Rant Thread

For the past few months I've been selling shit on Ebay to supplement my income. I keep a spreadsheet that tracks all my profits/expenses/losses.

Gross Sales: $4,152.02.

Inventory Cost: $734.79
Ebay Sales Fees: $423.72
Ebay Listing Fees: $20.65
Paypal Fees: $158.87
Shipping Fees: $986.79

Net profit: $1,827.20 - which of course I will have to give the government ~35% of at the end of the year, making my actual net profit $1,187.68

I don't see how anyone makes a living doing this shit. Over 70% of the money I generate goes to someone else. There's too many fucking hands in the pot.

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eliminate the middle man by making your own products from scratch, walking to delivery your product, and deal in cash only

keep 100% of the profit

fucking retard

Inventory Cost: $734.79
Net profit: $1,827.20

You more than doubled your money. Ebay sales and listing fees would be the cost of advertising if you ran your own website. Paypal fees suck, but better than fees CC companies would charge you, I'm sure. Shipping can suck a dick though. Costs me $5 to ship two sheets of A4 paper poster.

you more than doubled your money retard, you can also pay a fee to ebay to open an ebay store and cut the ebay fees in half for something like 20 dollars a month

Dude, just create your own eBay.

But I hear you, eBay skims off too much, 10% in final sales fee is a bit much.

It's a large premium, but I suppose that is the cost to get access to the biggest worldwide pool of buyers for second hand shit.

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You think that profit margin is bad? Try selling on amazon. Its even worse

Use Syscoin market

>which of course I will have to give the government ~35% of at the end of the year
You don't have to pay taxes on ebay unless you sell over $20k, now stop bitching

Why not just sell stuff on Etsy? or craigslist?

postage costs are wayyyyyyy to high, nearly flipped out last few times i tried to send stuff. fuck those cunts

>You don't have to pay taxes on ebay unless you sell over $20k, now stop bitching
dont listen to this faggot you will get ass raped by the IRS. REPORT ALL GAINS TO THE IRS.

Also most people pass the shipping costs onto the buyer, so you're not out that either. Your rant is lame, 13% in fees isnt that bad. Plus ebay is always doing free listing promos, so you're literally retarded if you're paying insertion fees

I was considering looking into Amazon, but if the fees are worse then fuck it.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Isn't Etsy for niche crap like homemade jewelry and soap and whatnot?

This, especially postage to California. What the actual fuck....

i thought about buying stuff at goodwill and marking it up on ebay, but I'm not sure it'd be worth it looking at this. what else can a uni student do who's being raped by rent and school fees? (already working 3-4 days a week)

this guy somehow manages to make mad gains
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i've tried it myself and i lost £120. fucking hateful.

>Isn't Etsy for niche crap like homemade jewelry and soap and whatnot?

Different guy, but evidently not. I was searching for used book listings on DuckDuckGo earlier today and saw two Etsy postings for that book.

doubling your money is surprisingly not enough to run a successful business user. especially when you factor in taxes and living expenses.

>You have no idea what you're talking about.
Oh yea? How long have you been selling?

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used to be a powerseller on ebay but now it's made so the buyer can just demand a refund if they feel like it and send it back, without reading the description of what they bought. and you can;t leave buyers feedback. ebay are cucks

oh fuk, ASS ID

How long I've been selling is irrelevant to tax law, jackass.

Yeah, I've had this happen twice. Both times because buyer didn't fucking READ the listing. 2nd time I got someone from eBay on the phone and flipped my shit. Why the FUCK do they have a No Returns option if the buyer can just ignore it?

How long you've been selling is relevant in showing you don't know dick

Hmmm, I'll look into it.

literally me. sold ray bans that were very scratched, listed for cheap and described them, girl buys them. no refunds. says they're really scratched and she can't see. returns them, demands money. i refund, resell them to someone else. not a peep of complaint.

>law.justia.com/codes/us/1994/title26/chap1/subchapb/parti/sec61/
>gross income means all income from whatever source derived
>ALL INCOME FROM WHATEVER SOURCE DERIVED

Fuck off, brainlet.

I run into the same shit on FB marketplace, craigslist, etc. I swear 80% of people are actually fucking illiterate. Every fucking time I post something, I get questions that are clearly answered in the fucking listing.

