When did you realize that you literally can't make it in life being a niceguy pushover...

When did you realize that you literally can't make it in life being a niceguy pushover? I realized that recently when I thought about how much every businessowner or successful person cheats in some way.

How do I change my mindset from being a beta to doing whatever it takes to win?

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Her punched, Nazi

Don't be a pushover but dont be a dick if your planning on going far, people die for king and country not assholes and gold, and for good reason.

Get* punched

I realized it when I was about 17 or 18, around then anyways.

Businesses do what's best for themselves but that doesn't mean they are cheating

soibois and feminists in dire need of a good fuck are wrong about a lot of things, but their assessment of the type of people who tend to define themselves as "niceguy pushovers" is unironically close to the truth
basically, if you're doing something good because you expect something in return, the problem isn't your good deed, but your expectation. in the absence of that reward, your behavior ends up increasingly strained until you either explode in the worst way or collapse in resentment
be honest about your desires, to yourself and to others. that is how you get her to like you (we all know this is what this topic is really about). you can behave like an absolute beta and still land a 10/10 if you are unapologetic about it. success comes in a thousand different forms, you just need to stop behaving like a sick puppy. the same principles apply to women and business deals in that regard. you've got to sell, and nobody's buying sick puppies. maybe they'll pity it, but they sure as hell are not paying money for it nor marrying it

stop being Christian

You have to learn how to say no user.
>Gee user, that sounds a little steep. Can you do better on the price?
No
>Can you have it done by tomorrow user?
Yes, here is the revised pricing with our standard expedited processing fee.
>That puts us outside of our budget, can you work with us on the expedite fee?
No
>Oh, I thought you would just bill us net30
No. Terms were not discussed prior to us processing the order. We accept company check, cash, visa, mastercard, amex, and bitcoin. Payment is due at pickup.
>you told me the cost was going to be x and now your telling me it's going to be y.
Correct. you didn't tell me the scope of work also incudes a, b, and c.
>can you skip those to keep the price down?
no. we don't do half ass work.

I know the cost to provide my services which includes a liveable wage for my employees. I then add 30% for taxes and 30% for myself. Any extra profit from jobs i over estimated gets distributed as bonuses to my employees and dividends to me. I don't screw anyone over, ever. I just know what my crew and I are worth and how much better we are than our competition and make sure I charge accordingly. user, in business or in life, if someone is trying to fuck with your time or money, or treats you like a fool who can be walked all over, tell them to fuck off. You don't have the time to deal with that bull shit and it's costing you money simply thinking about it. God damn this job would be great if it weren't for the 1 in 20 horrible fucking cunts of customers.

What job is this?

IRL business owner, the kind that doesn't cheat or fuck people over as the OP stated

OP seriously man, I went through some shit in my early 20's that included a few years bout with self loathing and depression. After just getting fed up with it I finally had the epiphany of understanding that if I can't love and respect myself nobody else is going to either. It takes time but life gets much, much better once you've swallowed that pill.

The world doesnt owe you anything for being a nice guy.

It's hard, but you will get used to it. Most humans are not much smarter than animals.
Especially as a male, you have to be somewhat dominant to succeed in life.
It will take a while to develop a strong personality tho. Start copying others first. Successfull friends and even some movies/shows are a good start. Mike in Better call Saul for example is a very well written charakter, doesn't talk a lot and is still very dominant.

You are not allowed to be a bad boy when you‘re ugly, sorry. You could buy harmony and become a rich beta provider tho

Yes but what industry is it?

it's an outside processing service used by the industrial MFG, Aerospace, and automotive industries.

Oh because it sounded applicable to my job (trucking)

funny, my dad was a trucker. I'd get out of that industry if you're depressed. Too much alone time, too much time sitting on your ass, and self driving is going to fuck you in the next 2 decades. Consider a career change, I've always found that I feel better after making major life changes, even if the response isn't immediate.

I'm not a driver I work as a broker, it's pretty easy money and quite flexible but I don't enjoy it at all

how old are you?

25, why?

Because if you are young and childless you need to take risks. Hate your job? Good, quit and get another one or start your own business. Hate your gf? Tell her to kick rocks. Family or friends holding you back? Drop them like a bad habit. I was like 28 or 29 when I turned it all around, you're only 25, there is plenty of time to build the life you want for yourself and I'd recommend starting ASAP. Don't sit around and wait for life to happen to you bud, that's what women, children, and losers do. If you struggle with confidence go to the gym and start lifting. Temper your humility, strength, and confidence then take that shit outside and bend this fucking world to your will.

Problem is I'm scared I'll be forced into a worse job if I quit

Many people are like that. It's not just business owners or successful people. Being nice and considerate towards other people doesn't necessarily mean they'll treat you the same way. In fact, the more of a nice guy you are (or appear to be), the more you'll get exploited. On the other hand, acting aggressive and dominant won't work when you have no power. It's a balancing act.

Don't think of the short term. Think of the long term. The more you act like a doormat, the more people will treat you as such. You don't want that image to stick to you. Don't fall for the sunk cost fallacy (i.e., continue being a doormat under the hope that the other person would change or offer you something in the future). If worst comes to worst, just cut ties with the person.

do it faggot, dont belive your own lies, i am 37, dont wait like i did, because life wont wait

so update your resume and use vacation or sick days to go to interviews. Or keep your job and start a small side business related to one of your hobbies. You can make excuses or find happiness, but not both.

Oops, meant to reply to OP

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He speaks the truth, take as much risks as you can in your 20s

You are right user, I will do this. D oyou have any other advice for me?