>Italy has entered permanent recession >€2.4 trillion debt is completely unsustainable >Eurozone austerity rules make it impossible for Italy to invest in growth >Italy has been in budget surplus for 25 years and still hasn't been able to reduce its debt >Italy cannot competitively devalue its currency as the Euro is regulated by the ECB >An Italian default is now guaranteed and will cripple the Eurozone and send shockwaves throughout the global economy >Unlike Greece, Italy is far too major a player for external markets to effectively ring-fence themselves from Italian debt
How are you planning on protecting against this? The collapse of the world's 8th largest economy and subsequent crippling of the world's largest trading bloc will hit Wall Street hard and cause the next global recession.
How will your investment strategy change to cope with this?
i'll buy a cheap house with land there. It's already dirt cheap.
Jackson Sanchez
Economics are one thing, the sheer number of niggers i saw when i visited is another.
Robert Clark
>Eurozone austerity rules make it impossible for Italy to invest in growth Growth is a meme. Austerity is just return to the true mean.
Gabriel Reyes
When will this send the shockwaves you mention? How do you helieve other euro countries will react?
How will I react? It depends.
Logan Sanchez
Naples is nice. Remember to stock up on counterfeit Maradona merchandise and the mafia will leave you alone
Jason Gonzalez
Cheap/free labour is beneficial to the economy, just like how large money making corporates not paying as much tax is. Even if they're on gibs that's 1) only paid by poortards and 2) circulates by the niggs spending everything on drink and gambling, so any what little money is put into them is actually spent back into the society.
I mean yes the culture and people there will take a hit, but that's not biz.
Henry Parker
This. I hope I will make it before Italy shits the bed, I always wanted to live in italy and get a qt italian gf.
t. french
Samuel Morales
Well given the collapse of the Italian government last week and Salvini's contrarianism that serves no-one but himself I wouldn't imagine it will be too long. The consequences will be a Eurozone-wide sovereign debt crisis. Italy will not be able to repay foreign banks and the Eurozone will enter a doom loop
kek i already have an house there but it's at a shitty location i inherited it. it will fall apart in a few years. I'll sell it as soon my uncles dies. won't be worth shit but i'll use that money for a new one.
Hunter Bailey
>€2.4 trillion debt is completely unsustainable amerilards have 10 times that debt plus theyre running a trillion dollar deficit every year. that is the richest country in the world what a fucking shitshow.
Italy has the 4th largest sovereign debt in the world behind the USA, China and Japan but unlike those countries Italy has no way of extricating itself.
Most countries can boost economic growth to get out of debt. But for Italy, that isn't possible. In order to stop its debt ratio from rising over the next five years, Italy’s economy would have to expand by 1.3% per year. Italy has achieved an average growth of just 0.4% since 1999
Second, the country could implement some fiscal austerity. However Italian governments have run primary budget surpluses in 23 of the past 25 years without bringing the debt ratio down.
The third way to get out of a debt crisis is to cause inflation so deflating the real value of the obligations. Unfortunately for Italy, the country has no control over inflation because it is part of the eurozone. That means all decisions about monetary policy get taken by the ECB
The ECB won't allow inflation across the eurozone simply to enable Italy to rectify its debt problems.
How does Italy get out of this mess?
There is really only one option. It can default on its debt and send shock waves through financial markets.
i know that italy is going through a lot of crisis, but i still believe italy can come out of it, they should have accepted coins as a currency mode this would have been solved by now,
Carter Martin
This "debt" is literally just a social construct and literally wont matter. The value of your currency is entirely based on your own productivity and resource scarcity.
Lincoln Robinson
Is this a good time to get a qt Italian waifu?
Nathan Wood
This is why governments should be required to have a balanced budget and not allow deficit spending.
Camden Myers
Have you seen a goverment labour program, the way they word it for these dumb fucks is that if they don't work lifting a box up and down for 6 hours a day they will lose their gibs.
And even if they don't and the vast majority does nothing that's still goverment money circulating trough the country and not rotting in someones smart investment fund.
