I'm about to enter the real biz world and won't have time for this biz. Happy to help any anons who are looking for direction, guidance, advice or anything about their careers or business
I'm a 30 year old boomer, AMA career advice
Do you get the coffee?
how do I become a millionaire in 3-5 years?
I'm going to bschool at a top program. I'll happily get people coffee - it's actually often a high power move bc it's such a 'thing' that it shows confidence to actually do it
Gonna assume you're starting from zero. As an aside I would say that it's great to have ambitious goals, but I think in general you're reach goals should be on a longer time-horizon and your short term goals should lean towards realism.
But to answer you're question I would work for 3 years making avg salary ~40k/year while living with the parents and saving a little less than as much as possible. That should leave you with ~35k. I'd say throughout that time have 20% of that equally in btc/eth/link, and have the rest cash, continuing to work and save for the remaining two years while waiting for a 30x opportunity in crypto to go all-in on, but not settling for anything but the right deal.
This is different from what you should do, however, as it's better imo to maximize you're chance of having 30m in 20 years than having 1m in 5 years, and those will be two different paths, with the second one infiinitely riskier.
I'm a project manager at a remote company making barely 6 figures. I can move anywhere and work anywhere in the world.
I have trade knowledge in perfumery and cosmetics. Thinking of going in with a buddy and opening a farm to harvest and produce a specific cosmetic product.
Would like to work for myself and dump this project management job. I hate giving away my value for nothing near what I am worth. I either give it my all and get paid not much in return, or put in little effort and morally feel dumpy.
I'm afraid to dump the job because I only have 20k in savings.
Do you recommend i dump and focus on this other project and let the thought of NEET-ism propel me into the next phase? Or continue working? Life feels very serf-y. Even though I can go anywhere.
Good luck mang
Big picture, you're doing pretty well for yourself in terms of your current position and opportunities and skills, so congrats on that.
So obviously a big part of your calculus in this decision is the likelihood of success of your venture, which I'm in no position to evaluate.
That said, my instinct is to lean towards having a more secure situation before going out on your own, both in terms of having more savings and ideally having income coming in from your next gig.
If there's a way to 'do both', that would be great. I absolutely would disregard any morally dumpy feelings about having your attention focused on your side-gig. That said, it's critically important to do your pm job well enough to maintain good relationships and get good recommendations when you do leave.
So, again, without knowing how viable your venture is, I would either a. meet minimum requirements to get good recommendations at pm job while taking advantage of remoteness to start your side gig simultaneously, or if that's too much to do at once then b. lean in to your pm job and go all in to adding value and ideally bottom-line profits to the company while you add more to savings, such that you get glowing recommendations going forward and ideally have great stories to tell to future employers/investors/network about how much you rocked it.
>30yo
You don't know shit about shit. See ya in 20 years.
bro the first problem here is you make close to 6 figures and have only 20k in savings?!
I make 120k a year and save like 45k a year, living in a very expensive US city. save money for like a year at least before venturing off to your own thing.
Also buy LINK then you can buy a farm in like 2 years ezpz
And just to add, I hear you about serfy-ness, but a lot of that I think is sort of the nature of being towards the earlier half of one's career. I see that as less an indication that you ought to switch what you're doing and more an indication of you should think about how to minimize and address those feelings, whether through adjusting attitude or letting off steam on a day to day basis or on a weekend vacation or whatever it may be.
Earn free bitcoin
Thank you for the perfect boomer reply to my post
Nice use of the top buzzwords in your responses. I always find it funny how people think these make them sound smart/educated. Fucking hive minded morons.
Fuck off cretin. Is that a top buzzword?
>3y with 40k living at parents and then you only have 35k
>???
Wtf have you done?
This was a hypothetical if you didn't catch that, but 40k less taxes is 30k minus ~1500/month living expenses = 12k/year. Sure if you wanna eat ramen and dirt clumps you could save some more
1. how important is actually performing in your job? the trade is that I receive x compensatiion per year if I do the bare minimum required to keep myself on payroll, why would I take a bad trade and over exert myself for the same or slightly higher reward, wouldn't that time be better spent on a self employment gig?
