Why do people say Prostitutes dont count?

>It's not about how good or bad it is.
so, youre saying that quality of the sex doesnt matter? does that make sense to you?
>you hve to PAY to do it
isnt everything akin to paying a woman deep down

roastie
>you have be 6'2, have a big dick, have a good face, talk to me, iniate conversation, be funny, THEEEN ill let you fuck me
hooker
>you have to give me $600n then ill fuck your brains out

The majority of people Ive heard with that opinion have been poor.
>you know man, id never pay that kind of money for sex when you can get it for free man, id have to work like a month for $200!

i want to fuck 18 year old cosplaying asian girls.
not 25 year old white old hags.

There is no such thing as free sex. Why would a girl have sex with you if she truly got nothing out of it?

thanks! im sure i will enjoy it a lot. more than having sex with ugly girls who pity fuck me.

but i want to be able to say i lost my virginity online without men saying it doesnt count.

>Yet i keep hearing that prostitutes dont count?
You're hearing this from people who don't realize what's really going on. Sometimes it's short-term, sometimes it's long-term with an exclusivity clause, but it's always prostitution.

This. Don't worry about the opinions of these loser godfags everyone bangs hookers including athletes, musicians, politicians, etc sometimes you just want to fuck a hot slut and then go on your way without any emotional bullshit. Go get laid OP. Also, depending on what country you go to you can probably get viagra and Xanax over the counter. Pop one of each and go nuts.

>emotionless sex
A good hooker should be able to fake the emotion. Just like your wife will when you get married. And just like the hooker, your wife is out the door if you can't pay the bills.

if you get the GFE it's pretty much just all the good parts of a romantic relationship

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thats what i thought. i feel like its coming from late 20s chad lites who can only score with old women their age and are jealous that incels can have sex with more prime pussy so they try to devalue them by saying the sex isnt real.
thats what i think too. i think all sex is payed for in a way.
a tall chad was born with looks
an uggo like me was born with money.
i want to forget their opinion. But i know that as soon as i say i payed a hooker to lose my virginity, that my fellow incels will say it wont count. that they think i have to lose it to some old old hag who pity fucks me for it to be legit

I live in Korea and have been with plenty of them. If it counts as me cheating on my girlfriend then it fucking counts.

Sex with a condom is shit and if you bang hookers you don't really have a choice.

Also you aren't getting the girl, you're purchasing her time, anyone can do that.
Sex with hookers doesn't count, but if it makes you feel better, by all means, knock yourself out

>i was even told by a femanon that spending $200 on a date with old used up gold digger would feel better than sex with a prostitute.
She is just jealous

are a while you wont even care about your virginity. It only matters because you're currently a virgin. Once you lose it, its meh

They are rationalizing their own failures and projecting them onto you. Don't fall for it.

>but i want to be able to say i lost my virginity online without men saying it doesnt count.
maybe it's time you learned how tell a lie on the internet and just tell people that it wasn't that you banged a hooker but instead some astrophysicist chick or something whatever the fuck you want to say

its like. if youre gf was in an open relationship and fucked other guys. it would make you a cuck. so i say it counts.
>sex with a condom feels like shit
so, youre saying a guy is a virgin until he does it raw? was your first time without a condom?

also, what if you buy really good condoms that was comfortable? what about all the uncut men who say that condoms feel better cause it stimulstes the foreskin?
>purchasing their time. anyone can do that
im paying $600 to fuck an 18 year old asian cosplay porn star. Are you saying everyone can drop $600 on a girl? i think youre too confident in how wealthy the average man is
>you hve to PAY to do it
isnt everything akin to paying a woman deep down

roastie
>you have be 6'2, have a big dick, have a good face, talk to me, iniate conversation, be funny, THEEEN ill let you fuck me
hooker
>you have to give me $600, then ill fuck your brains out

it hurts. because i feel like ill ascend past incels but sex havers wont accept me anyway
well if i was going to lie. i would just say i was sex haver already

OP, the only people telling you that are jealous women and cucked men that turn their entire paycheck over to women via joint accounts and still get emotionally manipulated. Baby prostitutes. That are better at it and it's cheaper in the long run.

Bang, not baby. Don't do baby prostitutes. That's sick.

women are intimidated by prostitutes because it takes the one thing they have to control you with (their vagina) and takes the power out of it. you don't need women if you can fuck a prostitute for a few hundred bucks and roasties don't like that. why do you think girls on tinder put shit like "venmo me $5 and see what happens" in their bio. they want that power

yes this i hate it so much
i hate people who try to have power over me. it's always transparent and it's always annoying, no matter who does it. power playing is fucking annoying and i can't hang out with anyone who does it. the company of user is better than the company of someone trying to power play you.

Agreed 100%
Which is why I'm posting here instead of in bed with my girlfriend

Man this is pretty sad. You're so caught up on the labels. Will you have stuck your dick in a vagina? Yes. Do women want to fuck you? No. In practical terms you are still an incel virgin. No problem with fucking hookers but don't delude yourself.

