any former or current /blackhats/ here? how did you make money? what did you scheme look like?
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Profit bandit app at the dollar store or Costco and send to Amazon
lol
Do people still go on this shithole?
wut
former blackhat here. what do you even want to know
1) is blackhatworld still a thing or a pajeet shithole?
2) how profitable is it?
3) do you regret it/what was it like
1) disgusting shithole
2) potentially very. potentially nothing
3) I do not regret it. But I will tell you what happened, so you can judge for yourself.
I was a lone blackhat. That is, I did not ever work with hacker groups or teams. I recommend this. Teams give you up, they roll on you when they get caught. Do not trust anyone. That is important.
I always worked solo, though I lurked in groups and such to keep a finger on the pulse so to speak. I hacked as much as I could, as often as I could. I did not take jobs. I hacked everything, whatever I could. I would comb through the data for anything interesting or sensitive. Basically I was just hacking all the things, curious, and looking for secrets. If I found secrets that I knew woudl be valuable to someone, I would make a note, and exfil that data, as well as establish persistence on that system, if possible.
For the data that I had that was valuable, I would keep an eye out for those parties who would be interested in purchase. Sometimes I would find someone in one of the groups I lurked upon, who would set me up with a contact for purchase or trade. Many times they wanted trade. I tried to only accept crypto payments, but sometimes they would refuse, and I would instead get information for another hack. This is annoying and dangerous. They could be setting me up.
I hoarded data and watched for buyers. The 2016 election cycle was a blessing. Everyone was buying. Most the time, I woudl sell account access, rather than actual data. The data is how they catch you. They track the data exfil and where it went, in order to find perps. I sold just the account access to where the data was, and washed my hands of the thing.
At some point, the feds took interest in my activities. I started getting hacked on all my systems. I became increasingly concerned that my activities would be discovered. I wiped systems all the time, only to be hacked again and clearly monitored. (cont)
This is interesting. Mind telling how much you made during the 2016 election? (in USD)
Police started moving in to my building. Very disconcerting. My new neighbor was the town police chief. Then more police moved in. My systems kept getting hacked. My phones acted up.
I destroyed my sim cards and ordered new ones, but the mail never showed up. I began to have cable guys show up from my ISP unannounced, wanting to come in and check my modem. They would say they needed to verify the serial number and do some bullshit, but I would refuse to let them in, because there was no problem. They threatened to cancel my service, but always left without incident.
At this time, I became very concerned. I sold whatever I could and then scrubbed all data I had. The monitoring did not stop though. I stayed offline for months, hoping to lay low, but the monitoring simply increased.
I became very paranoid and concerned. Some other events happened that convinced me that I needed to get out. I wondered how.
I wondered who could protect me from the agencies descending on me? I figured only other such powerful entities could. So I watched the election, and waited to see which groups would be viewed favorably. The answer was clear.
I contacted those agencies which clearly were in favor with the new administration, and offered my services. They acted uninterested at first, but within a few months, I was offered a high level job in cyber security, and knew my history would be forgiven. I took the job and played it straight, by the book. I stayed off devices at home. I moved several times. I changed phones, numbers, computers. I changed everything, and just did my new job.
I hope by now they have decided to let me rest.
if true that sounds like quite a saga
enough that I wouldnt have to work again.. if I had a choice
I don't regret it user. It's who I am. One cannot regret one's self for their true nature. But it was a truly terrifying ordeal, that I do not wish to return to. I hope it is over. I may never know.
is there a way to escape undetected or is it already too late if I'm using the chans lol
curious, was part of the surveillance hearing voices or some kind of extrasensory tech unknown to the public?
Lmao nice bullshit larp
the chans are only a low level red flag. the traffic coming through your ISP is the real problem. you think VPNs and all that help, but upstream collection nullifies your efforts.
If you are in deep, like I was, then I would say get out while you can. If you are really good, and have the resources, then you must travel, all the time, and do your hacking on the road. This is the only way. You must keep moving. If you do not, they will close in on you eventually.
Your only other option would be to offer your services to the agencies who can protect you from your pursuers. The government is a conglomerate of various agencies competing with one another and they do not agree on tactics. Find the ones which will take you in and you will be protected from the others. I wish it was not this way, but that is what I had to do. I hope you get out clean.
such a question is not simply curious. why do you ask
>upstream collection
Could you elaborate?
So what's the best way to start learning? I only want to start learning because my crypto gains are going to put me on the radar once /our/ coin takes off so I might as well start learning how to protect myself the moment I retire.
I could but I'm sleepy. Find me in hacker threads on /biz or find a chat where maybe I lurk.
/RPG/ seems legit
because i seem to be experiencing some of the same harassment after spending a while in the crypto underground
youre mentally ill
you too
The toppest of keks, nice larp faggots lmao. Either that or youre schizoid
You're glowing again
I used to spam /b/ years ago with a fake battlefield 3 landing page that was for a "early access beta" I just ripped the official page and added a content locker. Domain ended in .info and newfags fell for it big time. Made about $4000 in a month. Eventually the CPA company closed my account after paying out.
