They had that loving feeling.
Where are the DAG fudders at?
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DAG FUD BREAKDOWN:
In May 2018 a whistleblower claimed the former CEO Brendan Playford was day trading with investors funds for massive losses with full knowledge and encouragement from the current team and their current CEO Ben Jorgensen. The team refused to deny it wasn’t true and refused to issue a statement. This sent the token price crashing 30% over a 2 day period during the first week of May. The entire community was in an uproar and hundreds of people were pestering them in their TG to issue a statement, but they refused over and over again. Then they just started banning anyone who asked questions and scrubbed their TG of all evidence of this drama as it unfolded. This went on for about a month and literally every whale dumped and the token crashed eventually dropping about 95% where it sits today.
The former CEO had been missing from all company events and communications for months prior to the whistleblower. The team refused to explain what happened and claimed they were under a legal hush order and couldn’t talk about it. When asked to produce a redacted legal document proving this to be true the team refused. They claimed they would make an official statement in a few months. Eventually they came out and said Brendan Playford the founder and CEO of the company (and only team member with crypto experience) was having creative differences with the COO Ben Jorgensen (a nobody) and decided to give up hundreds of millions of tokens (worth millions at the time) and walked away from the project without notice and without compensation. This was an obvious lie coming from the team.
At this point they had a few public resignations of staff including Michael Salmon who distanced himself from the company publicly via his Linkedin profile.
Ben Jorgensen assumed the role as CEO and said the company was going “heads down focusing on the tech” and would not be engaging with the community any longer. Disgruntled pre-sale investors and remaining bagholders began to wonder if the company was out of capital from the day trading. Could it be possible they lost $15-20M in a trading scandal? When pressed to either make a statement refuting the day trading FUD or reveal their financial position the team refused both.
To this day the team continues to refuse to make an official statement about the day trading allegations or their financial position. They are currently attempting to dismiss these allegations as old debunked FUD but it has never been debunked and any new investor should be aware it is very likely Constellation Labs (DAG) does not have the funds to push their grand vision and will likely be raising capital again at a much lower valuation drastically reducing the value of current bagholders. To this day they continue to ban any person in their TG who requests they make a statement refuting the DAG Whisleblower controversy. Ladies and Gentlemen this FUD is real, it has deep implications, and should be known by all potential investors in DAG.
80% of the staff has been fired and NOT replaced. Here is a partial list. For a company to fire all these positions before mainnet proves its a PnD scam or the tech is just vaporware. This is not how you ramp up for success:
CEO Brendan Playford: disappeared, accused of losing millions of investor money day trading during crypto winter. The team refuses to discuss claiming legal hush order. Refuses to show proof of hush order. CCO Altif Brown: No longer employed, he was a cofounder as well. The team ignores any question about his sudden departure. No replacement. VP of Operations Emily Arth: Fired, no replacement. Head of Marketing Zac Russell: fired no replacement. Engineer Preston Parris: Fired no replacement. Statistical Modeling Ratul Saha: fired no replacement. VP of Product Brian Hickey: fired no replacement. VP of engineering Rule Goehausen: fired no replacement. VP of Product Engineering Michael Salmon: quit publicly stating serious problems and distancing himself from the team, no replacement. There are many others these are just the ones I could verify.
The team fired their entire marketing team and didn’t rehire anyone to replace them, instead passing the tasks on to their bag holding community to save money.
They are hyping submissions of RFPs to government agencies for financial grants to fund their business. If they had capital to sustain themselves they would just be building product and taking it to market (executing their business model) rather than searching for government grants.
They laid off the majority of staff including their development team and started outsourcing to Poland
They were so scared to answer the day trading CEO FUD that they encouraged their community to attack those revealing this information. They wrongly doxxed a child and his father in an attempt to stop the FUD. They also made claims it was only this kid spreading FUD which ended up being a total lie.
They encourage their admins to ban anyone who brings up the FUD in their TG and scrub any mention of it immediately after.
They hyped paid partnerships such as MOBI and Hyperledger. They hyped a partnership with IBM and Google just because they shared a panel with them.
They currently hype “partnerships and close relations with NASA and the US Air Force” while knowing they are nothing more than RFP submissions anyone could produce.
They do not pay for marketing of any kind and do not pay a market maker.
They do not pay for community management.
They work in a shared space and don’t even have their own office after 2+ years and $30M+ investment.