2. what is the purpose of holding cash when you can hold a lucrative investment and liquidate it for a better investment a few years from now?
3. Is it better to own 50/50 stocks crypto or just go all in on crypto since crypto has a better long term risk return?
1. Performing at your job is vitally, critically important to your career for a handful of reasons. Principally, you want to be able to exit with great recommendations and 2 or 3 persuasive stories about how you used initiative and overcame obstacles and helped the company. The best way to have those persuasive stories is if they are true and you lived it. Performing above and beyond your duties will also help you gain skills, prevent you from getting fired, and may get you promoted. It may seem like a bad deal in the moment, or that you're being unappreciated etc., but it's actually a great deal for your career, because having those recommendations and stories vs. not having them can make an enormous difference in not just your immediate next opportunity, but 2,3,4 opportunities down the road can still be having a positive impact on your career. With that said, that doesn't mean you can't work the system and use advantages that are available to you. Maybe once you start that initiative where you grow revenues by 15,000 and have established a good relationship and trust with your bosses, you'll find that they give you more independence and allowance and maybe you take some of your free time sitting at your desk to surreptitiously learn some coding language for your next job, or study for a test or certification for your next educational step. But yeah over-performance absolutely pays off in knowledge work.
2. It's better to hold the lucrative investment, you're right. But holding cash is a great way to manifest humility. Plenty of hedge funds/PE funds/family offices have ~40% or more held in cash. Sure they think the other 60% of their assets will be lucrative, but there is risk and there is uncertainty. And if they are wrong and those investments crash, then having the cash to buy them while they're cheap will be a tremendous opportunity.
3. I'm all in crypto but I have a large appetite for risk. Can't give you a great answer for this one.
I'm nearly 33 and have no career or business experience. I have no friends, because adult friends come mostly from one's job.
I have enough money to never need to work, but I'm crippled with loneliness and anxiety, and every day just spent alone with nothing to do and no one to do it with.
I crave the experience of a normie job, some kind of office shit where I get to use my brain, which is just ACHING for stimulation. I'm actually quite intelligent (top of my school and university year) but had a weird time in my 20's that meant I never went into the world of work, and at my age with no experience it's basically impossible.
It looks so fucking fun.
you see all these pink wojacks posting? yeah, the grass is not greener on the other side
You're intelligent and wealthy.
You don't need a 'normie job', you already have one. You just need drive; to get in touch with the benevolent conqueror within you, and then you'll see it. In the middle ages, all a man needed to pursue his ambitions was to get his hands on some knights armor and then fight well for a king and he would gain position and land. Today, capital is your knight's armor. Once you have it, you have a job, the same as the knight's: to grow your empire.
If you go this route, along the way you'll get friends, and that will just be one aspect of how your life is enriched by reconnecting with drive and reestablishing your confidence. Venture out. It is fun.
What a cuck
Dude, travel and meet people.
I'm sure you're tactic of never appearing to help your colleagues will work well for your career and is a very sophisticated strategy.
So no one gona call op out on telling person to buy link and "just" look for sure x30 opportunity in crypto?
Why would you ask serious questions after that?
>I have enough money to never need to work, but I AM SO SAD
Fuck you. I hate you.
I'm sorry dipshit, did you expect an answer to 'how to make a million dollars in 5 years' that is highly likely?
And funny you shit talk link considering I already 35x'ed on it.
Yeah. Help with complicated work tasks.
Not by being coffee boy. You're one step away from sucking dicks. Better start practicing right now.
Yeah being a disagreeable tech support who wouldn't dare offer a kind gesture is a surefire way to the top of the business hierarchy
It probably isn't, but I like my asshole and my mental integrity intact. I'd rather be poor Chad than rich beta, but to everyone it's own. Competence + being helpful over subservience.
How do I find or generate drive? I'm able to blend in with normies and am sociable and people enjoy me. I'm not a genius but I'm also not a brainlet. I've got potential but don't know how to harness or direct it so I haven't done anything besides work my dead-end job. Am 27, feel like life is passing me by.
I have my real estate license that I don't use (because I've been working my job to get capital for an opportunity that may never come). Life is unfulfilling and I often consider just eating a bullet because I am a doomer who believes that I'll never find a greater purpose than wage slaving for a faceless CEO.
