The What, the Why, and the How of 0xBitcoin:

here's a search confined to feb of 2018.
google.com/search?q=0xbitcoin&source=lnt&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:2/1/2018,cd_max:2/28/2018&tbm=

doesn't really look like they were trying to keep it a secret, does it?.
the code was up on github on feb 6, there was a web site on feb 10.

>people were talking about it on biz within a little over a week.
But you just said you could only find one thread within the first month. 1 thread in a month is not "talking about it"

The miners were still being developed. An open-source NodeJS CPU miner was released first and volunteers enhanced it with C++ hashing code, then GPU miners were developed and are still being improved
If someone posted it on biz at that point, people would still call it a premine because they don't know how to run a command-line application

one thread on biz.
which is kind of my point. 0xbitcoin was nothing to do with biz, much less invented by biz.

>The What, the Why, and the How
>The Chasni, the Peshwari and the Poo

>But you just said you could only find one thread within the first month.
to clarify, what i said was that the earliest mention i could find of 0xbitcoin on biz was feb 14, a bit over a week after the contract was deployed. not that there was only one thread in february.
this is EXTREMELY original, i've never heard anything like this on biz. thank you so much for these insights.

>If someone posted it on biz at that point, people would still call it a premine
But the devs were still mining, correct? So your rationalisation is "we better premine this before we shill it, or people will call it a premine"?
Sounds kinda funny to me.

i'm going to try to explain this again very clearly.
the contract was deployed on feb 6 2018.
it was announced within hours that same day.
the code was on github that same day.
the main web site was up on the 10th.
there was a subreddit within a few days.
the first biz thread was after about a week.
the discord was created on the 11th.
THERE WAS NO SECRET PREMINING,
THERE WAS NO SECRET VIP PERIOD.

the devs? lol, what on testnet?! the developers were too busy actually developing and it's often actually more economical to buy the tokens from miners with bigger hardware who are selling. i heard about this token from a Reddit discord. Mind blown!

Most people were in no rush to post here because who wants biztards posting "poo pee poo poo pajeet soldier" on the discord? and when you guys did start showing up, half of you posted racial slurs with garbage meme accounts. Fucking hopeless
see? like this moron, exactly that

>the first biz thread was after about a week.
A week of early mining when the difficulty is low is huge. And really, you only found one thread in that first month. I'm still inclined to call that a month before the shilling started.
Yes devs often own powerful mining equipment, especially for post-2017 pow coins.

>A week of early mining when the difficulty is low is huge.
you seem obsessed with the idea that somebody is trying to fool you.
what could infernal toast have done better? announced that he was GOING to deploy the contract?
"hey, everybody, get this mining software ready to mine the first ever minable ERC20 token! i'll put the contract up in a month to give everyone time to get ready!"
announce it on biz, you're a shill. don't announce it on biz, you're premining.
>And really, you only found one thread in that first month.
no, you just keep saying that. i wanted to post the FIRST thread i could find because it contradicted the idea that 0xbitcoin is "biz invented".
here's more activity from february: warosu.org/biz/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=0xbitcoin&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=2018-01-01&search_dateto=2018-03-01&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=old&search_capcode=all&search_res=post
>Yes devs often own powerful mining equipment, especially for post-2017 pow coins.
everyone was mining with nodejs. yes, that is the truth, even the contract author was mining with not just cpu, but a miner written in javascript.

>you seem obsessed with the idea that somebody is trying to fool you.
user, are you aware of where you are?

yes, ok, it's very reasonable to be skeptical. but please be persuaded by evidence.

Man are you retarded? biz is not all there is you know

The guy told you that there was a post on medium just a few hours after the deployment.
If infernal_toast was trying to keep it a secret why would he post on medium?