They do not have a single employee with crypto experience.
They change the whitepaper constantly and miss every deadline they set for themselves.
They pay shills to bombard biz with stupid memes about 10000X EOY and fake partnerships.
There is no liquidity for this token in the market. Hotbit is 100% wash trading and Kucoin is almost nothing.
After 2+ years they have yet to get on a decent exchange.
They are in Silicon Valley, the heart of tech investment. Not a single VC or investor believes in their technology or invests in their token.
They went to Nigeria searching for investment capital.
They got caught promoting the NASA "Partnership" even though it was just an RFP submission. They were aware they lost the RFP and kept pushing the "opportunity" in their TG until one of their own community members called them out for lying about it and proved it was awarded to another company.
This is the worst team in crypto, they lie, spread misinformation, and dump their bags on any idiot dumb enough to buy their shitcoin. It is 100% clear they are out of funds and willing to lie to stay afloat.
If you invest in DAG you will lose every penny you put in. That is a fact. Even the most basic due diligence proves DAG is a total failure and near insolvency.
See you above 100 sats next week pajeet.
MOST IMPORTANT. THEY ARE IN THE HEART OF SILICON VALLEY AND NOT A SINGLE TECH INVESTOR BELIEVES IN THEIR TECHNOLOGY OR INVESTS. THIS IS THE LARGEST TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENT MARKET IN THE WORLD AND THEY HAVE ZERO INVESTORS. ITS VAPORWARE AND A PnD SCAM. THEY DONT EVEN HAVE THE RIGHT EMPLOYEES TO BUILD WHAT THEY CLAIM AND ALL SIGNS POINT TO IMPENDING BANKRUPTCY
This is pure SPECULATION on your part pajeet. Wait until next week.
Oh you mean when the PnD is over and you dumped your bags on a bunch of innocent people? EVERYTHING ABOVE IS A FACT
Ben read your last thread and laughed. Also replied to the FUD about former employees.
I used to dislike you but now it's just funny. Can't hear you over the sound of these gainz
Exactly...he clearly has a mental disabillity of some sorts so it is hard to hate him. Especially when thinking about all the huge gaibs he is about to miss out on. Poor guy.
>GAMBLER
>PIZZA BOY
THIS SCAM PROJECT IS DEAD
lol Tom Cruise aged so.well compared to mrs mgillis.
Oh really, go look at the Linkedin Profiles of all the people who used to work there. ALL FIRED ALL MOVED ON TO NEW COMPANIES. FACT
Why you guys lying to everyone, just need to dump your bags real quick?
LOL dag got rekt ITT. Only an idiot would buy it this PnD scamcoin.
THIS SCAM IS BEING RUN BY A LITERAL PIZZA BOY.
PALMS ARE SWEATY
MOMS SPAGHETTI
Your passion is beautiful my friend. See you on the sidelines at 100 sats after selling the bottom whilst we are enjoying the gains
>ignores 80% of team disbanded a month before mainnet including VP of engineering, VP of Product, VP of marketing.
>Known PnD team takes over marketing
Definitely not exit scamming and going bankrupt LOL. You fucking moron you deserve to lose every dollar you put into this scam
Don't forget cofounder Altif Brown no longer working and took an advisory role.
How can they claim they have some incredible new tech and plenty of cash when they just fired all their developers and marketing team a month before mainnet. I mean they even got caught red handed faking the NASA proposal and had to apologize
I can literally imagine you mashing your keyboard in the basement, whilst suckling on your mamas nip
Fudding can’t slow this thing down, set your buy orders before it’s too late
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Lol - faking the NASA proposal? You high bro
Also please show me where their CEO refutes any of these stated facts. Go ahead show me a screenshot.
>Protip you cant, because he would be liable for investor fraud. I mean come on dude these people already got new jobs and changed their linkedin profiles. You can sit here and lie about partnerships and lie that everything is fine but you cant claim people work there when they publicly state they do not. The lies and misinformation only go so far.
Seriously this is the worst community in crypto, you can find 20 verifiable lies in their TG every day.
They sent a proposal, big fucking deal. When asked if they won the award they said they were still waiting and would make an official announcement next month. One of the community members looked up the RFP and showed everyone they fucking lost it.
