As the subject says. I've no credible experience in sales. Yet I was a drug dealer for 10 years of my life and bounced a bar simultaneously while managing a restaurant.
I'm an exceptionally charismatic person, can usually go any where and talk with anyone. Thing is, I just don't know where to start and the last interview I did had simply told me that while I'm fascinating. I lack experience.
So does any one have any advice on how to break into this field? I've kept going to local meetings to net work, but it seems like a very ego driven world that is dominated by nepotism thus far.
Just keep going to interviews. Eventually someone will let you in.
Nathaniel Baker
If what you say is true it's a numbers game. If you're not in after 5-10 at-bats, go find a fucking entry level call center sales gig they'll hire anyone with a pulse and you can cut your teeth on upselling
Blake Kelly
> Wants to break into sales > Can't sell himself to employers I'd say you're not as cut out for this as you may think.
Angel Martinez
Seems good advice. Though do you have any advice on the general culture for sales people?
Daniel Hernandez
start with consumer cell phone sales for an att/verizon/tmobile store or at a place like bestbuy/apple store. For retail wagies they make decent money ($20k-$30k if you're average) and then try to move directly with the carriers into b2b sales, if that fails go into sales for places like yelp/yellowpages/google, high churn rates and its a grind, but their standards are pretty low, get some experience and results there then start looking into bigger companies that are selling big contracts instead of low margin goods/services for the big $$$
Evan Gray
oh other companies for phase 2 of your master plan: square, stipe, paypal, facebook, etc. basically any big tech company that sells businesses marketing and/or payment/credit card processing.
Xavier Peterson
I make 50k a year now. I feel like I'd be being abused for any thing less than 40k. I turned down a position that wanted me for 30k and very shitty commission as a contractor, I offered 35k and was told 30 and a buss pass.
My self worth may be too high, but I turned a rock into a house and three cars, while having enough to pay for a 100$ an hour lawyer. Not to mention verbally stopping a shoot out, and a planned murder. These skills may not be the exact same, but I know people. I feel like my Achilles heel here is that I've not been able to elaborate on how I have sales experience besides marketing for a restaurant.
>Herself Maybe I'm inexperienced? Maybe I'm not taken serious? Perhaps I'm coming off as a joke? Perhaps I'm being too confident and come off as some one just telling them what they want to hear?
Carson Campbell
So do you really believe that I should start at the lowest rung? I don't like the idea, but it has crossed my mind doing a phone sales job about 10 hours a week, just to have some one verifiable say that I swim like a fish.
Hudson Wilson
I can't identify which of those is your problem, but again if you can't sell yourself to employers it doesn't bold well for you. You honestly thinking that because you were a drug dealer you'd be a good salesman is kind of laughable. It's pretty much like a 7-11 attendant making the same argument because they sold a lot of gas. People came to you because you had drugs, not because of your sales ability, like people go to 7-11 because they have gas, not because the kid behind the counter is skilled in gas sales.
Brandon Miller
Why not continue living like a degenerate? Planned murders, dealing drugs? You want to blend in with Norman sales people now and grind it out?
Jose Brooks
See, I got a friend that keeps getting baffled I'm not getting hired. They do sales for Verisk and pull ed in 76 last year and I taught them.
Not to play victim or any thing, but I'm amazon mode being a Tongan. I've wondered if taking a year off lifting would make me look more appealing to people.
Isaac Lewis
>My self worth may be too high, but I turned a rock into a house and three cars, while having enough to pay for a 100$ an hour lawyer. Not to mention verbally stopping a shoot out, and a planned murder. >These skills may not be the exact same, but I know people. I feel like my Achilles heel here is that I've not been able to elaborate on how I have sales experience besides marketing for a restaurant. user, you're pretty fucking based. if you can do all that with drug buyers who are some of the most irrational people in the world you can do pretty much anything. i think your options here would be to continue interviewing for higher paying jobs while being a wagie for a year in an entry level sales position and build your resume to prove your worth as a salesperson in a corporate setting. if you can go to a potential employer and say "average wagie at current job sells x amount in a year, i was able to sell x amount" and as long as your amount is significantly above average that'll raise eyebrows and secure you a position. best of luck to you. changing careers most of the time it's expected you'll start at the bottom making shitty pay but you know what you're doing and you won't have to stay at the bottom long. you're gonna make it, fren
Eli Nguyen
I'm sure any freight brokerage would hire you... Not that it's a good place to work but you'll get sales experience... at a cost...
You assume much in your theories about how that world actually works for people whom aint dead or in prison. I never touched a thing after my first oz. Thats where the sales and networking came in. I can elaborate if you would like. I've been out for years. I got tired of it. You live a life of secrecy and constant paranoia. It keeps you from bonding with people. It turns people into tools to be used until they no longer serve a purpose. I can't beat the system, so I want to join it and be able to quit looking over my shoulder and immediately looking at every one as either a threat or a smiley-glad hand snake.
Evan Hall
>but I turned a rock into a house and three cars, while having enough to pay for a 100$ an hour lawyer
Wait you have a house and 3 cars? Why the fuck are you wagecucking for a pittance?
Asher Phillips
That's what my brain and gut has been telling me. Just keep on pushing and wait. Many people look at say a rusted out nova and decide "It's worthless" and pass up a fine profit by simply being unwilling to sand, repaint, and clean some rods. I'm waiting for the man or woman that can realize I just need 1-3 months to learn and then I'll be profitable. Was just hoping some one else had some insight here into the world, and what's really favored in candidates. I've never been too proud to seek another perspective, but like any human. I enjoy when my feelings and ideas are validated. Thanks user.
