Guys, how come everything gets just fucking muddled and foggy about a job after 4 or 5 months in. I felt crystal clear while going into this job but now after 5 months in, everything just feels like blur and I feel like I'm becoming stupider.
Am I the only one who feels this way in an occupation? Did you guys figure out what it is or how to care it of it?
The reality is most people don't want you to really think. They just want you to execute a function, a narrow role. So you do that and any attempt at systemic change is stymied by higher ups.
So you stop really trying to change things and you just exist. It's pretty horrid, but it is what it is.
This. If you spend more than 2 years in the same place you doomed yourself into the abyss of dependency.
That's legit terrifying.
Yes, this feeling is common to me as well. I haven't been able to overcome it, but having other career goals pushes me through the feeling. Other career goals being - leaving the job for a better. It's like a cycle...
Well it's a choice you have to make anyways
After 2-3 years you can either go somewhere else for more money (the place your at won't pay you like you can command elsewhere) or you can sit in place and jockey for management, but sometimes it's just a matter of being in the right place at the right time.
You really don't use your full capabilities as a worker. To stay interested you need autonomy and the ability to profit off your successes. Really if you want the feeling of being "alive" you need to do your own business.
Trouble is that's a risk and if you've already put the time and money into a degree the reward for just riding the ride are pretty good.
It's the mind-rot which begins setting in after a few months of wage cage containment.
This happens to me very rapidly.
The only way I've found to extend the time-to-fog is to only accept jobs that don't have time expectations. If I'm free to wake up, work until I'm done, then be rewarded with the rest of the day free, I stay engaged a lot longer. Conversely, jobs where I do a task for a specific period of time psychologically destroy me inside the first couple days.
do you think staying at job for 1 year is enough experience to move to a different job without looking bad on your resume?
Yes. Zoomers bail on their shitty jobs after 4 months
It depends on how many times you've worked short periods and how competent you are. Generally speaking most people want workers who seem loyal, but the market is tight and competence is in short supply.
I would look into making an internal transition if possible. Then you can change roles and just list the later job title for the whole time span.
I used to be in a leadership role in a low tier department but I noticed that there was no way to move up (my superior was a 19 year company vet and my manager was also a go-nowhere type) so I transitioned into a more expert like role where I don't have anyone to manage, but I get paid more.
Yet I still do almost nothing ground breaking because that would require short term pain for our bottom line.
Just chase money. It's always going to be shit in some way, so you just need to make sure you're raking it do whatever you fucking do.
Thanks for the advice.
That shit only matters if you suck at interviewing
At least mention what your job is, you retard.
or if you're in a contractual obligation.
That really doesn't matter. Just know I'm in a science related salary position.
Unless you've been paid money in advance, there's nothing they can do if you just leave. I hope you're not one of those people who thinks that 2 week notices are legally enforceable.
Probably a freight broker or something
no, I but I do have to pay back all my training and follow a non compete agreement.
BUMP
I feel like im going to say something stupid, and I will lose this facade i've been parading for the company these past 5 months.
Wow, you really are a bizlet. That's a normal feeling and probably everyone in your office is bullshitting their way through the workday. You either need to step it up and find more ways to be valuable, or get a new job. 5 months is still young, so I say stick it out and trying to take on more responsibility.
Either way, never stop learning. Always be looking for your next gig, whether inside the company or out.
actually they (presumably the managers/higher ups) very much want you to think so that you can innovate and make the company/them money/look good. This is actually a large part of the reason as to why Toyota is so successful.
Its by no means selfless, however. (though managers/bosses are indeed people)
Dude just ride it out to 12 months. Start applying elsewhere now. I hated my job at first and got a job offer somewhere else within 6 months for more pay
the resume gets you the interview
Jobs are more addictive and soul crushing than any drug.
Well you're probably getting more and more dropped on your plate, you have to either keep up or define the limitations of your role with your management.
> No /biz experience.
At least my experience has been polar opposite. I stayed in the same posigion, taking on more and more, while threatening my employer with my departure over and over and every time they met or beat the offer I was leaving for to keep. Become necessary.
It's pretty normal. Go through the honeymoon phase of having nonstop drive and doing good at work for 3 months. It wears off, you ask yourself why you're doing the job you're doing, eventually you'll dislike the job more and more. Then you'll struggle to find happiness in your job and have to figure out how to go through that brick wall. You'll figure it out and be content for a solid year or so and perhaps find another job or continue to do what you're doing for a living.
