Satan appears to you and offers you a gamble. If you accept, he rolls a roulette wheel with a chance of 1 per Graham's number ( en.wikipedia.org
If you win the spin, at probability (G-1)/G (very near 100%), you get 1 million dollars. You can repeat the spin as many times as you like, each time either gaining a million bucks or hitting the negative jackpot which condemns you to infinitely lasting torture.
How many times do you spin?
None. We beat up Satan and steal the Million.
The chance for eternity is wayy too high, anyone knows it's better to not have been never born, so the correct answer is just to not take the wheel at all
The correct answer is 7 times, but I don't expect any except maybe 1 or 2 of you to be able to say why.
>Satan appears
Throw holy water on my fists, pray to Jesus for strength and beat the fuck out of him.
Never try to make an honest deal with a dishonest being. Even if you won he will never let you leave without being harmed in some way.
I've gambled enough to know my luck. I would pass.
illuminati have already sold their souls in exchange for riches on this earth
Fuck satan and fuck you
Assuming the spin isn't fixed, which isn't beyond Satan. I'd spin it 100,000 times. You could safely spin it billions and billions of times but that would end up causing so much inflation your money would be worth nothing. But with $100B I could put a fuckton of money into environmental causes and energy research and maybe give us a slight chance of not completely destroying the planet.
Spin 1000 times and market buy link. 1k eoy
They did not sell themselves, the families with ties to the Venesian hidden hands are here to do the job they were contracted to do.
I know grams number is just STUPID big. MANY TIMES GREATER than the number of atoms in the visible Universe. But there is 0% chance I would spin that wheel.
>It’s Satan
>There is a high probability the game is rigged or the odds are not as favorable as advertised
>Also, you are gambling an eternity of anguish
>No amount of money is worth risking that, no matter how slight you think the risk is
>Also, there is probably some Awful condition imbedded into the game - “winning” a spin does something terrible to your life etc
>7 spins
Must be some gay math shit or you are just superstitious; and believe in numerology. The correct answer is ZERO
Zero. You don't play games with Satan
Tell me why you think 7 is an optimal saddle-point.
I would go with 8,000 spins, for $8B, thus controlling 0.01% of global GDP. Because I like round easy numbers.
How do you even calculate that chance? There's not enough entropy in the whole universe to get a random result with enough precision.
If I have to spin it physically I spin it 2048 times, the added value of additional million starts to drop quickly after that
What the fuck do you need 2B for? You need pull your head out of your ass. You could live comfortably wisely investing (and living modestly) with 1M. With 15M you could raise a large family and not even live modestly. You would just have to wisely invest 50% of it.
What is the point of 2B?
I would start a longevity research foundation
Never play the enemies game. NEVER.
>en.wikipedia.org
fuck you and your math bs you massive nerd kys
Like China and the head transplant surgeries and the abominations they are creating? You wouldn’t like it so much if you knew what the SUPER rich are really doing. They are ghouls.
Buy islands and jets and yachts
cell rejuvenation + cybernetic implants
No point. They are all just endless money pits. For a few million, you could travel the world and live carefree. All you would need is some restraint and wise investment.
You could spin for all the money in the earth and probability is still 0 you lose. You could spin once every second for a whole lifetime and still be 0 probability of losing op is idiot
I’m not bashing all science, but men have been searching for a fountain of youth/health since time on earth began. The global elite are already doing what you describe user. It’s not the kid-friendly version that you describe through.
and how would you even know about what the global elite is doing?
>but men have been searching for a fountain of youth/health since time on earth began
we are only beginning to have the necessary technology
>What is the point of 2B?
to shit on people with. its probably good im not rich.
It’s not zero you absolute mongoloid. The number gets closer to zero as the “size of the wheel” increases. It never reaches Zero.
> spins the first time
> right as the losing number come up, a fly comes out of nowhere, lands on the wheel, and jams the wheel on the losing number.
> Oh, sorry, house wins.
>Satan appears to you and offers you a gamble.