>Do women want to fuck you? No.
welllll technically they do want to fuck the OP in exchange for currency

why does it matter for what reason the woman wants you
if you pay a girl $600, she wants to fuck you
if youre a 6'5 chad with a big dick, she wants to fuck you
if the guy had his $600 taken away, she wouldnt fuck you
if the guy became short and lost his dick, she wouldnt fuck you
both are shallow reasons
the value of sex is how much pleasure the guy experiences.

How is having sex with an 18 year old prostitute have less merit than free sex with a 25 year old hag? is it because the latter is free?

Only poorfags reject prostitutes. Pay a woman enough and she will be wet

Losing virginity to hookers is like completing Doom with iddqd. THAT'S why it doesn't count.

The difference is a prostitute explicitly does not want to have your babies, which is the entire purpose of sex.

except, the fun of a video game is the challenge of playing all the levels leading up to the ending, and the ending is just nice little reward, that doesnt make up for the complete whole fun of the game.
There is no fun with women. Theres nothing fun about talking to them, pleasing them, bending over backwards to deal with their bullshit- none of that (unless youre a cuck). the only fun that women can provide is sex; the ending. Sex is the ending to all that unfun bullshit. but with a video game, the fun is in going through all the levels to reach the end.

so no, doom is not like women

The ending is children. Sex is only enjoyable because you know you're on the home stretch.

>sex haver
kek oh no no no no no no no

>every time i have sex, i do it with the intention to have babies
the most retarded argument ive ever seen
>sex is only enjoyable on the home stretch
so, youre a closeted homosexual who doesnt enjoy sex, but wants to have babies anyway?

>i want to fuck 18 year old cosplaying asian girls.
Where are you finding these?

I'd say if you lost your virginity from a prostitute, technically you've lost your virginity.
But it's just not the same. It'd be like owning $1 worth of bitcoin and claiming you're a bitcoin investor.

>im paying $600 to fuck an 18 year old asian cosplay porn star.
How? Which one?

asia my friend. cant find this shit in shitty ass western countries.

I'm sure there are a lot of hookers in asian countries but cosplaying ones? Where would you find those?

In fact by having sex without the prospect of reproduction, you are behaving like a homosexual. You risk disease and destruction of your reward centers among other things. You are simply acting like an irrational monkey, acting on instincts that are actively unhelpful in modern situations.

That analogy sounds retarded user try harder

They count. Don’t listen to cucks and roasties.

they exist my guy. especially asia. many people have talked about it. (you can make them wear cosplay for you anyway)

This, roasties are mad that you don't want them

Can you get a girlfriend without money? No, fucking a gf or prostitite requires the same thing and that's cash.

Also all men in middle east and Asia get arranged marriage and have kids, does that mean it doesn't count? That's retarded logic.

I don't get you shitters and this new meme of "sex isn't for having kids" because it absolutely is.
The purpose of sex is for reproduction. You have sex to have children. People who don't want children or can't otherwise are different.
The reason why pulling out, condoms and birth control exist is to not have children because you are simply not fit or ready to have children because they are not only a huge responsibility but they are a huge financial one as well.
The end result of sex is and has always has been offspring in any naturally occurring case.

Just like you shitters and drugs. Overuse leads to a potentially destroyed life because you trade everything for your next shot of dopamine at even the cost of your life.

Of all the retarded shit I have seen on this site, this is but another one of the retarded cases where what is being said is just plainly false. I wouldn't be surprised if you're the same faglord who went to other boards saying that shit.

Good lord.
No hookers don't count because anyone can pay for one to say they had sex. You didn't work for it, you paid her. End of story.
If you went out and said you had sex before and they ask who, you can't tell them unless you want to lie your ass off and say said hooker was your girlfriend and heaven forbid anyone call you out on your shit.
Not only do they not count but they are not worth the health risks you face, no matter the age, no matter how many times they did it before. If you want young pussy and are still a virgin in your 20s, then that is just your fault plain and simple. Good luck looking for an escort that isn't an OP in disguise.

This thread is getting deleted anyway so I don't give a shit.

There is always trade to everything, although some have prostitute fetishes and it makes them complete. Even in marriage you still need to spend a great amount of time and money. So, overall, it counts.

>but i want to be able to say i lost my virginity online without men saying it doesnt count.
Don't let it get to you. Learn not to give a shit about what other people think. You are your own, it's you who owns your life. Who are they to say what should count and shouldn't count? Maybe you should tell them that the Holocaust doesn't count either because they're just animals like crows needed to be slaughtered anyway since they're an invasive species.

I don't like the "losing virginity to a hooker doesn't count" argument, because I do care about virginity in women for obvious reasons. And if roasties now start running around saying "I only sucked off 20000 dicks without emotional attachment, so I am still a virgin!"... yeah... no. Unless women =/= men in this regard. Although I don't know why I'd want to lose my virginity to a hooker anyway. I mean, it's effectively an object without value, Might as well wait/save the money and spend it on a reusable (VR) robot or doll... (which I think might also end up having more value than a hooker if AI gets decent a few years down the line)

Do nymphos count since they give free sex anyway and does not think of the man's disposition? Also this nympho is willing to take dog and horsecock into her vagina/ass

>Prostitutes dont count
In what regard? If they can't speak out their thoughts clearly they are retards or insecure retards.

