>18 months ago a roommate asked me to teach him java because he wanted to "make programmer money" and "stop drawing blood for a living" >teach him for a month or two and then let him go on his own >fast forward to today >he still struggles with methods, iterating through arrays, lists, using data types like booleans, et cetera >asked me how to grab data from some crypto site >show him RESTful protocol and an HTTP library (e.g. OkHttp) >he completely panics and proceeds to stop that project entirely >I'm moving out soon (in around 2 months) >he can't find a new roommate and will probably have to move out >convinced he just needs another year to get good at java and he'll find a gig where he can live by himself
I honestly don't think it'll click for him. He's not a math or computer oriented person and this seems super unintuitive for him. I tried telling him to just drop it and go do personal fitness training (he's a great gym partner) but he insisted on this. Any tips on how to encourage him to transition to something that isn't outside his domain? I've tried being positive for a while but the outlook doesn't look good.
to add, it was really unintuitive for me as well when I first started with freecodecamp
The instructor for the linked udemy course explains everything well and I'm sure you friend will be able to pick it up - he seems to have the dedication
Jordan Williams
I asked him what he wanted to learn and he said, "Whatever you do." And since I do mostly backend Java stuff, there you go. This isn't a Java issue. This is a "I don't know how to construct a function to achieve a simple task" problem.
Jaxson Morris
Perhaps doing a bootcamp would help if learning by himself isn't working.
Charles Ward
T. MD schlomo
Cooper Nelson
programming is literally just a glorified plumber most of the time it's more about getting used to a new way of thinking
just introduce the udemy course to him, it's actually pretty good and assumes 0 background
Blake Fisher
let him do cs50 first and if he cant finish it then he gone
Oliver Jackson
Nice blog post, but anyways you don’t owe him shit dog, you have to learn to walk before you run have him watch some basic YouTube videos on data in general, start with sql etc
Brandon Flores
>cs50 don't do this
just finish the fucking udemy course on nodejs
Brody Mitchell
learn 2 code is pretty much the worst advice you can give anyone. the job market is very competitive. at best after studying for a year without a degree, you'll land a front end job for $14 by undercutting everyone else for low end positions. you could make $20 an hour by just waiting tables or being a personal trainer, with no experience.
Angel Gutierrez
he got 0 exp aka brainlet he needs to start at the bottom nodejs is a meme
Jason Perry
Actually JS might be kind of good. You can write functioning code without even classes. Plus you get that instant gratification by having a react app display a webpage
James Martinez
Not to shit on you user but how good of a teacher are you? Also how smart is your friend? I personally find that I learn better from a book than most other sources of knowledge. Maybe if your friend goes through a basic java book with clear examples he might be able to apply them to similar problems and actually learn something.
Introduce him to python and then django. Java is for Android apps.
William Gutierrez
Well there is this coin I keep hearing about.
Gabriel Torres
Ok user, if we're going to be able to help you, we need to start at the beginning. Tell us about your mother...
Matthew Turner
Iris....Iris have you heard about our Timmy? Well his flatmate user has been schooling him in computers for a year - hes almost got a computerology you know. I dont know how he manages, Timmy was never a good student he was more suited to sports or so I thought I never believed he was capable of an ology he couldnt tie his laces until he was 13 never mind the panic attacks. He doing well Iris he told me hes just applied for a job at Apricot can you believe it? I cant believe hes got his act together Iris hes got a great flat, hes sociable everyone loves him onwards and upwards Iris onwards and upwards. I was so worried Iris that hed have to back to shit shovelling but it looks like those days are over - happy days are here again Iris!
Ryan Adams
>flash forward six months from now to when this guy bullshits his way into a better job than OP by being a likable jock
Adrian Butler
literally where outside of pakigeria does anyone even remotely related to development make 14 an hour. even designers make more than that.
Lucas Perry
Introduce him to JavaServer Faces and wait for him to kill himself, as I'm about to do now.
Aiden Perez
Don't listen to this faggot lol
James Diaz
My older brother almost took an IT job out of college with an informatics degree for $17 an hour working midnight to 8 am. His first local offer two months out of graduation, but he got an offer from Boeing for $30/hr a week before he was gonna start at IT
Kevin Sanchez
>Learning Java and not scheme
WHY
Grayson Brooks
people only learn by failing, let him fail
Jack Lewis
>react app go with Vue.js desu~
Eli Smith
>18 months ago a roommate asked me to teach him java because he wanted to "make programmer money" and "stop drawing blood for a living"
Literally peak bubble behavior. Anyone getting into programming now is going to be buying the top for sure.
Matthew Russell
PajIT sucks now. It's flooded with ever decreasing talent. I've seen it transform over the past 15 years into something I had never imagined. Many of the guys I worked with in the past have abandoned it. I don't look at it as the safe choice that I used to when I was in HS and the H1B has a lot to do with that. I'd tell him to go for anything else.
Aiden Smith
why the fuck are you that worried about somebody else you dumb fucking bitch
