China is still not serious about reaching a deal

Xi Jinping vows to continue sending Fentanyl to the us. Unless something has changed, I’m not predicting any cooperation from China.

Yes they have resumed talks, but China absolutely can not be trusted. I’m not predicting any real progress for a few months.

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hahahaha you are the faggots knowingly injecting fentanyl so get fucking fucked mate, this is natural selection in our modern society

For context, they are shipping 20 - 100 tons at a time to the US. They are using massive industrial labs. This was last week.

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Sage

first post best post

This is about the US/China trade war. Say what you want about American society and drug addiction.

This is a clear sign from Xi that he is not interested in whatever Trump is selling. I’m looking at the financial implications behind this. I’m trying to make money

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IImagine getting mad at your drug dealer for selling to you

Fucking americucks, nothing seems to be their fault

They ain't completely wrong. Can't have massive supply without massive demand

Hurr hurr hurr the rabble never revolt because of dystopic drug crises. Viva Libertaria!

China is following the British blueprint executed against them. Poisoning the masses poisons society.

Kek
The US did the same to iran.
Just with cheap afghan heroin instead of fent.

They are manufacturing tons of raw Fentanyl. These aren’t a couple dozen Chinese mafia members, it’s a super massive industrial lab. Probably employs 100’s of people. The Chinese government is manufacturing for the sole purpose of sending to the US.

Xi doesn’t want a trade deal

Make opium and morphine legal and regulated tax it and China gets btfo
It's the selfish medical industry getting everyone on oxy and then the crackdown that helped create this
Opiates aren't even that great and I'd never do a powder I didn't test or produce myself

If the demand for fentanyl goes to zero tomorrow in the US, will the labs stay open though? Last I've heard you still gotta buy that shit, its not like they're sending a free syringe to every address

How much fentanly would one need to end it?
asking just for research purposes

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Same with cocaine and amphetamines
Make them legal get tax regulate quality and distribute information
End the medical monopoly and prison industrial complex

>If the demand for fentanyl goes to zero tomorrow in the US, will the labs stay open though?
Yes of course.
Heroin is highly addictive and when its cut with fent its even more lucrative.
Supply can be stretched and word gets out when someone has a hot shot.

If Americans are gonna OD on fentanyl, it might as well be on American-made fentanyl

not much, i dunno, like 50-100 milligram?

It’s darkest before the dawn fren. Hang tight

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That's too high
I think fent is dosed in micrograms ug

>The intravenous dose causing 50% of experimental subjects to die (LD50) is "3 mg/kg in rats, 1 mg/kg in cats, 14 mg/kg in dogs, and 0.03 mg/kg in monkeys."[68] The LD50 in mice has been given as 6.9 mg/kg by intravenous administration, 17.5 mg/kg intraperitoneally, 27.8 mg/kg by oral administration.[69] The LD50 in humans is unknown,[70][71] but a lethal dose for the average person is estimated to be 2 mg.[57][72

from goypedia

Best case scenario: Trump "gives up", everything back to the way it was, fent rolling in, manufacturing rolling out
Realistic scenario: Trump doesn't back down, trade continues to deteriorate with China, nothing of value is lost
Worst case: using the fentanyl and currency manipulation, and US declares war on China and or gets involved in Hong Kong etc.

Should be interesting. Watch for Chinese students recalled from the US.

Oh he wants to kill himself lol I misread that

such bullshit. sometimes it just gets darker and darker

The Opium Wars was with the British. Why the fuck are they sending this shit to us?

I was stuck on that shit for about a year. Worked my way up to Carfentanyl. Undid a lifetime of bio-mechanically sound reward systems. It ain't worth it.

The Chinese and the Russians are absolutely waging a cold war again against America by poisoning the drug supply. All your best scientists, artists were all opiate addicts. There's a correlation. Same thing has happened to them vs. England 200 years ago.

Pretty sure I died 6 times and each time I woke up in another universe each time. I left a very tame, sane world where corruption was never flaunted in daylight like it is now. The president was different. Being in this universe with you faggots isn't so bad, I like it now better than I did.

How about just stop taking Fentanyl

Britain already got Trainspotting'd

>blaming china
Fucking hilarious china cannot control every fucking aspect of life. SAme shit applies to the US who smuggle garbage into china as well. Its up to China to ACTUALLY PROTECT ITS CITIZENS. ITS UP TO THE US TO PROTECT ITSELF. I fucking hate the ZOG US

>fentanyl aint worth it
wow thanks for your input,goy

Sun always rises

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Opium wars 2019!

