What's the right etiquette for the first few dates with a girl...

What's the right etiquette for the first few dates with a girl? Should I just pay for things or should I assume we'll split it?

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If you ask her out, you should pay. If she offers to pay on the first date, that's a good sign but don't let her. If you like each other and you've fucked a few times, then start letting her pick it up sometimes or splitting.

>Dating
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTT

If she thinks you're hot, you can do anything and she'll justify it in her mind. If she has any doubt about you she'll interpret whatever you do as a negative and you'll never win no matter what.

t. Loser

This x1000

Only a person with no personality thinks they don't matter. There's some truth to what you said but oftentimes things aren't so black and white. A lot of women want to be pampered a bit, especially on a first date.

This is the only answer OP.
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I disagree. first date you are both getting to know each other. it should be split.
Assume that you're going to end up paying, but if she offers to go half, you should absolutely let her. It's a good way to filter through the trash, if you take a girl out and she doesn't offer to cover her half, she's not worth going out with again. the exchange is one sided. you don't have to pay for the privilege of sitting with someone else, that's beta as fuck.

This. Doesn't mean being a huge jew that demands every penny be split but it should certainly not be one-sided

Trick her to pay retard, this way you can have free dates with higher tier women.

Actually, it's beta as fuck to not pay for a meal that YOU'VE ASKED SOMEONE OUT TO.

GODAMN, hit the nail on the head

Functioning person here.

Just pay unless she says she wants to split it.

cuck

Pay because the woman is the weaker sex. Only incels think that men aren't superior to women in every way.

fatso

so if she expresses interest in hanging out with you first, do you expect her to pay your way? first date is meeting with someone new. why is it your responsibility to pay for her to meet with you?

^this person gets laid more than OP the trick is to not go somewhere expensive for first dates. Drinks instead of dinner.

Damn she thick

ok, next question....
if she orders the lobster (or most expensive meal on the menu) and you end up paying. does she owe you sex?

yes, if she explicitly asked me out on a date then i would let her pay.

I asked if you'd expect her to pay, not if you'd let her pay.

peak delusion right here

omg dude, split hairs much?
i'd expect her to pay, yes, but i'd probably still offer to split.

kek. so when she doesn't grab the check your response is what? we can tell you don't have much dating experience neckbeard.

You should pay, at least I would prefer it that way. If she's gonna get offended by that it's a good sign we might not be compatible and I like doing gentlemen bullshit.

>should I assume we'll split it?
The only thing that hambeast is splitting is her jeans.

Pay her upfront, bring your own condom, shave and wash yourself beforehand.

She's fat, user. Just fuck her and then start looking for an escape route.

are you a man? are you doing something with a woman? if you've answered yes to both of these questions then you pay for everything, no questions asked.

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It's true, personality is huge.

Wanna know how I know your personality is shit?

Never ever ever let her pay. Never. Even if she offers to. However if she actually starts to get pissed about it then give in and don't go out with her again as she's obviously some sorta militant women's libber who will bring you nothing but trouble. Miserable life with a woman like that. Miserable.
Always pay the bill no matter who ask who out.

NEVER!

Pay everything FFS, don't even hesitate for a second about it. Unless she really insists, in that case allow her to fetch you a drink or something.
Friends split, you shouldn't as you're not there to become her fucking friend.

Lead the fucking thing, women crave to be led.

Be honest and fun. Give her honest compliments.
Also if you have any kinks, go ahead and be brave. If she doesn't like you, date's gonna be shit anyway; if she likes you, anything that makes you more unique is an extra perk.

Try to get physical contact on 1st date: kiss on lips (no french ofc), foot massage, hug that she can feel your dick, one of these things.

Remember she's as human as you are, here in this planet for the same quick short ride.

GSA

For first few dates the implication is the most important thing: spending more than 30 minutes or more than a single cup of coffee or drink implies your time is of low value and therefore you are too.

One drink or one cup of coffee. Act like you have a harem of women competing for your time and eventually you will.

this man knows.

if she calls herself a feminist make her pay half and call it equality, especially if she makes close to the same money you do and has similar life expenses. if she insists that you pay then remind her that you're the one paying for every date if she brings up her feminist nonsense again.

most women quite sensibly would prefer to raise children at home while the man is at work instead of hiring a babysitter. but the housing bubble makes that hard.

but in the end whatever she says she will be instinctively less attracted to you if you can't display to her through purchases your financial fitness as a man.

so it all depends

Treat her to the first date, but tell her you understand the equality movement and that you will let her get the next one. If she likes you and isn't just using you, you will get a second date and have established a give and take relationship.

Says the guy who sounds like he takes pua classes

She owes you nothing lol. If she orders the most expensive food then the chances are that she's playing you.

you don't owe her anything on a first date either. pay the bill cause it's the nice thing to do, but if she expects it, she's an entitled cunt.

Lie and say you forgot your wallet. Watch her reaction and then say you were just kidding.

Who is this absolute UNIT?

based
dunno but i would drop a nut in her

You pay or you're a cuck

>Pay
HAHAHAHAHA! You realize there are girls who go on dates for free food/drinks? If you don’t split the bill, you’re a beta who will get played.

if she's a virgin and a conservative and wants a family you pay, if not then tell her she's a strong woman and should pay for herself and that you'll only have sex with her if she buys you nice things.

Every girl I've ever dated I've always split the bill, especially on the first date. It's my own personal shit test for women, I like to gauge their reaction to it. I've had many successful first dates where it would not have mattered who paid, the girl liked me enough for more dates after. Essentially, what this user says really is the truth Halo effect.

if you’re still taking women on dates in 2019 you’re already cucked. “not paying” won’t change that

truth, just make out with them wherever you meet them then ask them back to your place.
women are degenerates

Read how to be a 3% man. You're welcome

have sex

pay for it.

jesus fuck you are one pathetic little bitch boy

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If its a tinder date, then split, but if you met this girl IRL then you should pay.

ask her to take off her shoes so u can see her feet

works every time

preach it, neckbeard!