I lose

why do you care about being 5'5? The only disadvantage is getting laid and making money.

You can get laid in asia. You can make money on the internet (where no one knows you're a manlet)

Thread concludes that you're automatically fucked if you're under 5'8

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>spending forty thousand dollars and fucking up your legs forever to go from manlet to slightly taller manlet
user, you have body dysphoria. Surgery will not cure that,. If anything it will make it worse because you'll still be a manlet but your proportions will be all fucked up. Not to mention the chronic physical pain
Go see a therapist or something about your mental illness

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Dude if I make it I want to pay for your surgery. This post is kind of heart breaking to be honest.

nah dude I know 2 rich manlets who get laid like crazy in colombia and vietnam. These poor countries are full of cuties who only care about money. They're not hookers, they're gold diggers and that's perfectly fine.

You should move to Japan, Chine or South Korea. They are all manlets in there so you don't have to be ashamed of it anymore.

If you need help from a manlet living a good life send me your contact details.

lmao height is only relevant relative to other people, what the fuck are you even saying

also
>"beta logic"
opinion instantly discarded, stop using meme terms like an actual fucking 12 year old

op is in a pit of self pity, he could easily be a based manlet, but he has to stop being a faggot first

get the fuck off Jow Forums unless you can see past the defeatism and degenerates; this place is a flytrap for bottom tier losers - don't let these people and their retarded perspetives rub off on you

go be based; if you do cardio, eat well, read and lift you'll have an aura most people don't have - that can compensate for a lot of height, you'll never fuck 10/10s, but whatever

PS: The surgery won't help you cause you'll forever be a manlet at heart.

Body building?????

It was LITERALLY the ONLY thing that I cared about.
>inb4 "b-but it's easier to build muscle when you're short!"
Ya and what the fuck is the point when at the end of the day, it will still look pathetic as shit? People who say being a short male is fine are either delusional or are short themselves and are just COPING.

Na, even 5'9" is barely okay. 5'10" is the magic number in my eyes.

That would be nice... I have 4190 notes on my phone. Like 95% of it is me just talkimg about wanting to kms. I have spammed this online too (like on suicide forums). I could have had a normal life.. instead, I am broken. All because god targeted me specifically. Only bad things happen to me.

christ, what a pathetic excuse for a human bean.

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It won't help me. My issues has less to do with women and money (well, money to an extent. I was never obsessed with money until I desired the surgeries) and more to do with pride+dominance.

It has to do with my old self. The one that trained like a madman. I strongly believe I would have broken world records had I never been emasculated.

>go be based; if you do cardio, eat well, read and lift you'll have an aura most people don't have - that can compensate for a lot of height, you'll never fuck 10/10s, but whatever

Hilarious you should say this.

At age 12, I would do 100 pushups in 1 minute and 20 seconds without stopping. At age 16.5, I used to do 17k pushups with 45lb in a month, 51k situps in a month, curl a 20lb dumbbell 1,800 times per arm in one single set, almost maxed the machines I used for 2 yrs (ages 15-16), curl 50lb dumbbells, hand stand pushups, Etc. That's just a brief summary. I basically did one of everything. Trained 2-3 hrs everyday for 4.5 yrs from age 12-16.5.

As for the weights in the machines that I used, I couldn't tell you. I put pins randomly. I tried to put it in the heaviest I could handle, but never looked at the amount. The fitness room in my highschool also had pins for bench presses. I had my own bench press too with not much weights (maybe about 200lb. Nothing really).

That's a SUMMARY. Long story short: 4.5 years I trained (age 12-16.5). Trained 2-3 hrs a day. My goal was to push my ultimate limit. It made me feel good.. but when I realized 5'5" was my final height, it shattered my brain. I went from being a man (mentally) to being a boy. I was mind raped by this. TRUE PTSD

>Na, even 5'9" is barely okay. 5'10" is the magic number in my eyes.
to who? you? I'm 5'8 and my life is based as fuck

> I could have had a normal life.. instead, I am broken. All because god targeted me specifically. Only bad things happen to me.
you are a fucking 12 year old girl
look at how pathetic you sound; you can have a great life even if you never see a pussy once - but you will automatically, if you end this retarded selfpity persona and work on yourself

I remember your thread from a while ago. Dude I feel bad for you. If you need the surgery just take out loans at this point. Better alternative to killing yourself.