Worst case scenario is Trump declares total economic war on China. If he orders all US companies out of China (via EO) it will absolutely destroy China’s economy. There will be no recovery without a violent regime change.

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no. sometimes people really do lose everything/die/etc.

This. Based Chinks

Yes. He. Does. He just wants a trade deal where the west bankrolls its own destruction. These things are not mutually exclusive and this is the first time China is being asked to choose to smarten the fuck up or withdraw and be openly antagonistic. The latter doesn't work with soft power.

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I'd start with something much smaller and work your way up like a responsible user with Kratom. You might find out why opiate addicts sweat it saved their life before it consumes them.

You can milk the golden years of opiates for decades if you do it right.

I do feel sorry for those that get addicted to drugs, but it's not my responsibility to fix their problem.

Checked and based

Meanwhile chinks blame Brits for flooding their country with opium

based chinks

This will most probably happen anyway with imports from China tanking since years. Would be funny if the US accelerates it and destabilizes China to the point of civil war in less than 5 years

Gas the kikes and the chinks they are working together

Digits say it all. It's time to embargo China.

I can only hope.

Kek

Please elaborate. You have me curious. Give me a long rant if you have time

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China has played a very deliberate game in the last 2 weeks. Nothing China does is random.

They put the tariffs on the USA on a Friday morning, knowing full well that the Federal Reserve was going to do a speech at Jackson Hole and likely pump the market. Everything had recovered by the end of Chairman Powell's speech.

Trump THEN gets on the Twitter and goes full BOOMER PRIME, sending markets into a tailspin.

Trump had to walk back these threats with "China called us twice" to make the market rally.

Now China is calling for the elimination of existing tariffs as a prerequisite for further talks.

Also FLEXING in Hong Kong by exchanging PRC troops within the garrison stationed there, probably with the hardest and most ideologically conformist troops they have.

The Chinese know Trump's weakspot: market valuation. If they don't get what they want, they are going to respond to America's provocations with pre-planned tit-for-tat tariffs, exclusions, etc etc.

China is going to be so much worse a threat than the U.S.S.R ever was

like 5mg
it doesnt actually "kill" you
your lungs just forget to breath while you daze off

Haha yeah China is so strong by blaming their own people when Britain was sending over opium

You dumb gook nigger that’s not how it works. They’re putting fentanyl in other drugs and people are accidentally overdosing. China is knowingly shipping boatloads into Mexico in order to weaponize it. China needs to get nuked back to the fucking Stone Age.

why cant you get it through your head that this is a tye of warfare. Hes flooding the market with super cheap drugs to fuck up the population

Finally, someone who isn’t a dumb fucking gook nigger.

yes you can.... this is not the free market this is state sponsored...

this isn't true. this is not a free market, this is state sponsored.... they have literally endless money to burn for the purpose of fucking the USA.

Beijing Would LOVE it if 50% of the US population was addicted to Fentanyl. They could literally control the globe in a matter of years. Anything to destroy the population and make us completely weak.

Sounds like payback for the opium wars lol

maybe this should be done again

i mean, if their government is saturating our markets with drugs...... and chinese have a weakness for drugs.............

Straight from the propaganda ministry. Chinas market is irrelevant, the myth of chinese consumer is just a myth. Nibody exports to china.
with two word; demographic shift.
Longer. Chinas main source of income is selling shit to western Boomers. The Boomer bulge is slowly dying while putting a giant financial pressure on western states and millenials and zoomers to pay for Boomer joes third hip. Less disposable income and a smaller consumer market in the west kills Chinas economy. Some believe they will start to export to Africa but lets be honest that is delusional, Nigger market was always shit and will not transform magically like some dying Boomer think.

Regarding civil war in China. The country is held together by bribes and regional war lords; a decline in Chinas main income stream endangers not only the bribes but also regional stability. The chinese army isn't strong, loyal and qualified enough to deal with multiple regional insurgencies. If Trump orders manufacturers back or prohibits chinese imports or ends development aid to china, this will only accelerate Chinas decline into chaos.