Aaron Rogers
>implying the US will ever work itself out of its debt >implying the entire financial system isnt set up so that we are all wage slaves and international bankers get rich on interest payments
Jaxson Nguyen
All this debt is unsustainable. People keep predicting collapse and plenty of nervousness out their. But I don't understand how I can keep waking up everday and people just carry on in their bubbles. It's fucking wierd.
>forcing greek kids to die on the street >return to the true mean you can go to fuck off this shit was forced how the fuck you are on biz and supporting a system based on debt? eu economies are totally different one each other, imposing a currency with fixed value is causing an obvious disaster it's like forcing a group of 20 top 50 shitcoins to move together in price do you want a fucking URSS in europe? do you want financial jails? ARE YOU RETARDED KIDDO?
Grayson King
What matters is the % of GDP, Italy has 130% of its GDP, the US just 80%. That said what matters even more is who own the debt, for example Japan has a crazy amount of debt but most of it is owed to its own citizen and national companies so there is little exposure.
Asher Fisher
MAMA MIA SPAGETHERIA
Isaiah Phillips
PASTA LA VISTA BABY
John Young
Italy has no control over the value of its currency though. soon enough...
I don't know if this is bait. I sincerely hope it is.
Nathaniel Ramirez
>And even if they don't and the vast majority does nothing that's still goverment money circulating trough the country and not rotting in someones smart investment fund. >rotting in someones smart investment fund.
based retard
Easton Jones
PIZZA MAFIA SPAGHETI BERLUSCONI FERARRI
Samuel Wilson
>He thinks people invest in banks anymore >He doesn't understand that majority of investments are merely barely valuable housing or foreign investments And that's not even touching on the fact that I was using smart ironically. Obviously their investment is a fucking waste of money trying to win it all on a quick gamble that doesn't circulate money.
Jeremiah Jenkins
>How does Italy get out of this mess? out of EU ASAP cope, your north eu city are filled with niggers, italy is the only country trying to stop racial replacement, but this 20% of leftists cucked sjw are very noisy with the judicial system t. whiter than you
out of EU ASAP >Italy leaves EU >Italy is then obligated to repay the entirety of its debt immediately >Can't repay debt as it is 130% of GDP >Complete financial collapse >End of Italy
Enjoy your spaghetti cave
Justin Wilson
>Cheap/free labour is beneficial to the economy WHERE ARE ALL THESE MONGOLOIDS COMING FROM? HOW THE FUCK CHEAP LABOUR IS BENEFICIAL TO A COUNTRY THAT HAS 30% YOUTH UNEMPLOYMENT?
Cameron Martinez
Buy land in the Po Valley, user.
Cooper Anderson
>Can't repay debt as it is 130% of GDP Of course it can, it just needs to do a massive inflation, cause inflation with budget surplus works very well fixing the price of your currency doesn’t work at all Eu economies are totally different, they have different models, different needings, the way a country manage his financiers should be free JUST LIKE FUCKING US WHY THE HELL ARE YOU ON BIZ OTHERWISE
Lincoln Ross
Sardinia looks incredibly comfy
Jayden Morgan
I like Sicily more, but it’s too near Africa In few years Sicilian will be totally cucked
Aiden Flores
The next few years will be interesting for the West to say the least.
Leo Morales
>Italy has entered permanent recession Fake >Italy has been in budget surplus for 25 years and still hasn't been able to reduce its debt Fake and gay >An Italian default is now guaranteed and will cripple the Eurozone and send shockwaves throughout the global economy Fake
Joshua Nelson
i saw less niggers in sicily than i saw in napoli or bologna. Even Milano has more nigger than sicily, sicily is to poor for migrants.
Adrian Cruz
Sicily is the first place the boats reach from North Africa
Charles Ortiz
By not employing expensive, nagging youths who understands their rights? Because you see, slave labour where the worker makes 100 euro a month over the native worker who would demand 2 thousand euro a month is still beneficial for large business owners and government because that's still 100 euro circulated in society. Meanwhile those 2000 are harder to come up with for greater and greater yearly gain expectations. And a non-paying member of society isn't a problem outside of medical expenses (which is covered by such schemes such as needing to be on goverment gibs or addictive drug sales) because they will take no value, the only problem they could present is merely being unsightly as homeless.