Nog, just keep going, your height means nothing when you can bench 500, or deadlift 450.

When you break world records in athletics, bitches will come. And that's a guarantee.

>and more to do with pride+dominance
and why would you place so much value on this in 2k19? Jow Forums brainwash you?

>weights blabla
? literally who cares, you sound like a boomer who thought he would be a pro football player if it wasnt for xyz

just keep lifting if you enjoy it, no one else gives a fuck - why do you have to "shatter records" to have self respect? work with the hand you're dealt and ditch your "im broken" persona, its pathetic, and is much more the reason you aren't a "man" than your height

shut the fuck up retard

>and why would you place so much value on this in 2k19? Jow Forums brainwash you?
Read the workouts I did. I was different from others. All I cared about was physical power. Ever since I was a kid. It was all that mattered to me. To have a perfect sculpted body. To reach the pinnacle of my potential.

It was INSTINCT. As if I could ever be influenced by another person. Idolizing someone is for the weak.

Literally nothing else is capable of giving me meaning. It's LITERALLY impossible for me to accept this degeneracy. It is against my very nature. This is how my brain is wired. To be king. To have the ultimate body.

You sound like a tranny who thinks he'll feel complete when he cuts his dick off. When the reality dawns at him after the surgery he goes and kills himself.

It's the hope that's keeping you alive. After the surgery, when you understand that you have made yourself a freak (while still being a manlet at heart), is when you'll kill yourself for real.

god is irony

Lazy piece of shit. Had back problems and did some specific stretches daily (still do) to fix my posture. Bonus was that it did "add" some height. Go for that and stop coping

PS: You do understand that your intense training is what made you a manlet? If you train so intensely while being so young it hampers your growth.

BITG,DRGN and LABX

And it's this "instinct" that you have that made you a manlet. You literally used the nutrients that were supposed to go to your height to your muscles. You made your bed and should now lie in it. Holy shit you are one fucking retarded ape.

Unironically this. You stunted your growth faggit

>"my brain is wired"
no, that's just a narrative you tell yourself - it's widely understood that some people believe they have a fixed mindset, and others believe they can change their mindset

understand and convince yourself that you *can* change the way you think, or you never will - it's a selffulfilling prophecy

>After the surgery, when you understand that you have made yourself a freak (while still being a manlet at heart), is when you'll kill yourself for real.
I know this already. You are wrong about one thing though. This is NOT a mistake.

The reason I'll kill myself is because if get the surgeries, I will get them when it's too late. I will never be "me" again. I was emasculated and will always be a 12 year old bot in my head now. This was PTSD only worse as it isn't a one time event. It's a continuous event that will never end until I get the surgeries.

The surgeries won't turn me into the superior dominant me anymore. My pride was hardcore. My self esteem was probably the highest of all humans.

It's all gone now. I know the surgeries can't give back what this mother fucker god stole from me.

The thing is, I don't want god to have the last laugh. I don't want to die a midget. I need at least one victory before I die.

Brah wait a couple of years at least. I just read on Jow Forums that the chinks are working on reactivating growth plates. Basically you'd inject some shit, your growth plates would become active again, then you'd start taking a shitton of HGH and your bones would resume growing just like when you were young. I don't know what kind of growth you can expect with it yet, but it will be infinitely better than getting your shins lengthened in some shithole like mexico, your proportions would be fucked and you'd likely start having serious problems with them in your 40s.

>Lazy piece of shit. Had back problems and did some specific stretches daily (still do) to fix my posture. Bonus was that it did "add" some height. Go for that and stop coping
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOD SHUT THE FUCK UP

This fucking retard actually thinks you can grow taller by fucking stretching. The ultimate brainlet.

Look, stupid.