>there will be violent regime change
Yea in america

Incels think it's really based that Chinese smuggle heroin into the country because fuck junkies or whatever until a heroin addict robs them at their gas station job with a dirty needle or steals their precious metals collection

never trust a chink

they don't care because they have us beat. They print yuan faster than we print $ and they use it to buy foreign property, assets and politicians. They use the yuan to build infrastructure and the US keeps the dollar stronger than other currencies to protect our rich from $ fleeing to other countries. It keeps us top heavy and China is going for building a bigger middle class. They're almost ready to cut back on manufacturing for more service and tech start-ups.
No one on our news even understands this stuff or they ignore it
China's middle class is now larger in numbers than the US. We need to stop letting US companies give them our business but it's still too late for us to stop them that way, we can only slow their growth.
Nixon and every president since, including Trump have made huge deals with rich chinese representing their interests. This is why american workers are fucked so hard so fast. and NAFTA hurt us a lot too.

they don't care because they have us beat. They print yuan faster than we print $ and they use it to buy foreign property, assets and politicians. They use the yuan to build infrastructure and the US keeps the dollar stronger than other currencies to protect our rich from $ fleeing to other countries. It keeps us top heavy and China is going for building a bigger middle class. They're almost ready to cut back on manufacturing for more service and tech start-ups.
No one on our news even understands this stuff or they ignore it
China's middle class is now larger in numbers than the US. We need to stop letting US companies give them our business but it's still too late for us to stop them that way, we can only slow their growth.
Nixon and every president since, including Trump have made huge deals with rich chinese representing their interests. This is why american workers are fucked so hard so fast. and NAFTA hurt us a lot too.

progressives are to passive here. It might come if someone unites the right and left around the banks or politicians screwing over the middle class. You need the numbers progressives have in the US but you need the violence and aggression of the american right for revolution.
You could point out to the youth how the rich have saddled them with debt in a system designed to collapse when population growth stops. I think we're too into our computers to overthrow the gov, unless this all collapses.

>Catalina Island will become china
Cause the US is British! Via the legal system, BAR stands for British Accedited Regency. Attorneys are given titles of nobility (Esquire), against the originally ratified 13th amendment (not the slave one).

This is a black pill few will swallow!

From the perspective of a business owner who knows 1st hand how destructive and inept that Orange geezer is. Voted R my whole life and it'll be my first time voting a D just out of spite. Hate how this country has deteriorated in the 3 years since Trump took office.

Reeeeee how dare they poison our children's heroin

>Chinas middle class
lmfao you propaganda cum guzzling retard. Chinas middle class is the one that is about to be fucked the hardest. The only way china can survive is by devaluing its joke toilet paper more to stay somehow competitive to India and the ASEAN, the other export dependent sweat shops. What do you think happens with muah chinas middle class (which is more like the wests poors), yes, it loses everything. I wonder if you lived under a stone, because the only thing that happens with chinks that become slightly more wealthy is, that they do everything in their power to get their wealth out of china. And btw, HongKong should teach you one thing Chang, that it is that muah middle class which is prone the most to start insurgencies.

Enjoy the Asian worldwar

No we passed that phase you absolute brainlet. People are KNOWINGLY injecting Fentanyl. Look at this post for example

I don't think you understand realpolitik and you're basing your views on false assumptions.

China DOES have wealth. If it didn't have wealth, then the trade war would be pointless because America would still be a rich country.

The first step to win a war is to understand your adversaries weaknesses and strengths. If you only see weaknesses everywhere, then maybe you're not evaluating their position that well and you're overconfident about your own.

inb4 you call me a Chinese shill; My position is that the West collectively should stop trading with the Chinks and try to integrate Russia back into the Western trading system.

Shut the fuck up boomer

China is trying to kill us citizens through exporting fentanyl. Beijing should be razed.

China has some wealth, yes, in form of a bunch of rare earth. That was about it. Chinas market is not really interesting for exports. I know I know mongoloid Boomers strongly believed in the 80's that China will be the new place to sell overproduction to after the Africa plan failed so gloriously. But that dream was always just a pipe dream, China might have numbers (which are most probably fake as fuck) but wealth among the consumer class to buy Boomer cars, no, just no, especially not with an export dependent economy like Chinas and their need to devalue the Yuan even further to be able to compete for a declining consumer base in the west.

But with all that, I'm a Realist and what I watch out for is military power, and in that segment China is a joke on the level of certain African armies. It can barely defend its borders, it has not the capabilities to combat multiple local and regional insurgencies in a country as waste and divided as China; and lets assume the middle class narrative has any substance to it, well that would break Chinas neck and the most probable outcome is balkanization into capitalist rich coast regions and a piss poor sweat shop inner country.