If you can't tall what red flags are then you have no hope.

for incels, prostitutes count:
1) they allow an incels devoid with any experience with interaction with females to finally train how to talk to them - women hate talking to incels, even for money so this can hardly be done otherwise
2) repairs your sexual apparatus destroyed by horrid porn and masturbation habits - in both cuming and boner having ability
3) Allows you to interact with beautiful women that would be impossible to even talk to otherwise for the incels. Makes regular females finally seem human to him - and he will start to treat them as such.
4) destroys insecurity/scarcity mentality with women. the incel will not give that much of a shit if a woman puishes him away. He always can go to a prostitute to get his balls drained - not needy anymore

I don't understand this incel meme but having sex isn't a difficult thing to do unless they have ridiculously high standards.

I don't understand this "being poor" meme. Why can't just poorfags send CVs to 6 fig paying jobs? worked for me with little issue.
Can't even send a CV lmao. no wounder they are poor.

The point was not in the fun, but in the achievement. You managed to do something on your own, not with cheatcodes. Afterwards you may cheat all you want just for the fun of it, but until that time: It. Does. Not. Count.

I've seen poor and ugly as fuck neckbeard fatties getting a decent 7/10 gf, so there's no fucking excuses. If you can't manage, improve yourself faggot.

You don't expect to make a perfect run without dying on Doom on your first try if you suck at gaming.

>sex
>achievement
have sex

women are all prostitutes

Well, if you actually have to resort to hookers to lose your virginity, then getting laid without paying must be an achievement. And not a minor one. Fucking incels, I swear to god... Where's Adolf when you need him?

men are all retards

Who gives a shit how it's done. Stop putting sex on a pedestal

this is why all women are whores, because it just works.

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genocide is the answer to 99% of all problems.

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>implying you're spending MONEY, TIME and EFFORT while dating some retarded roastie so you could fuck her in the end of the day.

At least when you're paying for a hooker there's no illusion that something else could come of out this.
The most retarded comment i've seen in Jow Forums so far.

How about girls who pay just to get on top of me, girls who pay for my services, does that count?

I wouldn't fuck a hooker of you paid for it, you pathetic incel.

>virtue signaling this hard

Fucking hookers isnt wrong because its a pride thing or anything. Its wrong because they tell their pimp where you live. Prostitution is only okay if a woman is doing it as the business owner.

where??? do they make their own costumes or do you have to buy them?

It IS pathetic. Just look at it from my side. I'm 26, nearing 27. I'm a virgin. I keot this virginity for years, and then I'm just gonna give away, and PAY for it? How pathetic do you have to be to lose that way?
You just forced yourself to lose it. You lose it without the feeling oglf success, basically bowing down to the caprices a vagina. Man, it's basically the same as fapping, you cum, without feeling love or passion.
Rather kust use the money to make more money. More money means eventually a sexy gold digger would see your worth and love you while you have hot passionate sex.

>a sexy gold digger would see your worth and love you while you have hot passionate sex
lel

If you have to work a month for $200 you are poor as fuck.

Don't worry there are male hookers you can fuck too

>You won’t enjoy it as much if you know she’s only doing it for the money/status/power/etc
sex with a woman has never been had for other reasons

At least at that point, she fucks you because she sees that her children would be financially stable. She will definitely start a family with you.
Unlike prostitutes who only fuck you because its their job

Nobody's gonna listen to some corrupt lawyer who lost all his money flipping shitcoins.

>Unlike prostitutes who only fuck you because its their job
No shit, a lot of young girls these days are looking for fuckbuddies too if that's what you're after.

A gold digger doesn't need you in a marriage to do that. She will divorce rape you for it.
No woman will suffer an incel with no social skills for long, and rarely at all.

I'm not that desperate, despite being a 27 year old virgin. I would rather go though the usual bouts of hormone fueled despression than give my virginitt to a prostitute. I deserve better.
Oh, like you didnt fail in some trades? We all fail sometimes, doesnt mean we fail all the time. Please.

This. Women are not people and deserve no rights.

>he needs the government to make a woman subservient
The government should be able to fuck your gf if that ever was the case.

hookers dont count - sad for you user

prostitutes are the cheapest sex you’ll manage

>being vague because he considers having sex an accomplishment

>Oh, like you didnt fail in some trades?
Two days before btc crashed on January 2018. I stayed away from crypto except for link though. Thanks to my gains I accumulated lots of link so I'm set for life. You gotta move on bro, time to stop clinging to virginity and cartoon characters bro, think of your future nobody will take care of you if you stay single forever.

Sold two days*

I have a good chunk of link too faggot, now I'm just using the rest for literal gambling for the next 10x or 100x.
Women have told me she's not interested, there were qts who liked me, but I was too much of a pussy to romantically engage and a chad took them, and a woman cringed at me once.

I just suck at women.

>I'm just using the rest for literal gambling for the next 10x or 100x
>I just suck at women.
Not gonna make it.

>sex with a 25 year old used roastie who pity fucks me is more legit?
Because at the momento you don't know she is doing it for pity, and that's leaving the fact that there is almost no woman or woman at all that would fuck anyone for pity.