don't own a tv. No computer. Phone cut down to basic plan. Etc. I'm able to save some money though. Just not sure how I can use it to leverage myself a full time income

This sounds cool, does it require much programming knowledge?

That wasn't my angle at all. Just curious. All I did was ask a question and you're hysterical. Nice lol

Makes sense. I get it.

not at all. ppl in the biz who want to retain their value will tell you it does, but it doesnt. i had not programmed anything since visual basic when i dove into OSCP.

if you can google and find your way around linux, that is all you need to get started. pentests are time compressed, so you dont have time to write some custom script or exploit. you scan and google known exploits.

best job i’ve ever had. was rdy to kill myself over wageslaving before i went into OSCP. now work doesnt bother me in the least. i even get to do cool shit a lot of the time. if you dont know shit, then start using linux in a vm, and take the free offensive security course on metasploit. after that sign up for OSCP and just go balls deep learning. its not that hard user.

How user, how? You must have some professional pen test experience, right? No way you just lucked into a remote gig online? How does one even freelance pen test online? It's so specialized. Any help is appreciated.

Damn, thanks man. I'm in a similar spot wageslaving.

be electronic music producer (me)
live off streaming income

This seems promising. Thanks for the lead user

honestly the OSCP is so rare still and theres so many orgs who want to hire one, that just getting the cert is enough to get a remote job with no exp. Just say you were previously a “hobbyist.” this is codespeak for “i was formerly a blackhat hacker but it wasnt my profession.” nobody will press you on it b/c they just think you were some rogue hacker and cant talk about it, and they need you to work for them, so they dont want to hear more.

By my estimate, there are maybe 15,000 OSCP holders max worldwide and probably 10x-30x constant job openings. That is a low estimate. Most companies have taken to hiring people with basic help desk and bullshit IT experience, then paying for them to get OSCP. Honestly I could go on. I have wanted to share this info with anons for a while, but figured if i started a thread it would get shit on or deleted for being related to hacking. I wrote a few papers on how to do it tho. If you really dont mind putting in the time and effort, it is very achievable. If enough anons show interest, I’ll start a thread in coming days about it. Maybe on the weekend. other than that, leave a protonmail or something and i can send my how-to guide for getting from zero to remote pentester. I’ll check back in a while.

do you have a learning path you could suggest? like what is good to try and learn or do during this self guided learning?

you are a nice guy

trading/research with no computer sounds like bad idea

Thank you user. I am going to seriously look into this as a career path.

As someone with only a very basic knowledge of programming, how long would it take until I was job-ready?

19 years old here

have worked from home since 15. dropped out of higschool to do SaaS memes and worked out ok. moved out at 17

i built a pretty large portfolio of personal projects over past 2 years (not your shitty risk game tier shit) and am getting job offers for about $80k a year remote work. this is me getting lowballed

keep in mind i have no formal education and taught myself making habbo emulators

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I have money. I can just go buy a computer lol

how did you approach that convo with your boss? I've been at my company for about 1 year and want to work remote too, but i am worried if I bring it up they will think I am threatening to quit or some shit and hold it against me.

thanks u user really gonna look into this

Thanks again man, I'd be interested in any papers/places to find jobs and future threads.

Protonmail is bizthrowaway5

fragcoin at gmail

thx

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buy SNTVT. wait until july. that easy, fren.

interestoscp at protonmail dot com

You are doing god's work user, thank you and you can email me here: [email protected]

How do you go about this exactly? Can I put everything I make on all the services?

fuck yeah dude, russellweaver at protonmail dot com

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gifty89 at proton thanks man

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thanks

Dumpsterfire2 @ protonmail

as i said, very little to no programming is required. if you have some knowledge that is a bonus. if i had to guess, for someone who doesnt know shit, and i mean nothing, then a year is a safe estimate. it took me 3-4 months to complete OSCP, while working a separate 50 hour a week job. i finished, updated my linkedin, and was SWARMED with job offers instantly. i had a remote job within 3 weeks of completing the cert.