1. Lazy? You can't even compare yourself to my old self 2. Stretching can't make bones longer, fucking idiot. Also, the most you can get from stretching your back is MAYBE 1 inch. 5'6" is still fucking pathetic as hell, brainlet.

well that's retarded. what matters in life is survival and reproduction. Money + Women. Those are the only universal drivers. Anything else can be coped with. You'll never be a strong man cause you're a manlet, who cares? Do something else.

The only fundamental drivers are survival and reproduction. Money and women. Everything else is your own choice. Choose something you can be good at.

You sound like that nigger, who made threads here some time ago, who blamed god for being unable to leave the shithole he lived in even though he was committing crimes and then got arrested by the cops.

It's the same for you. You pushed yourself too hard for whatever power fantasies you had while being a young boy and made yourself a midget. Why are you blaming god? Did god force you to do all of those pushups and sit ups while you had your growth period? Was it god who forced yourself to train so hard you stunted your growth and turned out a midget?

>Lazy? You can't even compare yourself to my old self
jesus fucking christ you're just a dude like the rest of us, stop pretending you were some demi god because you lifted some weights when you were a teenager

Wrong, idiot. My parents are short. Height is LARGELY genetic. I wouldn't have became 20ft tall with "proper nutrition". That's complete bullshit.

Nope. That's bs. Same bs I hear when i tried therapy. Load of crap. I don't even WANT to change to some pussified excuse of a man.
>inb4 "but you are one!"
No. I would become one IF I simply ACCEPTED my little boy body as my own. THAT is only something a pussy would do.

I want to do the surgeries in germany. It will take a yr to actually grow my tibia 4 inches. I also plan on dying before 30 anyways so any long term problems are irrelevant.

this is the truth but nobody here will ever admit it

>I also plan on dying before 30 anyways
kek you are mentally ill. your destiny is either jail, homelessness or death

You’re putting the blame of a mental disorder onto your body. The answer to your problems is less expensive, you need therapy. Everyone can find something “wrong” with their bodies it’s just that normal functioning brains do obsess over things they cannot easily change. There are billions of people without legs, baby dicks, facial mutations... so many things you have that others don’t. Don’t be a little bitch, go get mental help and stick to it.

I basically was a demi god. Go do what I used to and you'll see how fucking hard it really is. Words do it no justice. Fyi, you know how I said that was a summary?

Let me just give you a specific example of another thing I did. 300 pusbups in 4 min and 20 sec (100 pushups non stop for 1 min and 20 sec then a 10 sec. Breathing break. Repeated. Then another 100). That was with 45lb on my back.

300 pushups with 45lb on my back in 4 min and 20 sec. Fucking think about that. And that was as a 16 yr old. Imagine if I never stopped training????

You could never understand of course. You remind me of my therapist I had. "Oh, user. I used to run a mile. I get you". Fucking bullcrap.

Let me put it this way. 1 pushup =/= 1000.

Okay? Do what I did. If you did less, it's crap.

> I don't even WANT to change to some pussified excuse of a man.
?????? you *are* a pussified excuse of a man

>inb4 "but you are one!"
exactly right

there are based manlets and there are selfpitying loser manlets, and you've chosen to build a persona around the latter

>Wrong, idiot. My parents are short. Height is LARGELY genetic. I wouldn't have became 20ft tall with "proper nutrition". That's complete bullshit.

You sure as hell wouldn't have become 5,5 midget if you didn't use the nutrients intended for your height to your muscles. You can check any entry level research done on the subject that genes have only a little relation to the height of the offspring. Short people have long offspring and long people have short offspring. The studies also agree, that doing heavy lifting exercises can stunt your growth.

You literally made yourself a midget and now you cry how God is responsible.

>retard thinks I had control over my height
>retard fails to understand the word "genetics"

Like what... I stunted MAYBE an inch at most IF anything at all???

I have shitty genetics. god planned that out from the beginning to get under my skin so yes, It's that mother fucker's fault this happened to me.

>I basically was a demi god.