Congratulations your now a crypto “investor “
Its mathematically 0 every creature ever to exist in the entire history of the universe could spin since the beginning of time and continue spinning billions of times per second and it still wouldnt hit
>It’s mathematically zero
Not sure what gay math you are referring to, but it is NOT zero. You are rounding the number down to zero.
You could spin it ONCE and it might land on the fabled number. This is not a math problem. It’s a logic problem
Shut the fuck up with your global warming bull shit!
The prize could be $0.000000000000...000001 a googleplex zeroes and you could still spin with 100% certainty and become a quintillionaire. No unit of time or money or physical units that we know of exist to make the probability not 0 you can split time as much as you want and spin as many times as you want and still not reach this numbe
What you are saying makes no sense. You are rounding down to zero. The possibility is not zero.
>You could roll until the end of time
I’m not sure you realize how long forever is. You are describing “forever,” which is just another way of saying “infinity.” Which number is bigger? Infinity? Or Graham’s number???
If you roll forever, you will hit Graham’s number. You will probably hit it an infinite number of times.
What's going to happen is satan will conjure a giant wheel with "hell" in red letters covering a tiny sliver of the board and "Million dollars" covering the rest. He'll spin the wheel like wheel of fortune and then it will spin around for a while. Eventually, the sound of the spinning will fall to a click click click that eventually lands on the hell sliver. Satan will say "Better luck next time chum!" and a portal will open that will send me to hell.
Thankfully, my best friends and my love interest will go to hell and beat the devil in a wacky adventure, freeing my soul but forcing me to learn a valuable lesson about sin.
So I refuse to take the deal. I take my love interest out to chuck e cheeses and fuck her cunny instead
>that would end up causing so much inflation your money would be worth nothing.
Just hide your money then nobody will know it's inflated
A modern day Sisyphus. Just replace the stone with the wheel of chance.
Lol fag trying to measure infinity with measurable units of time
I’m a Jow Forums tard. There is a ZERO% chance I will abandon this argument. This nigger is rounding down to zero. Fuck him. He won’t admit there is actually a chance you will land in the cursed number
Your
Very
First
Spin
Time goes on forever
Agreed, am also a Jow Forumstard. Here's how I guessed it would happen...
There is a chance, its zero
I would marry aqua and pay for our wedding with link
Yeah. You are rounding down to zero. The idea hurts your head. What is 1/10,000??? It’s a small number. Let’s look at that on a wheel. It’s a big wheel. What you are visualizing is actually just the number 10,000. You are visualizing 10,000 units of something compared to 1.
The chances of it hitting the fabled number on a wheel the size - 1/10,000 isn’t very high, but it’s certainly possible. It could hit the first time. Right?
Now let’s look at a larger wheel - Graham’s wheel. The odds of it hitting the evil number the first spin is not zero. The odds are actually 1/Graham’s.
Look at expected value of spinning. 80 years of luxury nearly garunteed = finite. Infinite amount of suffering / grams number = infinite amount of suffering. Expected utility of spinning the wheel is negative infinity.
It's infinitesimally close to zero but still nonzero
faust is real
>you can repeat this as many time
so im practically guaranteed not to be tortured in hell?
didn't even mention global warming lmao
how do you know this? also being “contracted” by satan is literally the same thing as selling your soul
Calc I niggers in this thread talking about expected values and probabilities when there is no physical matter in existence which would ever hit this number you would spin an entire millennium of lifetimes as often as you want and still zero chance to hit number
>zero chance
There we go again.
>and how would you even know about what the global elite is doing?
Through leaks, and information they published.
They dont try to hide what they are doing. What we are able to tell about elites come from what they publicly publish. Read about what Henry Ford, the Bilderberg Group, Free Masonry, what Aldus and his Grandfather have written about a world governments and a world society. They cannot help themselves even with Elon Musk and his recent unveiling of brain technology that you would have sewn into your brain.
Not to mention the multitude of public documents that have been released by the CIA, FBI (who are being funded by the Fords of the world)....etc detailing different procedures they would medical/ physiological experimentation performed on people.
I would pick up the books ‘A Game of Nations’, Bilderburg Group, Programmed to Kill to gain a better understanding of how elites and alphabet agencies work.