Kek. Not everything is enforced dumbass. No one pays taxes on ebay (unless you sell over 20k, then ebay will 1099 you). Are you supposed to claim profits from a garage sale? Yes. Does the IRS come after you if you don't? Fuck no. & the IRS doesn't go after ebay sellers unless ebay 1099s them. But go ahead and pay dumbfuck, i hope you do

why wont one of you turbo autists make crypto ebay alternative that isn't flooded by pajeets trying to sell "make $1000 a day working from home!" guides?

Fuck that kike site

How about you just not worry about how the fuck I file MY taxes, k cupcake?

Now fuck off before I report your stupid Macomb, Michigan ass to the IRS for unpaid taxes since you were stupid enough to share your eBay profile on Jow Forums, idiot.

How about you have a garage sale & claim those profits too, you can be the first person in history to do so. Because after all, its the law

There's no paper trail on a garage sale you assclown - it's all cash. You're really itchin to piss me off, arentcha Josh?

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Open Bazaar
Bitify
(Now defunct) Silk Road

eBay just has a larger user base

Lol. Tax brackets are progressive. You only pay 35% on the income you make from 200k-500k. If you are already making 200-498k via another income source that would be the only possible way you are paying a 35% on those insignificant amount of eBay profits. Get an accountant OP, you are clearly retarded or trolling.

just take a pic and then buy it when someone orders it from you. profit.

And now you've got no platform to market yourself on

Fucking retard

His town is known for its "Golden Butthole."
Google it.
You can't make this shit up.

You're ignoring Medicaid/Medicare, SS, and state income taxes.

Holy shit you're not even kidding...

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open bazaar is actually what i was referring to when i mentioned the filled with pajeets comment. bitify i'm not super familiar with but a cursory search shows it's just more scams on there too.

To help OP out a little bit I've dabbled with Swappa after getting banned from ebay a few months back. There's no listing fees, insertion fees, or final value fees on items under a certain threshold. I want to say it's $50? The downside is there's 1/10th of the traffic on there as there is on ebay so shit takes forever to move.

What did you get banned from Ebay for?

Whatever dude. Obviously I'm trying to save you some money. Sorry
thats Sterling Heights...

>t. IRSIDF

Had an account for buying and one for selling. I fucked up and tried connecting the same paypal account to both. They closed em both down and refuse to reinstate them when I ring them up. I had to make a new account with a new paypal + new bank account combo to get back on the platform.

I get it. But I've had enough grief with the IRS already, so I make sure going forward that all my t's are crossed.

And no, I'm not the kind of faggot who's actually going to report you to the IRS. But Jesus Christ man if you're going to talk shit on the internet, don't be dropping hints on who you are - especially on fucking Jow Forums. It took me all of 2 minutes to find you.

I don't understand why that would even be against the rules. Lots of people have multiple Ebay accounts.

It only gets worst boi. Been running several e-com stores and making a profit is really hard. The best way is to as some have said, cut out the middle man (ebay/etsy/amazon) and try retailing directly. Believe it or not, social media (instagram mainly) is currently blowing up as a shopping place, depending on what you sell, maybe try selling there.


> I started retailing to supplement my income and help me get through university, it was great at first but like you said, everyone wants a slice and the customer always wants it "cheaper".

Recently started doing work on fiver and getting cucked too, 25% goes to fiverr, then at the end of the year i have to pay tax.... ffs such a cog world.

No idea man. they sent me this email after closing my account:

>Unauthorized use of your account -- Please contact us


>Hello user,
Your eBay account has been temporarily locked due to concerns that someone may have used it without your permission. Any unauthorized activity, such as buying and selling, has been cancelled and any associated fees have been credited to your account. Any listings that we removed are listed toward the end of this email. We assure you that your financial information is securely stored on a server and cannot be seen by anyone.

>We've taken steps to secure your eBay account, including resetting your password. However, your personal email account or third-party listing tools may have also been accessed without your permission. Please change these passwords as soon as possible.

when i follow up with them to get it reinstated i keep getting the message that I'm prohibited from ever using the platform again from their automated phone system.

etsy is even worst,

its around 12% selling price, + you have to pay for advertising and listing. + 5 % for cash withdraw, selling on etsy costs more than selling on ebay

I've been thinking about dumping more stuff on FB marketplace so at least I can avoid all the fees, the problem of course is that my audience is limited.

How would you feel about using a blockchain based version of eBay that has zero fees but you have to transact in BTC/ETH ?

I'd be cool with it, but if you can't use a credit/debit card I don't think it would get much traction yet. 99% of people still don't know dick about crypto.

It still wouldn't possible to be paying a 35% tax on 2k in profit even with those added on. Not even close. OP would have to be making well over 6 figures via another income source to be paying that high of a tax rate.