Embarrassing bro, fucking scam artist motherfuckers running this company. Lying to their community or forgetting to mention things like ummmmm firing the whole fucking team a month from mainnet
Are you just jealous because DAG got a better score than FTM?
Seriously though, save yourself the time/energy when you think about fudding the project.
Most people who are just hearing about DAG are doing so through legitimate reviews done recently people who have seen/reviewed hundreds of other crypto projects. Or maybe you’re saying their DD isn’t robust enough
I miss DAGboi
Checked and fuck this shitcoin. Better than Hashgraph's money grab, but for different reasons
>Whole team disbands a month before mainnet including cofounders.
>Clearly run out of money and about to go under
>bullish
You have to be completely devoid of brain cells. This might be the most obvious exit scam PnD scheme in all of crypto. Its so fun watching all these bagholders try to dump their shitcoin on unsuspecting idiots.
men don't hit the wall
I reckon you got your dates all crossed up. Ryle is the only one to have gone recently. Altif is still advising, but let’s be honest, wasn’t adding much value in the day to day. All the others have been gone for ages, literally 6-12 months.
Why would any business keep on FTE that aren’t required? All of those hires were massively premature if you ask me, so Ben has correctly trimmed the team to the essentials so they can focus on what’s important which is exactly what I’d expect any competent CEO to do....which by the way, Brendan wasn’t (hence he got cut loose)
You aren’t very bright are you
DAGnabit, the future looks bright.
$1 EOY
$37 peak during bull run
Lol - I’m bullish, but not that bullish!!
Most toxic community in crypto award goes to Dag
First off lets not call that fucking loser CEO "competent". Hes an idiot and everyone following DAG knows it.
Second if you are telling me firing all of your key operational personnel to run a company (COO, CCO, VP of engineering, VP of Product, VP of Marketing, VP of Product Engineering, all your developers, and all your community managers, etc) a smart move you are a fucking idiot of epic proportions. They raised $33M and supposedly planning to role out some amazing huge game changing tech. None of these people were replaced.
You would have to be the dumbest investor in crypto to think this is anything but the signs of a bankrupted company making one last effort with a PnD crew to dump their bags. Im sure you are one of those heavy bag holders hoping to dump on noobs, so you can go fuck yourself.
And you have to be a team member because none of those firings were announced, not a single one. Since the entire company has been fired, FUCK YOU BEN JORGENSEN you incompetent fuck. I hope your restaurant is doing well and Im sure you didnt siphon investor funds to pay for it. Fucking scam, i hope you end up in jail.
Why are you bullish? What is there to be bullish about i just dont fucking get it? Every potential partnership announcement was overhyped nonsense that ended up being nothing. They have a couple "paid" partnerships they fund out of your money that have accomplished nothing in 18 months. They have no tech and fired all their engineers. They fired every staff member in every important role in the company. What exactly are you bullish about, please explain? Because the team puts out smart sounding white papers and hypes announcements of RFP submissions they have no chance of winning? Do you think the US airforce is going to give a multimillion grant to a company with 3 employees and a development team in Poland? You realize they legally cant even award them a contract with their dev work being done in Poland?
How stupid is the average DAG investor, its mind numbing to watch this train wreck.
>Most toxic community in crypto award goes to Dag
Definitely the most butthurt haters/fudders. It's not really the community, just the trolls.
Or maybe the presale investors got scammed hard. The team is incompetent and failed spectacularly over the last 18 months. The community is absolute garbage without any constructive discussion. They banned most of their presale investors from their own TG for asking questions about the former CEO day trading disaster where he lost most of their investor funds.
Yeah just some butthurt assholes, the team was great and the community of paid shills screaming for the moon and banning anyone who isnt drinking the Koolaid is totally healthy.
Its going to be fun watching you all lose your money.....well you already lost 95% of it, the last 5% will be the best. This company is out of money and you blind fools are losing every dollar you put in. This is the most obvious PnD exit in all of crypto, its not even a contest.
Presale investor here. Let's just say I hated the first CEO that gambled away all our money. The new CEO is even worse he has no idea what he's doing. Sold awhile ago no regrets. They probably all out of money from the looks of it
Wow - you wanna watch that blood pressure.
You’re incessant fud and broken record trolling is a significant buy signal!