Okay, now you sound exactly like a nigger. You deserve being a midget.

trust me when I say 99.999% of the population place zero value on any of the things you are bragging about

you don't sound badass, you sound retarded

who cares? People only care about women and money. Your athletic feats impress nobody. You might as well have practiced jerking off 300 times a day, it's just as unimpressive.

I bet you're a troll. You're the same guy who made those nigger threads and now you are making midget threads. You write exactly like that nigger and you're spouting just as retarded stupid shit as that nigger.

It's entirely possible you'd been 6,0 inches, but you blew it by stunting yourself to a midget. You should remember in your next life that you don't have any power fantasies before you have grown to be a mental AND physical man, height included.

>You’re putting the blame of a mental disorder onto your body.
Oh not this horseshit.

False. Short height is a negative stimuli. Saying this is a "mental disorder" is lile saying someone who kills themselves for being bullied as being "mentally ill".

It's made up bullshit. Obviously with enough negative stimuli, it makes it so people see life as more bad than good whoch in turn makes suicide enticing. That's simply common sense. I hate how ANYTHING RELATED TO SUICIDE = "oh, mentally ill".

The mental health industry is a joke.

Loans or UND. If go with UND

>trust me when I say 99.999% of the population place zero value on any of the things you are bragging about
Seems you are illiterate because I literally stated I don't give a shit what others think about me (hence why moving to fucking china won't fix this problem).

>People only care about women and money. Your athletic feats impress nobody.
Aaaaaaaaaand I care about impressing stupid human beings why??

This was about how *I* saw myself, NOT how others see me.

a demi god in a world of hobbits. Stop obsessing join a circus see the world. bill yourself as the the mighty atom demi god. Failing that join a tribe of pygmys and be the big man, work in a mine hi ho or simply get tv work theres plenty of options for little folk.

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yeah you do give a fuck about what other people think about you

its painfully obvious you have a fragile ego

stop making yourself a super villain story; you are not special, you're just another dude who happens to be short

>I correct the retard by stating that genetics is the predetermined factor for height
>says I sound like a nigger for stating facts
Lol

Then see yourself as the king of all midgets? The Demi God of midgets?

Nobody really gives a shit.

*predetermining

>5'9
>WITH surgery
I'm 6'0 and second shortest among my friends. It's over

>doesn't care what others think
>obsess over trivial fitness challenges to the point of suicide
mental health industry is BS, but you are still mentally ill, a non mentally ill person would just make money and try to get laid, not obsess about being able to do 100 push ups per minute.

You're basically one of these homeless people walking around all day mumbling to themselves.

>yeah you do give a fuck about what other people think about you

Oh look at this projection. Absolutely pathetic.

>its painfully obvious you have a fragile ego
ONLY accurate thing you've states. I do have a super fragile ego. Even before when I felt like a king, I had a fragile ego, BUT it wasn't based on how others saw me. It was based on the expectations I had for myself. I was always concious of my limitations.

>stop making yourself a super villain story; you are not special, you're just another dude who happens to be short
Yet I trained harder than 99.99999% of humans. Topkek.

Stop equalizing effort. Again, 1 pushup =/= 1000. That's fucking retarded logic.

>Any study says that parents of any height can have children of any height
>The manlet started to do heavy lifting exercises at 12

Which do you think made you a midget? Your genetics that according to any study could produce offspring of any height or your heavy exercises that used the nutrients that were supposed to go to your height to your muscles.

Well, at least you have big muscles now. At least they'll make you a great miner for Snow White.

I mean, in truth, I NEVER wanted to be tall. 5'10" was always my dream height. Perfect height for a body builder in MY eyes. Oh well.
Life is based on luck. Effort means jack shit without the right resources.

OP you reading this?
You can make a fresh start. You can rewire your brain into striving for other things that don't have to do with height, everyone can, especially people like you who really pursue the thing they're after.
I'll give you two pieces of advice and you better make use of them:
A)Use your money and go to a shrink instead of getting leg surgery. Search until you find a good, expensive one. Good psychologists work wonders.
B) Read. Read fucking books. Like literature. No fucking movies. Read about other people. You're so obsessed with yourself right now it's clouding your vision.