Gabriel Long
I have a house yes. I have one car now. Gave my "blend in" car to my mom when hers broke down. Sold my roushe to pay medical bills for a dear friend whom still didn't make it. Breast cancer. Now I drive a starting to show its age Prius.
The reason why I want to do this is that currently? I'm only net working with mid class people. I want to become associated with movers, people that can buy influence eventually. I took my time in stasis. I want to have enough money to ensure that whatever town I settle in will become a model of how to survive the collapse of our current society.
Joseph Myers
No, I know plenty about drug dealing in general, I have bought and sold every thing from weed, coke, to PCP to the obscenely rare drugs like pure DMT and concentrated LSA. Again, it has very little to do with actual sales. If you were such an incredible salesman, you'd be able to sell yourself to employers, especially when you have tits ffs.
Jack Murphy
Do you know anyone that you could hire to kill me? I could donate my bags.
Eli Campbell
So we could go over this back and forth all night. In the end, you'll be confident in yours and I'll be confident in mine. In the end, the full details of our experiences are the extent of what we know and believe.
I ask this, do you have any solid advice to give? In my experience there are two dominant types of people that simply criticize belittle.
1: They're extremely knowledged. Often they'll teach if asked and respected.
2: They're total fucking morons that should be ignored and disregarded because they've got nothing to lose and nothing to gain.
Which one are you? Give me advice that helps my situation or go do some thing productive or relaxing. As you're either knowledged and I'd love to hear your input? Or useless to my attention.
Hunter Carter
its not dread Pirate Roberts ffs, go away fbayy
Daniel Richardson
No luckily I stopped being a degenerate years and years ago. Nothing like making legitimate money with no concerns of cops or fellow criminals on a constant basis.
Austin Allen
Fuck you guys. I’m done.
Ryder Walker
What type of sales are you trying to get into? "Sales" is too broad. What field? Cars, automation, food, appliances, uniforms, etc. Inside/outside? Are you looking to sell a product, service, etc.
Saying you want to get a "sales job" means absolutely nothing.
Jack Perry
Well I'm glad to help you, but I've never claimed to be a master salesman. I like you had quite a bit experience with narcotics sales both buying and selling. This is not to be insulting, but as an actual professional long removed from that lifestyle, there's little to no similarities. My sales in that regard were pointed to people I knew for a fact wanted narcotics that I had to offer. If anything this is closest to inside sales. You'd have to have a great deal of knowledge about the product to convince any legitimate employer offering an inside sales position, just as I'm sure you were knowledgeable about the drugs you sold. My point still stands that if you're at all a good salesman by nature, you'll be able to sell yourself to an employer, so as others said just keep at it I guess. As a woman, sales is literally ez mode. The sales staff of my employer, a nationwide 3PL, is all absurdly attractive women for a reason.
Angel Wilson
>nationwide 3PL
You're a freightcuck too?
Hunter Nelson
Yep. Ops manager of a 500K sq ft cross dock.
Ethan Price
Any advice for a freightbroker that wants to quit and find a job that isn't shit?
Asher Morales
oh, we all done here user. so Pic Related or STFU and get on with it I recommend the latter
Thanks for meeting me on the half. I simply thought there was a translation via starting out as a block kid. Running a hood and then vanishing and only communicating through burners and dead drops through people that never knew me. Figured it had been a matter of being able to weigh the situations of people that would take the risk and be an asset.
The one where the guy didn't hire me alone due to experience was a solar company I was very interested in. I go in, tend to say the research I've done. My main belief is in Nash's equilibrium for warm relationships. Though I wonder if that sounds like "Oh you just google searched a term and use a buzzword."
Wouldn't say I'm an attractive woman either.
Luke Green
More like exceptionally autistic with your lack of self confidence
Jackson Nelson
If you're in Phoenix I'll give you a sales job.
Matthew James
Salt Lake City. Whats the job?
Angel Bell
Shit, you're in Salt Lake City? Go work for the three billion alarm companies around there. I knew/know dudes making serious money selling security and home automation.
Colton Diaz
Vivint really rubbed me the wrong way when I heard some douchebag whitebros bragging about being predatory on fixed income retirees. Perhaps I'm being silly if I want to be ethical?
Joshua Morris
I got into sales and my only experience was foh fast casual dining and bouncing as well. It’s all about whether or not you wanna put the grind in, I got in commission only and made like 48 my first year, 100 year 2 and on pace for 130 this year (they cut our commissions in half and gave us a whack 1/4 of our last years salary) so we kinda got chopped down a bit. Still worthwhile once you have a book but top sales reps do get churned and burned sometimes when the company feels like they’re paying you too much
Andrew Ross
>so well off I paid for a $100 an hour lawyer >everyone in thread: omg you’re so rich Sometimes I read things on Jow Forums that still surprise me. $100 an hour is a paralegal rate. My first year accounting grads bill at a higher rate. OP is white trash who thinks he saved the day cause someone didn’t get murdered while he was watching. You are all fucking brainlets.
create fake experiences in europe / asia if you were so charismatic that you say they would take you i came with an empty paper only experience was infantry sergeant in a shithole country and they took me to sell bikes >30,000$ to old rich men
Lincoln Scott
I have an opportunity to be a salesman for securitas (verisure) is it that good?