Fudding a mineable token. Nonstop shilling a daily dump russian useless "api scrambling" scam. Never change, biz. Never change.

guys like this don't realize 0xBitcoin isn't a single asset, it's a new way to do cryptocurrency, leveraging the smart contract capabilities of Ethereum and the scarcity and soundness of PoW. That's why ERC-918 was created and is now a part of Ethereum, and we're going to see lots of mineable tokens. More are popping up all the time. People can dislike 0xBTC because they weren't one of the hundreds of people mining at the very beginning but they'll have plenty of opportunities later. And with merged mining they won't have to split up the hashrate to mine multiple tokens

The first miners were on CPUs, people are still mining on GPUs, FPGA mining only started taking off at all much later. This is verifiable and I'll tell you how to do it if you want

The question becomes, "do I mine a token and only risk the cost of electricity", "do I buy a mineable token that I think is a good investment, but that I resent people found out about before I did" or "I'm going to buy an ICO token sold by a monarch that he started with 100% of, at whatever price he says"

i can't understand the line of thinking that would choose the latter option from those

Looks like you're mad no one is buying your shitcoin anymore faggot. Deal with it

>Looks like you're mad
nope.
>no one is buying your shitcoin anymore
wrong. you think the miners are donating 10TH/s?

>please be persuaded by evidence.
I am very persuaded by the evidence you present that the devs were mining for a week before shilling started.

Because toastie got banned from several subreddits for trying to shill his scam lol.
You're correct user. These cunts mined for a whole month before they posted their first thread and it already had a mining pool. Ignore these lying pajeets.

ok, you might be a hopeless case.
let's consider it from a different angle. what should the contract deployer have done differently that would have been correct in your eyes?
you are just a pure retard, there's no point trying to talk to you.

Sprinkling magic burger crumbs on centralized api data makes it totally decentralized and oh my gawd so BbALUUABLE. Yes. Buy more chainlink. Ignore OXBTC.

It is 25 cents a coin who the fuck cares blah this blah that, they just trying to move the goal posts so they can accumulate. etherscan.io/token/0xb6ed7644c69416d67b522e20bc294a9a9b405b31?a=0xa0ca05ef0b36977ad8bd845dd51d21b9f741f60b
Has bought the bottom perfectly while we wait for confirmation bias

Do the needful buy 0xbtc and stay poor

>you are just a pure retard, there's no point trying to talk to you.
Thank you for confirming that you cunts were mining it way earlier than you were saying, Rajeesh. Now come back tomorrow so you can attempt to scam people again.
Also here's a tip for your discord buddies, stop posting within a minute of each other, it's embarassing.

you can't read.
you can't comprehend what we're saying.
you don't know anything about this project.
you are just too stupid to try to talk to. sorry.

Sure thing, Comrade Dumbass.

>let's consider it from a different angle. what should the contract deployer have done differently that would have been correct in your eyes?
Let me get this straight -- you want me to design a worthwhile altcoin, off the top of my head and in the time it takes for this thread to be archived.
And if I can't perform this feat, that will somehow prove your coin has merit?
That doesn't seem fair.

>No arguments.
Man who the fuck pays you guys to shill this shitcoin? So fucking terrible at doing your jobs.

I am absolutely right Rajeesh. You are poor and you deserve to stay poor.

So me dumping my bags at $4 never happened. Thanks Sanjay! What's even more laughable is that I think I know how you are on the Discord.

no, all i'm asking is, what should the contract author have done differently?
you seem dissatisfied that he announced the project on the day the contract was deployed.
should he have announced that he was GOING to deploy the contract before he did it or what?

Build an audience via reddit, twitter
Have a GPU miner ready

you are also too stupid to talk to.
if you can't read this thread and understand what's going on, at least please stop making noise.

I am definitely smarter than you and that shows because I dont hold this garbage shitcoin so kindly fuck off Pudoo Patel. Also you're terrible at shilling this dogshit scam.