Understand, the global buisness society has formalized and perfected this idea. Of course it's popular as fuck to take in a billion of knuckle dragging louts, they're basically human robots.
Oliver Miller
it reaches lampedusa yes. But they won't stay there for long they will get shipped to the north where the gibbs money is.
Noah Stewart
pay denbts nigger
Blake Murphy
If consumers are all unemployed and have no income then they cannot purchase the products and services of these large corporations. It doesn't matter how cheaply you can produce goods, it counts for nothing if no-one can afford them
You also forget that, outside of America, the entirety of the Western world (especially the EU) provides heavily socialised healthcare to its citizens.
Joshua Anderson
Greee shouldn't even be in the EU to begin with. Their govt faked their way in with hidden debt so they would meet the financial requirements. They did this to themselves.
Sebastian Parker
Buy more Mario games to help Italy.
Nathaniel Green
Again, 1: nogs and other foreigners are easily employed because they come from countries where a pittance is a fortune and the ones that don't work still circulate money and spend it. Gibs aren't wasted money. Great Value is not created from cosumption inside the country but rather selling to other countries or global businessmen.
2. Healthcare has alternative methods of creating wealth, tax, medicine addiction, populist support.
Henry Kelly
Fuck Yeah, holiday apartment in Tuscany
Asher White
tell me about france, would it be painful for them to not be completely inept with money?
Nolan Sanchez
>destroying middle class and Italian sweet life is smart
inherited house from grandparents t. italian > one less thing to worrry I'd like to say: pros - food is good - wheather is good almost everywhere - price are nice almost for everything - amazon service very - avoid too big cities, too many problems cons - vast majority people are the worst, even incels here ralling against black people or women are nicer by comparison. Watch your back
Landon Bailey
I never said it was smart, I said it's what top buisnessmen have found to be the most cost effective and therefor proffitable and what goverment statistists have found most gain from. To be smart it'd actually be willing to sacrifice or be able to do long term planning, a thing that does not go well with current business practices. Understand too that too the groups that this matters to italian nationality or italian spirit does not matter. Middle class are merely what you price fix for and italian sweet life can be bought with private resorts, these have been meticulously calculated and patterned down as acceptable changes. I'm not agreeing with it but the brutal efficiency off it is simply what is the goal of most EU/US global elites. Especially if travel is cheap or free and they can simply move to their other businesses in richer countries.
Hudson Lopez
Why don’t Italians just work harder?
Jack Price
They all keep emigrating
Charles Thompson
How young are you people? When I was a kid I swear Italy would collapse biweekly.
Jason Scott
>>€2.4 trillion debt is completely unsustainable I am certain most of it is not even real. Greece has been economically destroyed with fake debt by Germany, France, Britain. Called the greek population lazy. Yugoslavia, before, same fate. Ewen worse, as a typical consequence, war. Middle East. Even though there is a lot of fake news. Don't like the Islam and the radical extremist muslims, but, same story.
Noah Collins
>- vast majority people are the worst, even incels here ralling against black people or women are nicer by comparison. Watch your back Elaborate. Can't imagine an average Italian being worse than incels on 4chins
Ryder James
Jow Forums isnt even old enough to maike a brokerage account, thats why its all crypto
Isaiah Bell
i have been telling you fags for years now that italy going belly up and experiencing a cascading bank insolvency and a total collapse of it's financial system will be the trigger to the next btc moonshot.
Brody Flores
Naples is a dangerous shithole. Just take a train out somewhere in the circumvesuviana and stay at a nice place nearby
Nicholas Murphy
people aren't buying imaginary money when they can't afford food.
Noah Taylor
and the EU set itself up for disintegration by disregarding its own weaker parts. The US became a strong nation by bailing out weaker states after the war. The EU did this to themselves as well. Good riddance.