It is all so tiresome.
We've sorta exhausted this argument but because I made this thread to give advice I'm gonna give this advice take it or leave it bc I actually think it's consequential in life.
It's not useful to evaluate social acts on an alpha/beta scale as if they happen in a vacuum. Imagine Brad Pitt or Don Draper or Marty Kahn or whoever the fuck showing up in their office with bagels for everyone. They wouldn't be alpha in spite of that act, they would be increasing their alpha appearance through that act. I don't know the human psychology why, but it's intuitively true. You're missing out on opportunities to gain advantage for yourself if you rule out ever behaving in a way that on the surface might seem beta (if someone else did it)
I want to invest now in crypto before 2020 bull run, and then buy more monthly, but with lesser amounts.
What do you think, when alt season happen? What alts you would choose for
> 30yo
hahahaha
come back in 20 years, you know nothing
You must save in real savings. gold and silver or your cash will be destroyed through inflation.
Take sachets of salt from MickeyDs. If anyone asks you to make drinks add half a sachet in - guaranteed they’ll never ask a second timt
Sorry you're going through a rough patch user. The good news is that you will turn the corner. Not to say life won't be tiresome a lot, but it will be worth it.
How do you find your drive? Look man I don't know anything about you but I know that you got a real estate license that is unrelated to your dayjob and to me that demonstrates drive right off the bat, not to mention the fact that you're here actively asking how to find drive. So it looks to me like you have drive; it's found, it's just a question of activating it and revving it up. To do that, I mean there's a big health component to that which is important, in terms of sleep/nutrition exercise. But beyond that, it's about connecting with your WHY. In my experience, your WHY doesn't have to be transcendent or grand, it just has to be a little bigger than yourself, and something that when you contemplate it makes you feel a little rush of power and strength. It can also change over time by the way. For me I can feel that rush when I'm accelerating too fast in my car, or deadlifting, or listening to certain classical music. Anyway those are just examples of things that give me access to activating MY drive. And I'll tell you my WHY is my family, so that can be a good one.
In terms of your concern about wage slaving for a faceless CEO, consider that if you pick almost any uber rich successful middle aged dude around now; at the beginning of his career that's exactly what he did.
I'll help I can't smell shit
>when alt season happen?
Oh sweet child...
I could use some advice.
Are you still here, friendly boomer user?
what do you need?
>executed on op's plan (live with parents, save agressive, big salary, lotta link) and am now a link general, a cobra in the grass waiting to strike.
t. top tier link marine intj thinker
The fucking cope.
Where you want to be is getting coffee with people, not for people. You’re being viewed as a bitch, likely by people who don’t even have the power to help you because those are the only people who need to take advantage of you. People with power have admins who actually get paid for shit like that.
t. 35 yo boomer making 6 figures advising everyone to sage this meme thread
Yeah I'm here
violent armed robbery.
It's not cope, as I'm not at school yet and haven't bought anyone coffee. But I also know there are ways to do small gestures of goodwill without appearing obsequious
What do you do for employment? I'm not trying to not work, I just want to find some work that is meaningful and stimulates me. My current job is pretty easy (because I've learned it) but boring. I tried some physically laborious jobs but hated them; I need to stimulate my mind. I'm not capable of being a nuclear engineer or software developer of something because I'm not proficient at any math beyond algebra. I feel like there is something inside of me that just needs to be unleashed.
I imagine a lot of my doomer mentality comes from coping with reality by drinking and smoking weed. They're bad habits and I'd be fine kicking them if I could see some larger purpose but as it stands the future looks bleak so I just say "fuck it."
Kind of a chicken/egg scenario - do I drink because the future is bleak, or is the future bleak because I drink? I'm confident if I found some sort of purpose I'd drop the bad habits, it's just finding that purpose. I should try getting a full 8 hours of sleep, I typically get 6-7.
Sorry for blogposting, you guys are my frens. If I told my girlfriend, family, or IRL friends what happens internally daily they'd be pretty worried about me, I imagine. I don't want to cause them worry.
Yeah don't worry your gf or family, but I'm sure you could lowkey talk about dark shit with your friends. Don't go full goth, but you can definitely talk about having the blues, or your career decisions.