>Build an audience via reddit, twitter
for a crypto project that is not even deployed? in early 2018?
>Have a GPU miner ready
what difference would it make? iirc at least two separate devs developed open source gpu miners within a month or so.

sounds like you got burnt hard user. but dont blame the pump and dump on a decentralised, dev-less coin. blame it on the biz shills who bought in early and then pnd on idiots that fall for biz pnd schemes. the coin still has alot of volume and is at an organic and healthy price point now.

I am allowed to point out flaws without having to fix them myself. If someone's time machine doesn't work, I am allowed to point that out without having to build one myself.
Similarly, I can point out that mining for a week before starting your shill campaign is not good, without having to propose an alternative.

Sir, the police is here. Your token has been recognized as a global threat. You are arrested. The tokens will be confiscated and the markets closed.

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So shilling on Jow Forums (by the devs) is a requirement for a coin to be considered legit?

there was no fucking shill campaign. can you expand your mentality beyond stupid stuff like "shilling"? it is a fucking PROJECT. if any "shilling" was done, it was by biz people, not people associated with the project.
the contract deployer wrote the contract, and a whitepaper, and an ethereum enhancement proposal, and mining software, and made everything available for free. right after deploying the contract, he announced it. very quickly, word spread to reddit, discord, bitcointalk, blah blah blah, all over the place. he never made any secret of it at all and he gave everyone everything they might need to get involved from the very beginning!!
but you're still suspicious. i ask you what he should have done differently and you don't know. shrug.

Infernal_Toastie did shill this shit himself on here and a couple of other forums. His retarded ass is too stupid to delete the posts which can be found via Google and he was getting bans left and right.

based, op eternally btfo and /thread

don't get worked up, it's not that big of a deal. this thing would still be worthless with or without the premine

>there was no fucking shill campaign
You can't expect a statement like that to be taken seriously. This very thread is part of it.

Most subs censor anything that is a threat to them. I don't see why anyone in the world cares about a subreddit censoring an idea, not new, not important.

Hahahaha this. Man you shills are stupid as hell. No one buy this scam.

perfectly valid opinion, i don't care if you buy. i just want to correct misinformation.
please at least read the thread. i was responding to the idea that there was some period of premining and then 0xbitcoin STARTED THE BIG SHILL CAMPAIGN. it's bullshit, there's nothing like that in the discord logs.
i don't know who started this thread. i never start threads.
idiot. if you say it's a scam, explain the scam. but we know you can't.

The writing is on the wall u stupid blind faggot. This is a shitcoin thats going nowhere retard 0 fucking purpose. Bags heavy eh motherfucker?

>Censoring
He got banned for not abiding by the subreddit rules and he did so intentionally to shill his bags to as many soibois as possible. But why would the developer shill this brilliant project at all? Surely such a great idea and incredible technology attracts invetors on their own? topkek

>please at least read the thread
That's pretty rude.

He has weaker bags than almost everyone on the project IMO, also ETH was banned from most Bitcoin subs...

>lies about stuff that can be googled
Yup, I believe you, Rajeesh. ETH was banned from most Bitcoins subs but then again Toastie got banned from ETHTrader as well. Hmmmm.....

ETHTrader is complete shit and I have read it for years nothing worthwhile ever gets discussed in the dailies. Also why would they want a real Store of Value to be discussed when they are all heavy bagged in ETH the uncapped uncontrolled gas of the network.

sorry, it's a hectic environment. the point is, there was never any moment where the contract deployer or devs of related projects said "ok, now let's begin the shill campaign". they just don't think like that.

heavy bags? i'd get out now and buy cruzbit instead. first cycle coming.