Second run was before YouTube was hard to spam comments. I had a fake movie site that had all the latest movies ripped automatically from IMDb. When you clicked to watch a film a short intro would play, like fox films or Sony then a fake buffer and it would ask you to fill in a survey to "prove you were human".
I got traffic by spamming YouTube trailers with comments like "films terrible, I just watched it on onlinemovies.com" or whatever the domain was I had.
That made a lot of money, eventually it was too much of a cunt to bypass YouTube's comment system and they introduced Google plus to try combat it.
I still see pajeets doing it, makes me laugh
Now I don't do black hat much except for SEO and play the long term game.
probably. started after doing much amphetamines last year, and its been going on for too damn long to be real
Interesting LARP. You have quite the imagination!
>had a fake movie site
>That made a lot of money
How did you get money from it?
Hi I'm not a hacker but I am an enthusiast about all things white, black, or grey hat in telecommunications and social engineering. Someday I'll be writing a cartoon that will rely quite a bit on having extensive knowledge on the subject and I'd like to have your contact so I could pick your brain.
[email protected] sent me a message
The visitor needs to fill in a survey or download an app or sign up to some free offer. (like Netflix or similar, usually something that is free but requires a credit card or telephone number) once they have done it they are redirected to the "content". it's called cpa affiliate marketing and the tool was a content locker.
In my case the content was a 3mb fake movie file (kek) and not a real movie so it's technically black hat and will result in a ban from the CPA affiliate network as someone will no doubt complain and it's also piracy if legit
A good example of a content locker site I came across was a motorbike site that had the pdf manuals for thousands of motorbikes. If you wanted the pdf you had to do some offer. Very good because the manuals are hard to find in digital form and it's legit so people are happy doing some shitty offer then getting their pdf file to work on their bike
>I had a fake movie site that had all the latest movies ripped automatically from IMDb. When you clicked to watch a film a short intro would play, like fox films or Sony then a fake buffer and it would ask you to fill in a survey to "prove you were human"
Ha. I used to hate those sites.
stop larping faggot. "blackhat" world nowadays is a discord server full with 17 year olds from hackforums selling spotify accounts and spambots. there is rarely any actual hackers and they wont sure as shit advertise themselves on the web. the best you can do is to get into a carding gang, which i myself have not yet managed to do. everyone is looking to make money, nobody knows how to.
>I began to have cable guys show up from my ISP unannounced
That is why the most important aspect of OPSEC is to NEVER use an internet connection related to your name. If the ISP can't 100% confirm that the traffic comes from (you) no judge nor investigative agency can get (you) as they would risk busting their own investigations.
I should also say don't touch movie sites, you need to know what your doing these days. Everything bought with BTC, offshore hosting, DMCA friendly nameservers and living somewhere safe from the law. You also need to think about monetising it because the usual AdSense type ways won't work.
I stopped the site shortly after that kid in England got sent to jail for just listing newly released scene releases for movies. No download links, literally the same as what a google search would do. Boomer judge sent him down.
Whitehat is way more profitable than blackhat. There is no reason to blackhat unless you like destroying things. You can continue to blackhat while you whitehat from a 2nd physical location anyways, so there is no reason not to have a legit security job while running bullshit on the side.
Remote pen testers and cyber security consultants make 250k+ a year from anywhere plus bonuses. Cybersecurity managers make 150k+ to do nothing with no accountability.
Blackhat? Pfft....maybe you score big once or twice after years of effort. Probably not. Probably you just scrape bottom of the barrel bullshit and barely make a living while having massive and permanent risk to your freedom. No thanks.
It is way more fun helping catch script kiddies and chink botnets than it is playing hackerman.
>working for the traitors to secure their social security and pensions
No amount of money can buy that treason. You will end like your bosses, tied up hanging from a noose with your families carcasses at the bottom
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most of u guys are total niggers tho fuck blackhats
Most of your guys are mental Boomers who invested their live blood into institutional paradigms on decline since 30 years. The noose awaits, no pity for the old.
>I started getting hacked on all my systems
How exactly? Did you have weak security?
I used to run Blackhat affiliate scams on Facebook ads using cloakers. Mostly used fake news landing pages saying that some celeb or politician endorsed a wealth system.
The “wealth system” was a binary options scam that required a $250 deposit. I got paid around $700 per first time deposit depending on the country.
Would generally cost me $100-$300 to get a FTD so ROI averaged around 200%.
I stopped because the guilt became too much and I realized how poisonous and wrong it was.
didn't you read his posts, that amateur was hacking from home with unspoofed Macs and his ISP having all his info. But tbf guess he is larping. Interestingly a bunch of intelligence head hunters are currently lurking and posting on Jow Forums trying to recruit.
I wonder if they are gone take the bait
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