As long as you have a previous job leading up to it that you stayed a while. I've left a job 2 months after being hired and found a job somewhere else. I was asked why I left so soon and I just told them I needed better opportunities or some shit.
You've made your life centered around your job.
this isn't a bad thing if you actually have interest in and enjoy what you do.
But I'm guessing you don't.
Try find a new hobby or something.
This looks like the cover for some obscure 90s album that's weird and awesome.
Bump for OP. Please tell me how to fix this, I feel the same and am admittedly suicidal. I want to leave work but others in my life like parents will not be happy with that. But I need to live my own life.
Business. The key is that work is legitimately the meaning to life. Work is not sitting in an office. Work is not slaving away for a human master. Work implies studying, spiritual growth, mental growth, and even physical. Have you ever tried being a hedonist? How does it end? You're bored. Lonely. Unsatisfied.
What is the cure? Work. People define it in many ways but they' don't understand what's beneath the supposedly ugly face of work. Underneath is growth. Fulfillment. Understanding.
To go back to what I was saying about business.Business is hard work defined by the attributes above. Take it as you will. Just know that when you're bored, you have no real goals. The way to remedy it is to start a side hustle. Don't quit yet. Build your business. Survive. Work. Pray.
Youre playing the wrong game, the people game is where its at
Keep a work dairy and reflect on your work every week. It will keep your mind sharper.
you are likely an introvert. social interaction depletes you and you have no time to recover. the damage accumulates over time.
here in finland if you get a job as a zoomer well you are better than 99% of other zoomers, there is an unemployment crisis here because the boomers are unwilling to leave workplaces and company owners are unwilling to hire zoomers because the market is overflowing with "experienced" boomers
My advice for all zoomies starting out:
>find high paying career that is automatable and can be done remotely
>use jobs as stepping stones to that career - your 20s will mostly be a death march of gaining experience for your career and knowledge tangential to your career
>each job is a learning experience for the technical, political, and stress challrnges you will face when things go right/wrong
>become invaluable everywhere you go, move once you stop growing towards your ideal, 20%+ salary bumps each move
>once your skillstack is maxed, either do consulting to make as much money as possible fixing the issues made by lifer cubedrones or find a comfy job that you can automate and monitor from home.
Anything else is for literal wagie retards that go in every week to a shit job and complain about it.
yes it looks bad. dont listen to the college kids on here
i have been wage slaving for 14 years
>14
Is this probably the best approach to a development role? I feel like forced interaction between my team makes me keep on my toes and not fall into some doolally headspace.
I know it's not for every business model, but most can be adapted.
>tfw fell for the programming meme and all I do is copy paste shit and change some stuff and hope everything works
Is there any hope for me of finding a comfy job? I'm 25 and I only have a tech degree (Fuck the college meme) but this shit is too fucking stressful with it's deadlines and overall retardation of the upper management not to mention nobody thinks I'm anywhere near the level I need to work remotely and commuting takes almost 2 hours
>NEET
>start going to the gym every day
>feel utterly destroyed all the time
This board doesn't deserve you, based boomer. Your comments put my shit in perspective. Thanks
>tfw no work dairy cow
lel. I meant a work journal or a work log.
I just had a talk with a chick working in my team (we both joined the company 5 months ago). She entered in a higher position (and allegedly a higher paygrade) than I did and I've just confirmed (what I suspected and knew for months now) straight from her mouth that she doesn't know shit. Hell, the junior people in my team know and deliver much more than her...
One of the things she does is that she's always very quiet during meetings and stuff (exactly for the reason of not denouncing herself as being incompetent).
Not sure where I'm going with this, but I guess the point is that if you have a pussy, people and companies are a lot more forgiving.
Good stuff.
In general, agile fucking sucks and gets co-opted as an assemby line like process. Currently in my job our ScrumTM process is semi-tolerable because we don't have compulsory demonstrations each sprint.
It's a huge pain in the ass but add your resume on job sites and make it clear you are open to recruiters. Be ready for waves of Pajeets and Poojas to call and email you with shitty jobs. However eventually an actual good offer will come your way. Continue the interview process until it's a done deal and leave. Say that your job wasn't as advertised, wasn't aligned with your career path, whatever, but also you had a great relationship and they will be really sad to see you go.
A food technology technician specialising in the periodic 180 degree rotation of bovine protein discs?