>Through leaks
Alex Jones is not a reliable source, user.
>his recent unveiling of brain technology that you would have sewn into your brain
I absolutely would if it worked well.
The odds are 1/Graham’s that you will hit the number on ANY individual spin. It is not zero.
Zero would mean there is no “wheel” and no “game” at all. Think about it this way. If you spin the wheel an infinite number of times, will you hit Graham’s number? Of course you will. If you can land on that number, the odds are not technically zero. Humans and computers just can’t properly express the exact odds.
It's the hot hand fallacy. If you flip a coin 99 times and get heads every time, you can convince yourself that tails is due to come up, but the odd will still be 50%
>list Sources as Henry Ford, The Bilderberg Group, Cia’s own publicity available files
>muh alex downs
Never once mentioned Jones you fucking brainlet. How about you read the rest of my comment before responding. You come off as a illiterate dumbass. You know what dont. Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a thing.
>1/Grahams number
Yeah 0, we got it.
I would spin it like a trillion times. Idk if you retards realize just how fuck huge grahams number is that makes it basically no risk. And then with that much money I can create a better world.
Yes I'm sure Henry Ford is a good source for state of the art biological engineering research in the XXI century.
Your math is no good here, this is a philosophical problem
Yep, so you pony up to Satan and say "sure, I'll play that game".
And then you land on the hell card on the first spin, and then spend an eternity trying to figure out why you didn't realize it would end that way all along.
What if i told you, that the odds of satan appearing with this offer, are already in the 1 number per graham number
Could make a program to randomly pick larger numbers. Today’s larger computers could offer bigger sample sizes.
>Randomly pick a number between 1 - 1 trillion or much bigger. See how often the number hits per number of attempts. Willing to bet it’s about a 1 - 1 ratio.
>Per 1trillion attempts, once was the number reached.
Law of large numbers should kick in eventually. I’m sure this has been tried. We have some very impressive hardware that can handle larger numbers and larger sample sizes
The question answered was “how do we know what the elite are doing”
Is seems you cannot read.
>Biological engineering
The Huxley family are known for their support of eugenics. Aldus’s book he predicted a utopia that has eradicated the nuclear family and natural human reproduction---thus solving a population crisis. Which match up to modernity’s problem with families and china’s genetically engineered crisper babies.
That just off the top of my head and will be the last bit of spoon feeding im going to do. This conversation is too high brow for someone like you.
I admit that I am risk adverse. So since their is still a chance, no matter how small, of losing; and since the stakes are my eternal soul; I would choose not to play.
there isn't even enough matter in the universe to store the information to write out grahams number
Nah m8 you've been brainwashed by sterile academic probability. Remember that toy probability problems don't extend to real life.
Just examine the probability of a fair coin (50% H 50% T) showing heads 99 times in a row. The probability of that happening is 1.5e-30. That's one expected event in 6.3e29 events of flipping a coin 99 times.
Lets say it takes you 10 minutes to flip a coin 99 times and record the results. That's 1.2e25 years of coin flipping. If you had all 7 billion members of the human race in on this, that's still 1.7e15 years for 99 heads in a row to occur once by chance.
In real life, someone tells you a coin showed heads 99 times in a row, you don't naively assume the coin is fair. The probability the coin is fair based on the observed data approaches zero.
Live in the real world. Don't cuck yourself with toy casino problems. That's how you set yourself up to get assfucked by unexpected events. And don't even get me started on using Gaussian distributions as a basis for economics models.
based & humblepilled
>Is seems you cannot read.
I know exactly what you're saying - that you pulled all that information completely out of your ass.
>The Huxley family are known for their support of eugenics
oy vey, call the ADL.
You couldn’t preform this experiment with Graham’s number. Computers can’t store Graham’s number or anything like that. But you could do with with smaller numbers. You could “Spin a wheel” with 1T slots. Or maybe more. You could get more data anyway. The real question is, how many times could you get the computer to “spin the wheel.”
>jews are against eugenics
>thinks he will survive
bet you’re a mutt also.