If you're asking "WHAT can I do to get a better impression of myself?", a fucking leg surgery is as good as strapping a horsecock on your forehead and parading around, christening yourself Cockman.
Hope that helps, I'm not optimal height either.

>mental health industry is BS, but you are still mentally ill, a non mentally ill person would just make money and try to get laid, not obsess about being able to do 100 push ups per minute.

That's retarded logic. Your logic is "if people don't like the same things I like, they are mentally ill". Do you hear yourself? Get btfod.

>any study could produce offspring of any height
Proof?
ANY height??
So I could have been 10 feet tall if only I ate all my veggies????

MOST retarded post here.

It was in FACT genetics, you idiot. Articles aside, I have even been told this by doctors straight to my fucking FACE.

Hmm.. who knows more. A random user that has no idea what they are saying or a doctor? Hmmmmmm what a toughy.

it's not retarded logic, you're just too low IQ to understand it.

People who obsess over irrelevant shit like yourself to the point of suicide, are mentally ill and end up homeless, walking around mumbling to themselves.

A non mentally ill person might like trivial shit, but they don't obsess over trivial shit to the point of suicide.

You are no different than the mumbling homeless. Admit it, it's your destiny.

what projection? I care about what other people think of me, but not as much as you - the way you "overplay" your past like you are one of a kind simply because you had a hobby you took seriously is retarded

I've been 100th percentile in my hobbies too; I was an esports player for years - that happened because I played a lot when I was a teenager, and I was probably objectively better than you percentile wise, yet I don't even remotely identify with it or think I'm special because of it - I just had a hobby and got good, like you

>You can rewire your brain into striving for other things that don't have to do with height, everyone can, especially people like you who really pursue the thing they're after.
I don't WANT to change. I already addressed this above

>A)Use your money and go to a shrink instead of getting leg surgery. Search until you find a good, expensive one. >Good psychologists work wonders.

I don't believe in the mental health industry. I have a long history with it. Literally 0 progress. Mostly because they can't offer real solutions other than "pills and talking it out".

>B) Read. Read fucking books. Like literature. No fucking movies. Read about other people. You're so obsessed with yourself right now it's clouding your vision.
I have 0 interest in other people.

You are stating your opinions of life as a fact. That is the epitome of retarded. You are basically saying "there's only one way to be successful in life and that is by being a sheep and doing what everyone else does".

Fucking dumb as shit.

>You are stating your opinions of life as a fact
literally the opposite, I am stating facts, you are stating opinions. But again, you are too low IQ to understand that.

>I don't WANT to change. I already addressed this above
>my life sucks, but I don't want to change
welp, you seem smart

nigga just cut off your feet and have them install these bad boys. you'll be 6'2", and being a cyborg will distract women from your terrible personality, possibly suckering them in for some curiosity sex. You could wear a fedora and change your name to Blade, that would be badass

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>what projection?
You answered it yourself
>I care about what other people think of me, but not as much as you
You assume I care what others think just because you do.

>the way you "overplay" your past like you are one of a kind simply because you had a hobby you took seriously is retarded
The level of obsession I had was indeed uncommon as shit so yes, it was "special". My obsession was indeed as uncommon as it could get.
Unfortunately, it can't be put into words.

>I've been 100th percentile in my hobbies too; I was an esports player for years - that happened because I played a lot when I was a teenager, and I was probably objectively better than you percentile wise, yet I don't even remotely identify with it or think I'm special because of it - I just had a hobby and got good, like you

You ASSUME your obsession was just as strong as mine. Again, ASSUME

I'd say any height between a hobbit and 6,4 inches. I have seen people who are normal height who had midgets for parents. I have also seen midgets who had long parents. Then there are the midgets who did hard lifting exercises and stunted their growth.

How does it feel to finally understand that it wasn't God who made you a midget. It was you yourself.

Here is a study that shows you that hard training can make you a midget.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8614759

What kinda bullshit is this? You're crying because you're short? You will kill yourself unless you get fake legs? What happens after you get the surgery and end up with nasty scars all over your legs? Then you will start another thread about how shitty it is to have scars and it makes you wear pants all the time. Fix your head, /b/ruh.