Fake news.
If you were *really* going to mine it back then you would have already been on miner discords, that you were waiting for busy developers to spoon feed it to you, here on your anime forum?

i guess everything is premined for you with that attitude.
please knock it off with the knee-jerk responses that show you not only weren't there but also won't research

Reality check!

he posted about the token along with a lot of crypto-philosophical posts about sound money on medium and the contract code, miner, all this stuff not only on reddit, but Discord and other places. The insular subreddits naturally disliked anything that went against whatever shitty ICO tokens the mods were holding

He doesn't delete old posts because he doesn't have to. He mines with a single GPU and buys on Uniswap the last time I checked

The fact that these threads are still getting 50+ replies has me incredibly bullish for 0xBTC, honestly. I've had my doubts bagholding but people cannot get over this stupid token. There's almost nothing to promote -- it's a finished project and side projects are slowly progressing -- but there's nothing at all to fud, either. There's really nothing new to discuss, and yet people can't help but jumping into these threads and shitposting against it. It's hilarious and, seriously, really makes me think.

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frogman!!! wow you never fail to disappoint with your baseless racist 0xbtc FUD. just wanted to remind you of the asskicking you took in this thread:

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Absolute madman!

Haters are just seething retards that didn't buy 0xbtc in spring 2018 like me and sold in june
(I didn't lol, still not mad as i see great potential in this project)

same. 4k stack here. I'm gonna make it

Its tanking right now so whats stopping this coin from being a good buy atm??
Seems like it will return back to its normal value with the market.

I would say it's a strong buy, but are you looking at a 1m chart or something? price is great rn

Its still tanking. Lowest its been in a while. Will not buy until other coins show improvement

Also the sell order book seems more suspicious than other coins. Very repetitive sell orders.
At one point it was all 75s. I honestly find this to be the most suspicious coins on CB atm.

But the support at 0.001 ETH is stable for months now, in terms of usd it retraced from the $0.40 top but still forms a solid higher low at $0.25, compared to the absolute bottom around $0.12 last year.
Also there are not really big sells coming and the liquidity/spread looks better than ever imo.

Something unrelated, Mercatox just added tradingview charts, it looks so much better now and the trend is more clearly visible.

I think those are sell orders from miners, at least they are somewhat passive now and don't dump as soon as there are a few buy orders

what's CB? no one is trading it there probably? that's probably why. it's the first orders of a new market

Possibly ive been watching it for a couple days now. I turned a little profit on its regularities.
Its pretty volatile atm tho the order book is adjusting rapidly.
Coinbase Pro my dude. Also its been available for a month.

While you all are here. Does anyone have the run down on Tezos? What do you think it will stabilize to. I'm catching a profit on its downward cycle but I have never researched the coin and have no idea how low this this is supposed to go.
Like we all knew Chainlink is stabilized to 2.30-2.40 but Tezos was just added to CB and has yet to find its goldilocks zone.

>Coinbase Pro
What? You're in a 0xBTC thread here, what are you talking about?

ox bitcoin

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but ETH/BTC is up so what do you expect

That's ZRX not 0xBTC

0x == ZRX
ZRX != 0xBTX

>dev-less aka useless
>lots of volume aka bot trading
>organic/healthy aka dumping since last year

>dev-less
That can also be seen as a positive thing. It is what it is, a finished product. The contract is immutable and you can't get fucked over by some sell-out developer decisions.

>lots of volume aka bot trading
Yes, Mercatox does show fake trades in the history.
No, those are not bot trades since the orders don't even properly show up in the orderbooks (only for milliseconds) and Mercatox doesn't even offer a trading API. So it's not some wash trading market maker who could be able to control the price to his liking but only the exchange artificially pushing up its volume numbers, which doesn't say anything about 0xbtc.

>organic/healthy aka dumping since last year
I'd root for organic/healthy, orderbooks are filling up pretty well atm. Anytime a big buy/sell takes out a chunk of the orderbook it gets refilled pretty quickly and doesn't change the price more than a few percent.

bamp

buy 1000 for a suicide stack and forget about it

Bumping your own thread on multiple ids.... Are you even trying at this point?

>buy 1000 for a suicide stack and forget about it

agree. i'm a 0xbtc supporter but not trying to shove it down anyone's throat. buy whatever you can afford to lose and then forget about it.

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