Drinking and smoking weed on a regular basis will hinder you in a substantial way pretty quickly and will straight up ruin/put a low ceiling on your life in the long term. Especially doing it to cope with life, it's like trying to treat a burnt hand by sticking it in a campfire; directly counterproductive.
Don't want to say my line of work cause I'm paranoid, but I can say that I've had jobs that didn't stimulate my mind and felt the same way. There are plenty of stimulating jobs, I recommend taking some time and effort to think about what you want to do. Maybe get a career assessment book or two on amazon and start thinking about it. Whether it's an EMT or software sales or whatever, it's just a question of researching what you see yourself enjoying
you are a faggot
You're 30. In 2019 that makes you about 12. Who are you to give advice? You're barely a third of the way in yourself.
I'm going back to school in August to finish my bachelors. I'm hoping to stumble into something that ignites some sort of passion but even if I don't have it I'll have the meme degree that I can use to get into a handful of positions on my existing network.
I was drinking or smoking almost daily but recognized it was becoming a problem so I've cut it back
Now I typically only do it if people ask me to have a few beers. The real difference has been in my consumption levels - before I'd drink ~6-10 IPAs or ~10-15 light beers + 5-8 shots of whiskey in a casual outing. Now I'll have 3-6 light beers and rarely any liquor. Was just tired of feeling like shit the day after. I was stealing happiness from tomorrow for a short gain today but I ran out of happiness to steal.
then why do I enjoy fucking your mom?
Being able to give useful advice to Jow Forums biz does not require a super high bar, dickweed
>Giving career advice without having a job to speak of
Absolute state of Jow Forums
Glad you cut back, that was a fucking shit ton of alcohol to drink.
Passion can be tricky. Out of my friends who are happiest/most successful now, none of them followed their passion per se. All of them followed an overlap of their interest and skill. All of them worked tedious, difficult jobs for multiple years. And they still have difficult, stressful, at times tedious jobs. But they have great situations - enjoy their work, great compensation and satisfaction, have secure futures, and are much happier than you would've expected given how miserable they were at times usually age 22-25
I have a job smartass
Yeah, I was in a bad spot. Was in full blown degeneracy of gambling, getting fucked up, and useless hookups with women. Was fun for a while and then it wasn't. Just an empty, meaningless lifestyle.
I'm not looking to be rich or famous, I just want to stop feeling like I'm wasting some unseen potential.
Thanks for listening, fren. It's helpful on this rainy day. Any books you can recommend? I've been reading some investment books that I've been enjoying. Trying to fill spare time with improving myself rather than booze, weed, and video games.
you are too beta to fuck any vagina, you have coped yourself into thinking making coffee is a "power move" lmao, you sound like you have grindr installed
Glad it was helpful. I have a million books to recommend, so that's a tough question for me. I mean the ultimate proto-business/investment book I'd have to say is Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. There's wisdom oozing out of that book
Christ, you faggots are so insecure about doing anything for anyone bc if you did it it would reveal ur beta nature, whereas when normal people do it it generates goodwill among equals
protip: everyone you make coffee for realizes your motive and hence they all see you as a bitch either way. no one actually believes its a power move apart from you. its not insecurity on my part, its yours. you think too much about you're perceived, therefore sorry user but you're the bitch and likely always will be.
lmao you just can't imagine being a high status person in a group of high status people.
it's hilarious and ironic that you think you are, the guy who thinks making coffee is a "power move". you must be american, i bet my linkies on it.
you'll never make it user.
How can an underage person make money? I'm out of stuff to tell my son
What are the best paying entry level jobs?
Sell belle delphine and other thots' exclusive bath water on ebay
I would not he able to look him in the eyes if he did
ibanking pays around 160k which eclipses pretty much everything else entry level
why do you think Link will succeed?
online poker is what i did, but if i were underage today i'd get some quick capital doing yardwork/shoveling and mess around in crypto
but since you're the father you should know that your son should be focused on building character/values/habits. money will come later
Will you be participating in NOIA's IEO?
How much net worth to afford a house with interior like this?
How many millions approx? Don't mean the literal price for the house, but the amount of money you would need to be rich enough to enable this type of living.
