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how many of you actually believe silver and gold is a rational investment?

Having a hard time justifying spending money on crypto or shiny rocks

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You can't destroy it and it's almost guaranteed to never be worthless. It's a relatively safe place to keep your wealth if you buy low, and it tends to go into a bubble every few decades so you have a chance at some gains if you sell at the right time.

Not going to shill silver/gold to you user. Either buy it or don't. I did and will continue to just because of what it does for my wealth.

Not much of an investment but more a hedge. Just buy stocks. It will only go up forever and I'm not being ironic.

hedgefunds buy gold, btc is recognised by some as a store of value. What/who do you need to justify to. Do your research and if you believe in it then buy it.

>will continue to just because of what it does for my wealth.
keeps it from growing?

The metals preserve your wealth. Where you'll get wealthier, is gold and silver stocks. Load the fuck up, while they're still relatively affordable.

Precious metals are a great store of wealth and long term investment

i think it's worthless because if we have a global economic crash that destabilizes the system it's gonna be like mad max. food and bullets will be far more valuable.

I'm getting redpilled on metals. What ratio of metals is ideal? Are coins the way to go? Bars? How do you store it? Do you trust banks or do you store it yourself?

Imagine buying Jew bags in tyooL 2019

wtf u dont like shiny rock?

Its not gonna be mad max. Its gonna be Syria so you'll have to bribe the local warlord with gold/silver

Silver has some interesting medical uses...
Makes you think.

10% Gold 90% silver. 10 oz bars are nice, check out 10 oz Britannias and 10 oz Royal Canadian Mint bars. 1 Oz American Silver Eagles are nice if you want smaller denominations, they have a premium but they will hold that premium for resell. Bury the metal under a lake since niggers can't swim they can't get your booty.

Couldn't you just bribe them with food and bullets though? Feels like a warlord would always need rations and ammo.

Not an investment, but a great store of wealth. If I knew I was going to go into debt I would buy tons of it.

Yes yes, they're only for Jews now go stock up on more paper assets goy-kun.

If that warlord already controls the infrastructure basic necessities are probably not needed, but gold/silver can be used to buy guns and ammo from shifty military officers sitting on stockpiles with no government.

Silver is undervalued. Gold is not at the moment,.

Silver will be the biggest moonshot of the next decade. Gold will skyrocket too but silver is where you'll see the massive move.

SIlver is undervalued compared to gold, but both are undervalued in general.

stock up on 5.56. It's the most common round used by police and military and there are plenty of guns that shoot it. After a collapse you can easily trade your stock for other weapons or food or women etc.

Of course having ammo is important, but do you know how many rounds 1 ounce of silver can buy? That's a hell of a lot easier to carry since the remaining government parts have banks that value shiny boomer rocks, so with shiny boomer rocks you will never go wrong as long as things don't collapse 100%, which they won't.

btc yes
gold yes
shitcoins no
silver no

well. im envisions a future where government has completely collapsed so the way i'm looking at it is a bit different.

So this warlord has enough control in the local area that food and bullets are not something he'd take in a trade, but he also needs gold and silver to buy ammo from military officers?

He can use the gold and silver to purchase anything he wants. Generally you sell or barter away that which you need least. If he has tons of ammo he doesn't need he'll barter that away for something he needs. If he has gold and silver and ammo but needs ammo cause some darkies were lookin to raid then he'll barter away the gold and silver for what he needs. This isn't rocket science bud.

I seriously doubt the financial institutions will collapse fully alongside every single competent government able to fill in and exploit a power vacuum

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Do you trust the government? If so don’t worry it’ll all be fine

if only you knew how bad things will be.

Thx for the image, here is something else user

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What about asteroid mining

Lol

please rope yourself

We haven't even gone back to the moon yet...

>what is incentive

>What about asteroid mining

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>What is Helium-3?

Ah yes, there it is. The asteroid mining post in every silver thread. Though I've seen someone say transmutation recently.

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>2019
i'll have the cheesesteak sub with a side of fries
>that will be $8

>2021
i'll have the cheesesteak sub with a side of fries
>That'll be 3 rounds of 5.56x45mm and 2 AA batteries please

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You seriously are going to be dissapointed with how collapse really looks.

Silver is massively undervalued.
Scientifically speaking there is a 9:1 ratio between silver and gold. 9 pieces of silver means 1 piece of gold. Gold is at 1444 so silver should be somewhere between 100-160 dollars roughly and it's currently at about 16 dollars an ounce. Historically, recessions usually cause silver prices to skyrocket where gold only sees slight gains. Silver is a great buy, stack up high and try to get a MINIMUM of 200 oz. Some believe that silver could go up to 1000 dollars an oz, I'm not too sure about that but you never know.

5% of your wealth in physical is a good hedge

it's not really a moon mission, wait for a dip, too

I've considered buying gold coins but they're really fucking worthless.

This bot needs reprogrammed

I like how business and finance includes the barter economy that'll rise when society collapses.
Humans will always use a currency for bartering, ever since Grug used a pretty rock to buy berries. Especially with the collective knowledge of currency that we all share. It won't be trading cans of food level unless something catostrophic disrupts all of society. In which case we're probably headed for extinction anyway.
But in the land of reality, precious metals are just the safest way to store wealth while beating inflation. Your 401k might crash, your bank may become insolvent, but you'll always have that gold buried in your backyard.

We are entering the great filter, there is no sci fi future, it's all down hill from here...
On another note, what to look for when buying silver?

>what to look for when buying silver?

American Silver Eagles hold their premium very well for resale. Mexican Libertads appreciate in value well because they're such low mintage.