>jews are against eugenics
why do you think eugenics fell out of favor just after world war 2?
academic.oup.com
timesofisrael.com
They openly practice eugenics in Israel shit for brains, do you only get your information from memes? They only practice dysgenics in states that are not Israel.
Ok. What you are saying is true, but the law of large numbers exists for a reason. If you do see a coin flipped even 40 times (and landing heads), everyone will question the conditions.
>Is the wind blowing?
>Is the coin rigged?
>Is the coin-flipper Jewish?
You will just be using Occam’s razor at this point, because the most likely explanation is that you are being cheated.
BUT. Every now and then..........
I think few people here realize how incomprehensibly large Graham's number is. You could spin the wheel every millisecond of your life, or even every nanosecond of your million year long Singularity-enhanced life, and the odds of it landing on Satan's space would still be effectively zero.
The odds of you landing on the number are less likely than you winning every state lottery every year for the next thousand years. You could spin that wheel until you die and you wouldn't even come close to any realistic chance of winning. You are billions of times more likely to get hit by a plane falling from the sky rn than you are to lose that spin.
why have people created this myth that hell is satan's domain? Like he created it or something and uses it as his playground. Hell is God's creation and he controls it. Satan wants to avoid it more than anyone else. It's a place of eternal suffering for all those who refuse the salvation of Jesus Christ, Satan included.
Shut the fuck up, you won't convince me satan.
I know it’s much much bigger than the number of atoms in the visible universe. I’m not stupid. I can’t see the whole thing, but I can tell that it’s fuck awful huge. The number is astoundingly large. No human, or known computer can store it or visualize it.
The Bible and Warhammer 40k novels taught me to not make deal with demons.
This. In every moment we split into infinite new timelines of every single way a quantum potentiality can collapse. If you spin there WILL be a universe, in fact infinite universes, in which the hell outcome comes about. These universes will make up 1/Graham's number of the probability density of the outcome, but 1/1-g64 of a probability distribution times finite utility is still less than 1/g64 of a probability distribution times infinite disutility. In the total utility calculus of all potential existence, you are incurring an infinite loss. This is most likely why Satan is offering this bargan, even though almost every possible future "you" will win, and thus you will be tempted to take the bargain, it will still result in the integral sum of user throughout all timelines to equate to infinite disutility, essentially signing your multiversal self to the mathematical equivalent of hell no matter how much joy you have in every other timeline.
don't because satan is a liar you fuckhead. Plus if he was real then it would prove that some kike is the creator and his (himself) kike son is real.
The universe will literally repeat itself countless times before you spin this number, it's literally zero chance. All the matter in the universe will be in the same position it is now in 10^10^10^10^10^1.1 years which if you divide this by grahams number is ~zero in any physical measure.
I tell Sergey to fuck off because I've already bought all the link I can.
Based on many years of research, I'll unironically tell you how to avoid hell, which is very real.
Do your best in word, thoughts, and actions, to be as kind and loving to as many people as possible.
It's a trick. You go to hell for making a greedy deal with satan, so all outcomes of playing are a net loss.
I'm already in hell
I appreciate you admitting you were wrong. It takes a big man to do that. I’m glad you now realize that it is possible to land on the evil number.
Let’s review: now matter how “big” the wheel gets, it is possible to land on “the jackpot.”
I’ll accept a detailed apology now. You don’t have grovel too much
I’ll accept a detailed apology now.
Or you could literally spin it the first try. Don’t believe me?
Spin it an infinite number of times. I bet you hit Graham’s number.
why bro?
Spin it once just because too much money will make you depressed and complacent
7 is the last digit in Graham’s number
how many spins did you get through before it caught you?
>he thinks he's smart
>he doesn't realise you can very effectively hide trillions using bonds and property in intelligent ways
Ok ok guys you're too smart for me. How's about this, you spin once and you get 1 million bucks, however there's a 1 in (0.1* 10)^graham's number * graham's number...graham's number of times.... that you suffer for graham's number in years.
Reply 'spin' if you accept my terms.
No thanku Satan I already own 30,000 chainlink tokens, so fundamentally I am already worth $30,000 x graham's number
LINK $ 1XGRAHAM NUMBER EOY
Spin. I like rolling the dice
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