Thanks for the tip. I know, I want the best for him, thing is, he learned about crypto some weeks ago and wants money to get in. I can't give mine atm, I'm all in LINK kek
I wouldn't say I think Link will succeed, but I think there is a decent chance at an amazing outcome and so therefore it's a good bet. I've been in since the pre-sale and held ever since. Aside from the technology itself, the vision is huge and a natural follow-up to the innovation of ethereum. They need successful technology, institutional support, and to benefit from the network effect and they will skyrocket. All three of those aspects are looking pretty good right now.
IAMA 30 boomer NEET ama anything about doing nothing all day.
It depends on the quality and exclusivity (art for example) of what you want but there are probably interior decorators for a few thousand so you don't need much
You could prob find a gem somewhere for 750k that has a couple rooms like this, but more likely it'll be a 2.5m+ house. To afford a 2.5m house your networth only has to be around a milliion as long as you are making ~600k/year income
I see. Thanks for sharing.
So like everyone on this board I'm tryna get rich or die tryin'. (Ayoo. Aha! Chyeah).
I am 26 and currently work in the most wage slave public service job of all time. I fucked up in college and so have only this year graduated with a degree in architecture.
So here's the thing: I can now go work in an architecture firm but they will only pay me about 20k until I have worked for a year, returned to college for a 2 year masters and then done professional exams. Once all of that is done I can start earning slightly more, but from what I've heard it's one of, if not the, worst paid professions.
So alternatively my wage slave job is piss easy but because I have been doing it part time whilst in college I only make about 15k a year.
However, one pay grade above me is about 30k and I reckon I could start that immediately, and 2 pay grades above me is starting at 40k and working up to 55k. I have worked here for 5 years so I think I'd be able to get upwardly mobile relatively quickly now that I have a degree. However, the work is extremely boring and shite.
So what do I do? The slow road of architecture or shit office job until I have enough money to buy some property?
>of that equally in btc/eth/link
Larp
Not in a business career, more engineering/science student at the moment which i plan on going to grad school next year for. My dream is to get a phd and work in industry which would open up scientist, RnD, research type positions and i would be debt free when i graduate (4-6 yrs). If i dont get accepted then i would do a masters which would put me in some debt. With the masters I could do one of two things: do the thesis MS and take that and try to go phd still, or do non thesis, w
in which they help you out with getting a Co-op which should let me graduate debt free from the masters and then i would go into industry and work more engineering type jobs than scientist type jobs. PhD is a pay increase nd has a higher pay ceiling for if i want to stay in technical roles whereas MS will get me started making money earlier, but ive been told id have to transition into manager roles to keep getting raises at some point. basically asking if i should pursue my dream or just pursue the early money
Not OP but I know wealthy people and they all have the same sentiment - money is nice but it isn't everything. The entire concept of "making it" is premised around us having enough time to pursue what we really love. If you can follow your dreams and get paid doing it then do that. Otherwise, what are you trying to be rich for? So that you have time to chase your dream?
okay thanks, i guess that makes sense. either way if i get a job in the field i should be making good money and be fine, just rich vs richer sort of situation so i think i will just go for the phd even if it takes some time. After thinking a little i might be able to do the Coop route and a thesis then go into phd to be fine either way, but i will email the admissions people to see if that is a path or not.
Learn to design cabinetry, get licensed in Kitchens/Baths and make 150K+ near a major city. My boss makes 600K/yr in a 4 person office. Hours are long, expect 80-100 hour weeks during busy seasons (before the holidays).
Woah woah, give me more details pls. How do I get licenced? What country are you talking about?
Anything I'd heard previously was that furniture is a totally dead business because of places like IKEA
Wait also if your boss makes that what do you make? And are you also an architecture graduate? I have pretty poor knowledge of related fields although I am aware that they're the better way to make money than following the straight "architect" path.
I am 22 yo cuck who's working in an office everyday 9-5 and I hate dealing with normies. I am investing in crypto and stocks and travelling a lot but I cannot find that spark inside me which would make me to actually do something. I got lot of ideas what can I do and how to monetize it but I am fucking lazy retard and it is killing my inner side. What do you recommend ?