Justin Young
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHUAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA!!! GOOD LET IT ALL BURN LET IT ALL CATCH IN FLAME AND BURN! I CANT WAIT UNTIL MADNESS IS EVERYWHERE AND EVERYTHING IS DESTROYED! LET'S JUST END IT ALL
italy is the 4th biggest economy in eu which is the biggest economic powerhouse on the planet. so far financial crisis only struck small shitholes like greece cyprus and venezuela. and the price action reflected it every time. this time it's gonna be big.
Thomas Cook
>italy is the 4th biggest economy in eu That's because 1/2 their GDP is in Al Pacino and Joe Pesci
Dominic Harris
next crsis! eurozone is dead! db bank and its crimes will be dead, it's alread halfway there..... who knows, the system was never meant to work anyway
Jayden Richardson
no they actually have a serious industry. i know it's surprising because that's not what you think when you hear italy...
Colton Jones
They already work hard They work as hard as in north Europe for 1/4 of the salary, that’s why we are all emigrating (to be honest north europeans are a bit more lazy at work, i’m really comfy with that, everybody is chill, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing)
Oliver Bell
We are full of niggers and this user is an sjw, nothing to see here
Justin Torres
>Their govt faked their way in with hidden debt so they would meet the financial requirements Goldman Sachs helped them. Are we gonna blame them too?
Jeremiah Thompson
>I am certain most of it is not even real That is a fact. This is how the current economic system operates.
Brandon Fisher
You are not entitled to my labor, pay debnts. You shouldn't have lived a lifestyle you can't afford with 60% of the working population in government jobs
Jacob Ward
"You have a nice gf? then I will spread rumors and create fake accounts to see you fail, doesn't matter I won't gain anything" backstab with a smile "just like Chinese police now in HK, but while giggling" mentality slimy employers College professors belittle and humiliate students with a giggle, because it's fun sociopaths Difficult to have rational conversations (rational = calm without insulting), always trying to get under your skin or rip you off or manipulate. Very tiring psychopats a bit like American Psycho Shakespeare was correct with the treacherous Jago, only add Berlusconi's punch-me-in-the-face smug smile Big egos high school bully mentality fake people smug food elitists always ready to group pound onto the weak, for compensating their own insecurities bully pack mentality "I'm a paying costumer in this restaurant/hotel, therefore you are my subhuman servant and I'm always right" mentality
something like that. Obviously not all of us, but I don't trust many, even with very simple tasks or questions.
David Harris
>Goldman Sachs (((Draghi))) (((Monti))) probably more jews than jews
Anthony Campbell
>60% go read actual statistics faggot public sector employees are among the lowest in europe you people don’t know shit about real data
Connor Gray
I plan on assembling a harem of sultry Mediterranean beauties and keeping them constantly pregnant with my potato nigger seed.
Charles White
>nogs and other foreigners are easily employed wrong >and the ones that don't work still circulate money and spend it. what money, my taxes? >Gibs aren't wasted money. not for niggers cause it’s free money for me that I pay taxes it is money flushed down the toilette >Great Value is not created from cosumption inside the country but rather selling to other countries or global businessmen. Commercial balance should be in equilibrium you fucking mongoloid now because of Monti we are dependent on export, which is obviously a very bad thing when there are no buyers Internal demand is way more stable Fucking retarded Erasmus generation needs to be financially rekt before they start getting how real world works
good. lots of cheap italian whores for us swiss in perspective. they will come here swallowing our cum to afford some parmigiano for your pasta.
Caleb Price
>people are entitled for thinking that they don't want to be treated like slaves fuck off mental jew
Evan Barnes
America also has a colossal economy As a % of GDP Americas debt and defecit isn't that bad
Noah Jones
>trump reaction image >knows fuck all about how the economy works like pottery
Jacob Lee
Italy is rotting because of people like you Leftists SJW cucks which are both neoliberals for white people and socialists for niggers Constantly fighting entrepreneurs and calling them tax evaders Letting skilled engineer go abroad and importing sub-human monkeys “to pay pensions” while it’s clear this is never going to happen there is a special place for you in hell die bastard, you are the cancer of this country