to the rest of the anons replying with protonmails... i got you anons. i will send out my guide in the morning. i am very glad to see so much interest. as a caveat, i am more than willing to help anyone who goes down this path. i love hacking so its nothing to me to help. i can provide notes, learning references, and 1 on 1 assistance when you get stuck. i will do this because im an oldfag and anons are special to me.

its not “easy” but its not that hard anons. you can do it.

anonyman12 protonmail dot com

thank you friend

You're the best, dude.
Quick question though -- I've got two months of absolutely nothing ahead of me before I start school in the fall. I can reliably dedicate something like eight to ten hours a day to studying for whatever it is I need to study -- how far along should I be by 8 weeks in?

quackinmyshack @ protonmail

literally always wanted to do this

I didn't expect much from this thread but thanks man. Really appreciate you looking out for your fellow autists

me too

[email protected]

tryhardmcgee @protonmail

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if you dedicate yourself 8-10 hours for those 8 weeks, then you should be very nearly ready to take the exam. its hard for me to say you can pass in 8 weeks, without knowing your IT knowledge, but 8 weeks of that time dedication will at least make you nearly ready for exam.

you can help yourself by working in linux. install linux (any distro, maybe ubuntu for starters) on an old machine, or on a vm. use it for all your basic browsing and shit. but force yourself to work from the terminal / command line. if you dont know how to do something, google it. everything. want to shutdown? google how to do it from terminal. want to create a folder or new text file. google it! once you can move in linux, download kali. if you can move around in kali, you are fine to dive in to OSCP. it has a pdf and videos guide. you learn how to do everything you need.

again, i’m glad all you anons are interested. i got you

nice larp faggot

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>OSCP
pure cope

zx10qu at protonmail dot com

Much appreciated.

try harder

internetmaster @ protonmail

god bless

You won't get a $150k a year with a 3 month degree that anyone can get. Stop coping and lying to anons

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Thank you OP!!!

Mercenary122 at protonmail dot com
Thank you

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Thank you cool god

vellumdesign at protonmail dot com

thanks senpai

degrees dont prove you can do shit. degrees are garbage until phd. this is a cert you have to EARN, by passing an applied exam. you get 5 ip addresses as targets and your goal is to hack them and root them. if you can do that, it proves you can do the job, period. it is a major commitment. i have a degree in a different field and it got me nothing but debt. go shill /pol. We are breaking free of your chains.

euclydian at protonmail.com
thanks man

Being a freelance software dev requires a high amount of extroversion since you constantly have to be on the lookout for clients. The other option is working long-enough with a company that they trust you working from home.

I write down what I want to do on a piece of paper and put it under my bed and read it waking up and going to sleep every day for 21 days and then I get what ever I want, I told my friends to do this and they also get what they want. It has to be something within your reality or you gradually work up to tiers of quality tho, you can't just do this for insta-buxx, I already tried.

>always gets what he wants, most of the time regrets it after

This is good advice, especially now with the trade war going on, China and Russia are giving even less shits about their citizens hacking Americans.

Hook me up at anonalong @ protonmail. Thanks based user

You're coping hard. But continue to shill this bullshit if you want. Desperate retards will suck up anything

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Thanks man

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pls notice and guide me senpai. genuinely interested

I am starting a new gig in a few weeks but I am definitely willing to put work into this on the side out of pure interest. I have already been playing with linux ever since I discovered urbit.
devops199(at)protonmail(dot)ch
Please make sure to put ".ch" , I don't own the .com address.
Thankyou based OSCP user.

proxima.centauri.4243 at protonmail

Thanks brother

IJNharuna @ protonmail. com

Much appreciated user

Manycarts protonmail

Interested bbclassic3 protonmail
Thank you based user

so i was not expecting such a response when i posted. but i did say if enough anons showed interest i would make a thread soon. i would say that this level of interest definitely warrants that.

im glad you all showed interest. i will send out the guide in the AM since its late.

i will also start a thread this weekend, and it will be a general thread that i will post every weekend, so that anons who decide to pursue this path, have a thread here to ask questions, and eventually get and share job leads.

i will also check this current thread again in the morning, and add anyone who posts after to the email distro.