Except it's not really poisoning junkies as much as it is making heroin more addictive, cheaper, and more available in a period where people are incredibly pessimistic and vulnerable to abusing drugs. You're right, its causing more overdoses and death among junkies but it's also creating more heroin addicts. The end result won't be all junkies dying of "poisoning" because inevitably they will start compensating by decreasing the dose (if they haven't already). Most of those fentanyl deaths early on were a result of the fact that people didn't know the shots they were taking were hotter than the usual dose they were getting years ago, not that they were given rat poison. If the Chinese were simply poisoning the drug supply with cyanide I probably wouldn't give a fuck but the reality is they're just increasing the amount of dope on the streets and making it cheaper with a better product, which is hilarious considering the Chinese usually do the opposite by making shittier products but I guess when it comes to killing people they suddenly have an eye for quality.

>But with all that, I'm a Realist and what I watch out for is military power, and in that segment China is a joke on the level of certain African armies. It can barely defend its borders, it has not the capabilities to combat multiple local and regional insurgencies in a country as waste and divided as China
I'm not disagreeing with this, I mean China does have rather admirable military power in terms of fighter jets and battle ships/air craft carriers, but they're probably just sufficient enough to defend themselves from a great outside attack, say, Taiwan, USA + some allies. The whole system is based on the idea that their authoritarian state does not have conflicts within, and the people are obedient sheeple. This has worked surprisingly well to date, but will it work forever? Surely if everyone becomes mid-class, they'll be happy with a seemingly dystopian system with social credit and what not. But if it fails, it'll be Psycho-pass all over again, and they'll be instantly "liberated" by USA, and then every country in the world will be a democracy

Yeah the idea of centralized planning economy being able to keep an inner peace through coercing the population, worked so fucking well for the Udssr, the GDR, Rome, Egypt, Babylonia... In my opinion China is utterly fucked, and it has been set in stone since the 50's.

And regarding the trade war narrative, like everything communicated through gap mass media, it is for the most part just a narrative. The "trade war" is presented as if it is about Chinese company being kept from exporting to the US, when in fact, it is more along the line of western companies who tried to profit from cheap chinese labor and bribery in china to reexport to the western market. China has not any leverage in that regard. Most of those reeeeing are US companies, and if the US decides to tax them to hell and back for exporting back to the US or closes the market for their products entirely, the Chinese central committee can do shit but watch how those companies have to close their factories, create waste amounts of unemployed "middle class" Chinese and end the dream of the empire of the middle.

>reeeeing
shut the fuck up you sound uneducated

rome lasted from 753 bc to 512

Apparently cocaine is starting to be laced with fentanyl in the past couple years

And? It started to break when Rome took to much power from the regions and started to go full centralized planning bullshit. Communist China did that from the start, it had put on its noose at birth

Every drug that you can cut can have fentanyl. I heard of mdma with fentanyl.

But the fda monitors all that to keep us safe!

Someone post the Tianmen square pasta at this faggot

Euthanizing our worst opiate addicts for us is an odd strategy. Unless you think China is trying to kill poor white conservatives (overwhelmingly the demographic for opiate abuse) to send a message to Trump?

>Not my fault I murdered that girl on camera, people wanted snuff films!

PAY BACK FOR THE OPIUM WAR BITCH

Did Xi literally vow keep sending it? Or did he just say he wouldn't lift a finger and it's US problem. The first one is admitting that sending the fentanyl is a state policy designed to damage the US, the later only admits to apathy and greed and a lack of morals. Still a huge difference in tone though.

good. let ameritards die off. If China wasn't making them, Mexico would, if Mexico wouldn't then Americans themselves would. If there is demand there will be supply

Any good books on these topics. I’m a brainlet when it comes to these topics.. all I know is I see bus loads of Chinese touristing the US when most of us are living paycheck to paycheck

Arr round eye rook the same to superior yerrow man.

Eat shit and die, Shareblue.

>send a message to Trump
More like remove the only sizable portion of the population that doesn't vote for open borders and decreased pressure against foreign enemy states like Iran and China.

>hot shot
Literally what they call murder by OD in prison.

Hot shot means an incorrect dose of heroin in a bag.

>Shits 5x more concentrated than normal

That’s what it means on the streets anyway

Soooooo. Is China going to strike a deal? Or continue being gay?

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based and drugpilled
The feds want opioids to stay illegal so that the black market lack of regulation keeps them dangerous and keeps the DEA paid.

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>mdma with fentanyl
This is why i only buy solid rocks of that shit, then recrystallize it at home. What scares me most is LSD being tainted