Buy what you like in any event. Anything under $20/oz is good imo.

To be fair to the alchemists transmutation is probably more realistic then asteroid mining

>google top 10 commodities bought and sold in US and international markets
>gold and silver both in the top 10

There’s your answer.

10oz Royal Canadian mint bars are overpriced because of how fucking popular they are.

Been a while since I've bought them desu, they were cheap af when I picked em up. Been on the Britannias lately

Well as a Canadian my typical online dealers don’t have them. I have to physically go to a shop or buy it on eBay and they’re way over spot for me. Britannia bars are available for me but to much over spot for a bar. I’m only interested in legal tender coins and government issued bars.

Sold out at Apmex as well which is why I haven't bought them in a while.

I wish maples didn't have the queen on the obverse. The leaf itself looks so pretty in silver or gold.

Its all a scam just pick your scam. I have both.

>how many of you actually believe silver and gold is a rational investment

Neither is meant to be a traditional investment, and if you buy it like a traditional investment, your bags will be heavy. It's meant to be bought cheap and sold during a recession to dumb people when the price spikes and stocks fall. Then you cycle those profits into stocks during the fire sale. All of the boomers that bought silver as an investment at $50 an ounce have bags literally worth their weight in silver now.

Bonds are the only true way to store your wealth.

If you buy metals (especially physical) youre absolutely retarded

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>Bonds

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>Bonds are the only true way
Imagine hedging against a government default by buying more government debt.

>richest country on earth defaulting
imagine being this delusional and schizo

They already defaulted once in the 70s. You think they're going to unpeg from the gold standard twice to pay back those creditors? Kek

what country are you talking for brainlet? USA never defaulted in its entire history of existence

Lmao. Can't imagine being this clueless about history. Close your tab right now and don't come back until you've understood why Nixon had to abandon the gold standard and start paying everyone back with funny money instead. Seriously you're an embarassement to Western civilization.

oh look, schizo got caught sperging bullshit and now he refuses to give any evidence. USA never defaulted any bonds you moron, try getting educated before embarassing yourself dumbass

Both metals are, as per the families, suppose to jump 400x+ post jubilee.

Imagine being so stupid that you don't know that credit default swaps exist and that even with out that you can make a Diversified Bond Portfolio and spread out the exceptionally low risk to virtual ~0 and pretend you know finance . GO away peasant, this is not the board for you.

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Closing the gold window was a defacto default. Bonds are just USD with a coupon. There was outstanding USD that were supposed to be freely exchangeable for gold. The US closing the gold window was the US admitting it couldn't exchange gold for USD. Default

It's safe in the sense that it won't go to $0, but there's no guarantee that it'll hold its value, much less provide for profit.

bonds were denominated in dollars and were repaid in dollars. thats not what a default looks like. if the rest of the world refused to accept those dollars then it would be a default

Kills mold and is a biocide makes you think

Tomorrow when my paycheck clears I will buy 1 10oz bar and 10 1oz Eagles. I know I will make way more buying LINK but having those chunks of metal just sounds comfy af

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Why would a starving person trade their bullets for silver?

Just bought more.

man you are a dumb nigger. so dumb i bet you might glow in the dark

oh look, another 30 IQ moron without an argument

>why Nixon had to abandon the gold standard and start paying everyone back with funny money instead
because on a national scale money is a medium of exchange and not a store of wealth. having gold sitting in a fort doesn't build factories or create jobs. but not having enough currency is definitely going to do the opposite.
this board already laughs at the guy who bought a pizza with bitcoin. why would anybody use their gold to start a new business when they think it might x10 just by HODLing.

How safe is it for us to touch silver if it does that? Our whole skin is covered in healthy flora

I don't think gold or silver are a good investment because all they are is a hedge against an implausible doomsday scenario - a global economic meltdown that makes the great depression look like a golden era of prosperity. "Investing" in boomer rocks isn't much different from having a stockpile of canned food, water, and ammunition because you think the zombie apocalypse is about to happen.

Better than holding inflationary fiat

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It's not an "investment," it's a hedge against hyperinflation, catastrophic volatility, and SHTF.

If gold is pumping, like actually mooning, theres a problem. It's been pretty low for decades. I remember it had a good spike on 9/11.

Gold and silver aren't investments, they are money.

The only thing you should touch that has an 'S' in it should be SNTVT.

HOW
WHERE

SOMEONE JUST EXPLAIN TO ME, I WANT SOME SHINIES
and maybe like, a container to keep it in?

You pay government tax to buy these things, how will that ever make you a profit when you sell them?

Gold and Silver are speculative plays against inflation. That's the ONLY reason why you should buy either.

Gold does tend to move upwards when the stock market is unstable, but that's only temporary. In the resulting deflation from a market crash, Gold shits the bed as everyone runs for the safety of government bonds. This is what happened in 2009.

In the immediate aftermath of the recession everyone piled back into Gold/Silver because we all thought that the Federal Reserve creating all this money to bail out the banks was going to result in inflation. Hence the Gold $1900 price in 2011. But the price inflation never came.

The inflation went into the stock market/housing market and it's been that way ever since.

>how many of you actually believe silver and gold is a rational investment?
you shouldn't think of gold and silver as an investment. Especially silver as it remains stagnate most of the time.
You should think of them as an insurance for when the market/economy collapses or if there is a recession which makes fiat currency pretty much worthless. Silver is a great 'investment' in the sense of having something physically of actual value. Silver is a great commodity to have as a back up currency, or something to be able to easily access when times are tough.