Is adderall, modafinil or related medicine worth the risk if I don’t have ADHD?
I want to improve my focus and energy for productivity.
But I am worried about all the potential side effects. I plan to use them everyday with low dosage; with occasional breaks.
adderall is absolutely awful for your brain long term and will slowly kill your baseline motivation
modafinil is fine though
t. taken both long term
Get vyvanse
smoke weed.
The ancient protocols work.
vyvanse, dextroamphetamine, etc. are all equally bad for your brain
Adderall will fuck you up. I’ve had to help get friends off it. It’s really brutal.
Fentanyl is great. I love it.
Can confirm adderall will fuck you up. Got a prescription years ago. Been off it for a year and a half and I still crave it as much as the day I quit. Dextroamphetamine therapy has a reversing effect but it’s won’t nullify it and it’s equally addictive.
What about ritalin? Thought about getting it for next semester, because I literally cannot concentrate in math classes.
I have taken modafinil every day this week so far. As a noob I would swallow 150mg - 200mg and fucking freak out, but a quarter of a pill (50mg) is enough to seriously get in the fucking zone.
Why not microdose LSD?
drink Gotu Kola. don't be a brainlet and safu your mind and body.
Because it is useless you fucking moron
>modafinil
lmao if you are wondering if that weak shit ever works then just drink fucking coffee, it's literally the same effect in concentration
eh it's the speedy feeling part of it without the full blown visuals not really useless
I found the absolute opposite.
Modafinil is like a worse coffee. Doesn't give any actual focus boost, just disrupts your circadian rhythm so as the day progresses you don't feel like it's getting late. Also makes you feel a little sick i find.
Adderall is good, not remotely dangerous. People are on it for decades with decent safety profile data, you taking a pill once a month to work isn't going to affect anything. That said its expensive and not worth the cost given it's no better than that 1 in 10 times a coffee hits nicely.
I know some people swear by coke for work but that is terrible for you and the price is x100 anything else.
Do this have any benefits if used only for 2 days or so. Going to exams and shit?
no it is not
Absolute state.
Getting some mixed messages here
Be very careful with "heavier" nootropics like that. DYOR , especially long term side effects. Take some green tea (good qty, no heavy metal shit in it) , hit your macros, and do mindful meditation + anaerobic exercise (if not prone to hypo). Boom, laser focus for almost free
Hugely, my dude. It's best for short term high work load situations.
This user gets it, don't waste your time with mod, it's one step up from placebo
Just kill yourself OP, you’re a waste of oxygen and energy if you depend on drugs to increase your productivity. Do something for yourself godamnit it’s people like you who are fucking up my country. Get the fuck out of here
Drink? Describe please. Only see in pill form.
No it's not. If you're saying this you've never actually taken any
This. I crush up a few 20mg adderall and some fentanyl in a spoon, heat it up, draw it through a needle and shoot it before I start the day
It doesn't permanently kill your baseline there is just an adjustment period if you stop taking it cold turkey. If you wean yourself off it 5 mg at a time you don't even notice it that much.
The motivation you have on Adderall and similar drugs is amazing and a lot of people take Adderall for so long that they forget what their normal motivation feels like. The motivation you feel on Adderall is nothing compared to your normal motivation.
dont start on aderall it's an ampetamine so is basically a weak version of speed or meth, it will fuck you up with long term usage
Modafinil is a joke compared to Adderall doens't even come close.
If you dont have add it won't help you, if you have add it still might not help you. it works good in 5 mg does for kids
It's been reliably found to be neurotoxic in any size dose. So no, actually, it does permanently deteriorate your baseline.
Some people seem to be either genetically low responders or have skewed their dopamine system to the point where it won't work to any appreciable effect. The finil family is capable of working, it's great for me though.
you probably want stativa
I don't give a shit about anything. Can adderall help me?
Speed is just Amphetamine. Most street Amphetamine is 50% dextroamphetamine and 50% levoamphetamine. Adderall is 25% levo and 75% dextro.
Adderall is only neurotoxic at very high doses.