Example: I think Icon is a massive scam, they hired 50 devs and had layers and layers of execs and heads of, last I saw, they had produced nothing. But, rather than come on here and smash my keyboard, I do other things more productive
Rather than vehemently fudding, why don’t you put all that aggression into something more positive, like power wanking off your step dad or something.
Man, this fudder is obsessed. Never seen such passionate fudding. He should write a book.
I am gonna load up on $dag. Most bullish fud i have evah seen!
Hes an idiot. Dags partnership with the Us air force will be one of the most significant in the ENTIRE space of crypto. It legitimizes not just dag but crypto itself. I truly pity trolls who are going to be missing whats coming while they get a slow bleed in Hbat. gl
there aren't any because nobody is holding this shit.
buy UND, brainlet.
For anyone reading this garbarge, 99% of this FUD has been fabricated by a 19 year old kid called Raphael.
Raphael invested his collage fund into $dag at the start of the bear market in 2018. $dag had a lot of issues at the start and a lot of investors that like poor Raphael, where hoping to flip their investment for a quick buck, did not get what they hoped for. ICO hype died and people where exiting market asap.
Raphael exited the market at the absolute bottom and is now so enraged, that he is obsessed to see the project dump or fail.
What this idiot still cant grasp is that he invested into a highly speculative and volatile market with mainly unproven tech. That he invested into a startup that like like any business has issues and needs to find its focus and path. Building a company, especially in a new sector is a journey.
He should take responsibility for his own bad decisions and move on, not blame others. But he is an entitled and selfish little prick that never has had to take responsibility for anything because his daddy, that is always at work or cheating on his mom has never has had time to teach him about life.
My advice is to look in the mirror and man up. No-one is reading this fantasy conspiracy BS that you post here.
False, most of the FUD I've seen is true. And many of the complainers and fudders both here and telegram are pissed off presale or bag holders. It's very legitimate FUD.
Claiming USAF partnership is coming is just unrealistic. There is less than 1% chance.
What this idiot still cant grasp is that he invested into a highly speculative and volatile market with mainly unproven tech. That he invested into a startup that like like any business has issues and needs to find its focus and path. Building a company, especially in a new sector is a journey.
Pissed off investors where most likely hoping to flip their bags. Blame yourself idiot.
Christ, you are such a retard, look at how many projects crash after launch these days.
Ocean protocol dumped about 90% recently after IEO launch. Also a great project.
Fantom dumped 95% after ICO.
Almost all projects crashed in the bear.
Most peoples portfolios went down by 60 - 80%
Get some perspective you idiot trolls. Blame yourself for being a noob bag flipper and entering the market at the wrong time.
The projects that launched at the peak of bear market are basically the best investment opportunities in the market. The top 100 is filled with dead projects from 2017 that have not evolved in the past year. New fresh projects with better tech and that are undervalued are gonna be the big movers in the next bull-run.
Bag-holders and people that are bitter because they capitulated are the MOST BULLISH buy sign for any smart investor.
Anyone buying now is getting a 90% discount and even if this project gets up up to a moderate MC will make amazing gainz.
This is the difference between cucks that complain and fud, and smart, calm chads that use your pages of fud to wipe their asses with and buy your bags at the bottom.
Look in the mirror you loser, realise you could have 10 x your bag and made a killing.
You are a WEAK and spineless cuck. And we just laugh at how easily you are getting triggered.
Unanswered FUD everywhere. Provable FUD everywhere. Team has no transparency and looks to be out of funding. Firing people left and right, no new hires for key position. Not a single marketing person on the team a month before MaiNet
< Bullish
Dumbest Investors In Crypto. Only the newest of noobs buys DAG.
You are a buy signal my fren
Why DAG? There are thousands of cheaper shitcoins on the market.
just bought hoping for a 2x
Community Managers Fired
VP of Marketing Fired
Entire marketing team fired
VP of engineering fired
Cofounder and CCO fired
Entire dev team fired
VP of Product fired
VP of Product Engineering Fired
None of them replaced. One month till mainnet. Something tells me they are bankrupt and about to announce it publicly. Whatever it is it's going to be devastating.
Try asking their community what happened. They don't know, they don't want to know, it's never been addressed. But they will ban you and scrub your question from their TG if you ask. That is the state of DAG at the moment.
Does DAG stand for Dead And Gone?
