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They're the type of goys to raise their pets as children but get disgusted by actual children

I like veganist principles but find it impossible to follow as we have limited knowledge about what is sentient and to what extent our actions determine suffering.
What I don't like about veganism is that it is often taken as an all or nothing approach. Removing pain from other beings. How unrealistic and unachievable.
Minimizing pain for the purpose it is derived for shall be the driving principle, but inferential heuristic unfotunately are not within the range of action of

Anyway how do I cure my claustrophobia?

For what it's worth on an user imageboard, I was vegan for multiple years, and quit simply because every other vegan I've known was kind of a cunt, and they love spreading lies if it promotes their agenda. But I guess most identity groups are.

>but would never beat you up or kill you over it
Yeah, well, that's illegal, and I don't know if prisons have vegan options. What is sentience anyway, the brain is just a big blob that shoots electricity from place to place and adjusts route weights in accordance to feedback. You're treating biological creatures like something pure and sacred when we're not too different from germs or plants, we all react and adapt to feedback, that's it. And the facts are that being a wagie today, is much comfier and safer than it was being a wagie 100 years ago stuck in a coal mine, and that has nothing to do with vegans, life simply gets better, because everyone understands that what goes around comes around. Even the elite knows this, and they try to keep the world relatively safe since their children walk on it too.

I'm vegan for my health. Everything I eat is death.

Anglo here. I don't eat that shit. The happier the animals I eat are, the better the food tastes. Industrial and farmed meat should be illegal.

Of course. Our knowledge of biology is still developing, but veganism is often misconstrued as an all or nothing ideology. That's not the case. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism--I agree with this common counter-point. But that's a poor reason to say that because you can't live perfect, there's no point to living your best following those principles.

If you were a lifeguard witnessing a wave dragging many people out--do you not save any because you can't save all of them? Vegans that are obsessed with perfection miss the point entirely. While you can't live without causing some harm no matter what you do as long as you live in society, the ones you do save because of making choices that would reduce your impact the most--DOES matter to that creature you'll never know.

That one burger you decided not to buy, which told the chain to order one less to restock, which told the farmer to kill one less cow this market cycle--it's all supply and demand. And with the recent surge of veganism in the past few years, we've seen how many people deciding to do this has an affect on the industry.

Too many people these days believe that if you can't do it 100%, it's not worth doing, which are lies fed by the media to get rid of the motivation of the working class. That train of thought is a slippery slope you can apply to anything as an excuse to not do something. Wannabe artists that give up because they aren't an expert after a month. Diets that people fail because they fucked up once and think it's ruined--humans are fallable, it's fucking stupid to live with the expectation that you're the exception. Advancements in society have always been from the pursuit of perfection even though it'll never be reached, but that doesn't mean it's been worthless. Goals are what give people reason to live.

Would be good.

Nah I'm not treating them as something special, I just recognize that pain sucks and that if I can live causing less of it to other shit that can feel pain, I see no good reason not to.

I would say you're not a dumb cunt, but you butt in out of nowhere to tell us that you're vegan, so congratulations on perpetuating the vegan stereotypes.

Go in a tight enclosed space and wait for nothing to happen and realise that they aren't actually scary

>business and finance

why are you projecting onto fucking shellfish
if you run out of things to feel bad about will you start imbuing the very air with a soul so that you can critique other people for breathing?

perhaps the most bluepilled redditpost i've ever read on this site

>What is sentience anyway, the brain is just a big blob that shoots electricity from place to place and adjusts route weights in accordance to feedback
god i can't stop fucking laughing

What are the creatures inside the bottles?

Sleep in a coffin. Rig it with a timer so you can't get out until the morning.

>not beeing an opportunist carnivore
There's nothing worse than blindly following ideologies.
I eat as little animal products as possible, but if I'm beeing offered dead shit I'm going to eat it. Doesn't make it alive again and I don't have have to argue about veganism etc.

Unironically this works and it's called exposure therapy. Don't forget the air holes. It depends on how small the space is too, getting on elevators alone rather than locking yourself in a small confined room is probably better.

reminds me of this poor bastard. this froggo climbed into this rock when it was small enough to fit, then became a fatass and couldn't get back out. it lived off passing insects and drops of water. its entire life spent inside a fucking rock.

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whats that creatura?

lobsters, kept in bottles so they can be kept in the same tank without killing eachother.

serves them well. literally cucked by a pug

based neet frog

Sounds ok though