No pill will do that for you.
damn
Yes Adderall will literally change your life. I started taking Adderall 6 years ago and went from a high school drop out to having a computer science degree and running my own business.
The only danger to Adderall is when retards abuse it to get high.
Modafinil has been night and day for me, but gives me the ragies towards family so I only take it depending on workload. No hangover or headache or trouble sleeping, and I notice a difference for 24-48hrs.
Have not noticed a difference between modafinil and armodafinil. I buy whatever is cheaper as long as it's a full dose (one needs 50-100mg more than the other).
Caffeine most other days gets me through with a detox day every 4-5 days.
Haven't tried Adderall, been prescribed it but addictive personality running in my family tells me to stay away (methheads, alcoholics, workaholics).
lol all this cringe faggot advice. OP needs some quality bromantane. make sure to get the good russian shit preferably powder form. the resulting alpha mindset will propel you further in life than shitty forced stimulants can ever do. good luck OP.
He's right
>but addictive personality running in my family
No shit?
Interesting molecule. Whats your experience.
just do equivalent meth doses orally. it's way cheaper. don't do it often. read this page for tips on preventing the damage caused by it nootropicgeek.com
OP modafinil effectiveness is genetically determined. Some people just simply feel nothing from it if. Fatclap mutt genes ITT are examples.
I have a 100% European Anglo-Celt and I can tell you when I take 50mg of Moda it sets me up for the entire fucking day. My thought processes are crystal clear, smooth, slight mood lift, no anxiety or jitteriness. I quit coffee and only drink tea for l-theanine now.
Adderall is for literal autists and basedboys who have mental deficiencies. Modafinil is just to give you that extra 5-10 IQ point boost with no sides. Adderall will have you crawling up the walls.
t. ex-stimulant binger
low doses of amphetamines are actually neuroprotective, but if you dose too low, (~1mg), it can sensitize your receptors and give you a semi-permanent stimulation that disrupts sleep. 5mg of meth is supposed to be the sweet spot for improving the brain without significantly damaging it
Absolute shit science mutt. I have no single relative traceable for a several centuries outside of ireland and modafinil is shit.
>and modafinil is shit.
for you
Your brain is likely not as sensitive to dopaminergic activity as others are.
Here's one: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
A wildly simplistic reading of that study.
>I’m a lazy loser
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Happy now? What exactly are you trying to argue - you have said that modafinil does not work for you. This is not a big deal and you don't have to keep arguing with people who says it does work. I am saying modafinil likely does not work for you based on your genetics, that modafinil's main activity is based on D2 and histamine activity in your brain, and your dopamine system is better suited for other stims.
Any long term effects?
I heard modafinil gives you rashes
Hyperprolactinemia
i took 100mg/day modafinil for two years straight with no negative sides. It's more subtle than other stims but will still give you decent focus and motivation especially when starting out
what?
there's literally 0 evidence to suggest that modafinil increases prolactin
20mg sublingual daily, weekends off. can do every other day because of exceptional half-life. keeps you on point but not wired, no real side-effects and well researched for decades. feel level headed and more in control. does somewhat keep your emotions in check, i no longer get stuck with them as they become an afterthought + reduced my ocd and overthinking patterns. my performance at work is improved and my trades more calculated. no problems drinking alcohol or interactions with cannabis. in social setting noticed conversations take on a more logical flow, a bit easier to lead the conversation. will affect creativity somewhat but nothing too bad (i compose music in protracker). consistent and reliable. hope that helped you out, fren.
The best thing about Mod is the massive shit you do half hour after taking it.
Neither of them have bad side-effects if you take them as they would be prescribed and don't be a retard trying to pull all-nighters on them
is it really that easy? i just take a magic pill and work becomes great
Adderall is perfectly safe to utilize long term if your baseline, neurological, faculties are compromised. Amphetamine works good for ADHD, for example, because folks with the legitimate condition are chronically low in dopamine at baseline. It’s a dosing game where you’re just giving yourself enough of the medication to function like a neurotypical individual. It’s mostly normies abusing it chronically that end up permafried, but they shouldn’t have been on to begin with.