OP mentioned already but you're forgetting "self employment" taxes. Social Security, Medicaid/Medicare, etc.

Go after items with good margins, or convenience items where people wont go out of there way to find alternatives just to save 10 cents. Also products with a million different varieties such as a tv, since its harder to really assign a value to a 44inch tv without knowing the brand, resolution, model, etc. Get cheap shitty 44 inch tvs and sell them as if they are top of the line models. Make "bundles" buy a tv get a bar of soap for free! Just spitballing here

Yes it is.

The 2k is SUPPLEMENTAL to my existing income, which is just over 40k. That lands me in the 22% federal bracket. SS is another 6.2%, Med 1.45%, and State is 6.27% - for a grand total of 35.92% of my income.

I wouldn't want to ship TV's, but I get what you're saying.

>thats Sterling Heights...
Which is in Macomb County

my inventory cost is $0, i have a bot that wins a ton of sweepstakes and online contests. stuff just shows up to my door and its already packed up ready to be shipped when its sold.

Where can I get more info on doing this? I don't care about selling shit but it's fun getting free stuff in the mail sometimes.

plebbit, used to be a /sweepstakes subreddit. i got started just by entering sweepstakes and getting lucky. if you spend like 10-30 mins per day entering sweepstakes and you are in the US, you will start receiving stuff after 1-2 months regularly. i think slickdeals has a contest forum also, lots of candy and cigarette companys give out tiny almost guaranteed prizes.

Thanks will check slick deals!

Lol you are retarded unironically.

>doubled your money!
>making a living
Also
>ebay + paypal fees: 10+%
>cc fees: 3.5% max

the profit margin is lower if you don't buy from the source (much cheaper) and sell low priced garbage

I sell on eBay and probably keep around 70% of the sale value. Listing fees - £0.50 - £2 a listing. Shipping is covered by buyer. eBay takes 10%. No PayPal fees at all in UK. I just have to cover some packaging, tape, bubblewrap etc. I can more than double my money on any sale.

>I don't see how anyone makes a living doing this shit. Over 70% of the money I generate goes to someone else. There's too many fucking hands in the pot.

And now my son you see why cryptos are growing , the technological momentum that created economic growth the last 20 years is now being turned into a weapon for the government and middlemen to have a constant fee.

It's peak clown world out there , even freelancers are now paying to send job offers top kek.

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Literally the point being made, fucking retard. If OP doesnt want to pay for all that shit, then he can NOT use all the capital investments made by said companies. But he is using their services and capital investments AND is making money doing it.
You and OP can suck each others commie cocks

I owned a coin that tried to be crypto Ebay. It's gone now. So is my money.

I hope you're not retarded enough to post your Ebay account on Jow Forums mate. I really hope you are larping.

checked Nice ass

this isn't Jow Forums. you're thinking of the kiddy boards. thankfully no longer anything to do with here.

>tfw
>1.2k investment
>3k gross sales
>600 ebay fees
>100 paypal fees
>no shipping costs
>banned from paypal won't recieve money til january
>still have to pay ebay fees

i do ebay just as a side hustle.

i only sell items which are small and easy to ship.

also steal everything you can from the office so you have less costs for mailing, and packing stuff

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>sell an item for $12
>go to post office
>$9 shipping to some cuck in the south

I nearly lost my shit multiple times

aren´t you brains checking the costs for shipping before you list things?
and why are you even selling big heavy items in the first place?

Its 20k or 200 items sold, but once paypal system decides you are going to hit that mark they will hit you with all the tax bullshit. I have been selling for 10 years on multiple accounts.

I sell t shirts which aren’t very heavy or hard to pack. It depends on the location of the buyer. I’ve been fucked multiple times by east coast fags wanting cheap Ralph Lauren polos

in germany everything costs the same desu

Holy shit, biz has actually become a den of retards. This post is the last I will read on biz

a GOOD ROI on inventory is considered 30% or more in the retail trade. Dude, you're literally getting a 51% ROI, without overheads of a physical storefront, or the need to hire staff. You're killing it as long as you can keep it up.

Sure you can't retire on it, but it's a good start to supplement your income.

found the drug dealer.

>mordecai
Oy vey! The IRS is trying to shoah me

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wtf you talking about, there is 100% paypal fees in the uk. 3.4%+20p

>Not making buyers pay the shipping costs
Dude what are you doing

>steal from your office

Unironically red pilled. They throw out tons of useful shit that you can use