Whatever, if you want robo legs either do the surgery in the 3rd world country for cheap, or take out a bunch of loans in your country, do the surgery, and then leave to go live in a 3rd world country. Or.. just wait until your brain grows up and you accept yourself as is.

Retard. You basically said "anyone who isn't a sheep is mentally ill".

And again, you state that OPINION as a fact when it is subjective, you absolute fucking brainlet. Literally the opposite my ass.

I on the other hand am stating an OBJECTIVE FACT.

That fact being that what makes life worth it is 100% SUBJECTIVE. There IS no ONE true way of "succeeding".

You know out of desperation, I was even considering that.

The thing is, I just don't think those legs look good.

I know you care about what other people think, literally everyone does to some extent

I can easily demonstrate that you care about other people on some level by the fact that you post in this thread; what makes me think you care way too much about our opinions is the way you try to portray yourself

>I am soooooooo special
again, no, sorry - just a dude with a hobby he liked and committed to who post rationalizes his entire life as a coping mechanism

get over yourself, really

1. My doctor btfod you. Checkmate. Just face it.
2. That article only states that excessive training can potentially stunt growth but it NEVER actually states "how much". Again, it is LARGELY based on genetics. Again, this is straight of of my doctor's mouth.
So much for that "unlimited height" bs you were spouting.
3.
>I have seen
Stop right there. I don't care. Anecdotal data doesn't mean jack shit.

All in Zuckbucks and wait a few months.

go into acting, tons of actors are short as fuck.

>I know you care about what other people think, literally everyone does to some extent
Oh brother.. here we go with the projection again.

>I can easily demonstrate that you care about other people on some level by the fact that you post in this thread; what makes me think you care way too much about our opinions is the way you try to portray yourself
I don't care how others see my fucking body is the point.
I CARE about CORRECTING shit logic. I DON'T care how you see me as.

>again, no, sorry - just a dude with a hobby he liked and committed to who post rationalizes his entire life as a coping mechanism
Here we go with the equalizing bullshit again lmao.

So let's just pretend I did 1 trillion pushups with a billion lb on my back. Let's just pretend. Are you really just going to say "well I liked playing video games so I understand your obsession"?

LOOOL. This is where your logic falls apart.

You equate things that aren't equal. What you are doing is like equating 1 pushup to 1000.

Your doctor lied to you because he tried to comfort you and make you fork him more money. End of story.

You made yourself a midget, now you get to enjoy being a midget. Just remember to not be retarded in your next life and you just might make it.

we projecting love now?

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>Your doctor lied to you because he tried to comfort you and make you fork him more money. End of story.

No, more like you're a fucking idiot that can't accept when they get btfod. Doctors are blunt because lying can get them into legal trouble, idiot.

Lmao.
> 6'1
> all men in family over 6'0
> even women usually 5'10

> gf 5'0
> all men in her family 5'6 or below
> she has 30F chest

Lol sorry kids.

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Kek

you ever tried cuck bro, think people like might enjoy it.

He lied to you. And apparently he was successful and managed to make more money out of your midget ass.

Seriously, how do you think he could get into legal trouble for lying that you didn't ruin your own life? It's pathetic how you're in denial about you ruining your own life and making yourself a hobbit.

Don't worry, at least Gandalf thinks you hobbits are jolly folk.

>normies with meme depression are back
is this the beginning of the bull market?

Height is predetermined by your genetics you absolute fucking dipshit.

You are in so much denial. It's hilarious because you probably know you are a retard that is full of shit, BUT you can't swallow your pride and admit defeat so you repeat the same horseshit of "dur hur the doctor lied lolol"

Fucking retard. That is literally your argument. That the doctor lied to me.

Just... lol...

I bet even the faggots here that are against me are face palming over your shitty argument.
Talk about GRASPING AT STRAWS

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Also, by your logic, a god damn ant can become 20 feet tall with enough "nutrition" LMAO.

Just move to Asia, most men their are short height