All this on top of their FOUNDER and CEO going missing for 3 months without a trace. When asked the current CEO said they were under legal hush orders and couldn't talk about it. Nobody ever addressed this even after a year. The community of shills don't want to know. Luckily one of the team members posted what happened, he wasted millions day trading with investor funds. And now they don't even have enough money to hire one single developer in house. They are done, it's over
why do you put so much energy into this, you seem scared that it will moon and you will be wrong.
what is your agenda, why are you so obssesed
feel sorry for you pajeet
DAG has been trying to offload their bag of scamcoin here for a year. The lies and misinformation are criminal. GTFO of biz your scam doesn't belong here and will never be accepted by the community.
This is not one person, this is every person who has been fucked by the incompetent team and the toxic community. 24/7/365 your project will eat shit until you go away. Stop trying to scam people you scumbag
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Come on man, its time to move on. I know you feel hard done by cos your daddy didn't take the time to be a real father. But you have to let this anger go. You rage towards this project is because you wanted to prove yourself in his eyes as a savy investor. But you sold the bottom like a cuck. I bet he was mad at you, but maybe you never told him and are telling him your investments are doing fine? I want to help you bro. You can share your feels here.
DAG FUDDERS
> "Walto" - delusional as fuck and spammed daytrading BS, english is as good as of a pajeet's. You'd immediately spot him because he'll accuse you of being a DAG team member if you don't agree with him.
> "Raphael" - a 19 year old kid who lucked out in the 2017 bullrun, lost everything and dedicated his life to FUD'ing the project out of revenge.
> "James" Mathews / Dean / Alexander - lost a lot of money when he bought $DAG at the top and appears to be a paid shill of Fantom. This dude likes to scare people with his SEC narrative. Twitter: twitter.com
Im here. Lost my ass and not happy with the team or community. I want answers and I want them held to account
LOL they took $33M from investors at presale then lost it all day trading. They lie and spread misinformation nonstop without shamem And you blame 3 kids for the 24/7/365 hate of this project. You are fucking delusional
OK, LET"S MAKE A DEAL!!!
If you really believe that Constellation is a scam, there is no way on earth that they can get a deal done with Dept of Defence / USAF.
To get a grant or contract they would need to be heavily vetted, before even being considered for such a partnership.
You already claimed above that it is 1% chance that they would get the deal and that it is unrealistic:
"Claiming USAF partnership is coming is just unrealistic. There is less than 1% chance."
So, lets settle this once and for all.
IF CONSTELLATION 'LOCK DOWN THE USAF DEAL WITHIN THE NEXT 2 WEEKS' THE FUDDERS / CONCERN TROLLS WILL APOLOGISE TO THE TEAM AND NEVER EVER FUD THE PROJECT AGAIN. IF THEY DO THEY WILL BE BRANDED AS KEKS AND COWARDS AND PAJEETS AND AS THE LOWEST SCUM ON EARTH.
IF CONSTELLATION 'DO NOT LOCK DOWN THE USAF DEAL WITHIN THE NEXT 2 WEEKS' THE CONSTELLATION SHILLS, WILL DECLARE CONSTELLATION A SCAM AND DECLARE THAT THE FUDDERS / CONCERN TROLLS WHERE RIGHT ALL ALONG.
THE DEAL IS YES OR NO: IF YOU SAY NO YOU ARE A COWARD AND A KEK AND HAVE NO SKIN IN THE GAME AND NO HONOR / IF YOU DO NOT RESPOND YOU ARE A COWARD AND A KEK.
SIMPLE DEAL ——> REPLY WITH IP THAT YOU HAVE BEEN POSTING FROM TODAY
YES = AGREE
NO = YOU ARE A COWARD
KEK = KEK
FUCK THIS AUTO TYPE
KEK = C U C K
I will speak for myself and accept this deal. Im sure everyone would. They will not have a paid engagement with the USAF.
I don't believe the DAG shills will stop pushing this scam though. The fucking founder and CEO walked away under a legal hush order in the middle of allegations he gambled away all their funds and the shills made excuses for that insane shit. Losing yet another "RFP" isn't going to stop you delusional idiots from trying to dump your bags.
On the other hand if the USAF RFP is rejected there is no backup plan and DAG collapses anyways so...fine. have fun eating your words, everyone screen cap this.
Count me in, there is no chance DAG will get paid a dime by the USAF. Dag fags about to eat a dick.
OK, still awaiting an answer from the main fud protagonists. If DAG get this deal they will have no goal in there petty little lives anymore.
I am even willing to up the stakes. But to call out these cowards and see if they are willing to put all of their extensively well fabricated FUD on the line and be labeled as losers will be enough for me.
Still no answer, they have no balls just as I thought.
sorry fren, you are the main fudder. I respect your decision.
There is no main fudder, just some provide more information than others. For your own sake, go ask the team to refute anything ive said or anyone else and you will see its all true.
CEO Day trading fiasco
Fired most of the team including CEO and CCO
Fired VP of Engineering
Fired VP of Product
Fired VP of Marketing
Fired all engineers
Fired all community managers
Outsourced all Dev work to Poland
They are out of money, their "RFP"s are worthless and just buying them time so they can dump their bags on the little pumps and little volume. Its totally obvious if you look into it. Watch how defensive they get when you bring up all the firings and why they didnt replace any of those people. Its MONEY ISSUES FOOL. Only an idiot would believe they didnt run out of funds, its obvious in every facet of their business. This is not how a company operates with $33M. They lost almost everything.
Somebody please screen cap this. It is true tho the company is going under regardless so they have nothing to lose.
OK user(s),
Screencap this, as will I.
A deal with with USAF would validate Constellations position as a legit start-up, and that inexperienced investors should take heed and learn to stand by their investments and let the team figure out how best bring the company forward.
— CEO Day trading fiasco
Brandon is old news and gone, company has moved on and no-one even knows if this story is true. Most likely fabricated. Project is better for it.
— Fired most of the team including CEO and CCO
Most hires where dead weight, hired by former CEO. He was an inexperienced fool and was trying to play tech-company and was burning resources on people that did not really add much value. New CEO has cleared out dead weight. Another bold move. Altif is still involved in day to day but in a more experimental role, an advisory capacity. He has also acknowledged the progress since the re-org.
— Fired VP of Engineering
Ryle finished his build, and has moved to another job. He is still available as an open source contributor. Why keep him on board when his job is done?
— Fired VP of Product
Dead wood. Core leadership team define the product. It is basically just a job title.
— Fired VP of Marketing
Dead wood, core team is being advised and supported by a number of entities that know the crypto space inside-out. Focus is on organic marketing and focussed engagements that have projects best interests at heart.
— Fired all engineers
Much of the engineering has been completed, main net is almost ready to roll out. The 3 Polish PHD devs are auditing and finalising the code together with Wyatt before main net roles out. The entire tech is Wyatts masterpiece, he is the conductor. A frigging genius.
— Fired all community managers
Focus is to build the community with community members and people that support the project, not just wage slaves that are just filling a position. Team are also daily in the community channels and are one of the most community engaged teams in the entire space.
— Outsourced all Dev work to Poland
Already answered. Devs in San Francisco are overvalued. Most likely they got great talent at a good price. These devs have PHD’’s. So their origin is a non issue.
Keep speculating about money, I think has done a great job slimming down the team. They are lean and mean and agile. When they get the USAF contract they can easily hire new people. Until then it is bad business to keep wage-slaves on board burning resources just to keep a bunch of anons on Jow Forums happy.
>PIZZA BOY CEO
DAG is a scam.
Ask a simple question in the DAG telegram.
Get banned 4 mins later. What is DAG trying to hide?
After your ban admin said "Fud is not tolerated in this channel."
I am guessing it's because you are an obvious fudder with a clear agenda. Try to be more subtle next time retard.
+1 sirs
Post caps of "refutation"
So asking a question is fud? I see some answered the question but I guess the admins are giant bagholders and just ban anyone.
Nice assumption there you faggot. Do you get paid to suck DAG dick or do you do it for free?
Ben Jorgenson's personal DAG stack is worth 230k. I know this because he was the first person to transfer DAG to the parjar tip jar. He transferred 10% of his DAG stack. Unannounced. Just to tip people in the telegram. WHAT A FUCKING SCAM RIGHT
They have done basicly everything in their power to make exit scam possible.
>super duper company partnership (NASA case) and now USAF case check
>"burn every token from owners as a good will and to pump the price up, check
>ban every fudder and legit question asker on the channel, to make their companys image look good for newere people arrived, check
>LEAVE EVERY LEGIT QUESTION ANSWERED and contemplate them as fud
red flags over red flags. its over boys, im sorry for your losses.