The front page of reddit is discussing a socialist revolution

Socialism will work this time. Just gotta kill a couple million more people.

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Yeah capitalism has never killed anyone, at all

People die, dipshit. Does capitalism kill millions?

Interesting that when you have skills that other people can make passive income with, they are willing to pay you more. See: programmer, established musician, Youtuber, Twitch streamer, advertising guru, copywriter, SEO expert, etc. You fixing a luxury car only benefits one person: the car owner. Programmer's skills are being used by potentially millions if not billions of people (in case of Facebook, for example).

>people die of heart failure from eating 50,000 hamburgers
>WOW CAPITALISM BAKA
>People die of starvation when commie centralized planners forget to grow grain
>Look, if you want an omelette....

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without workers movements you wouldn't have (and then lost, for lack of the same) the 40 hour work week, nor the 5-day work week
inequality is worse now than when workers revolted a century ago, which gave us things we now take for granted
do you think business would have done so without such revolt?
with ease of communication afforded by the internet i'm surprised the ruling elite have managed to tamp-down these radical impulses for so long.

This is the real problem. Put some fucking effort to make a living. Learn something.

Except these are tards that have been dumbed down on purpose for just this result. The problem is no strong culture outside of the state for these fucks.

How do you know? Because it didn't happen on your timeline the way you wanted? Maybe shit conditions would have spurred innovation instead of turning people into crying pussies.

OOF SWEETIE

programmers outside of the US make shit wages, even when living in the more developed parts of Europe
musicians make shit wages
most youtubers, twitch streamers, etc. make shit wages

if you're that butthurt about the gains of the labor movement, feel free to work in china doing 996
fortune.com/2019/04/12/china-996-jack-ma/

I don't understand why people aren't more pissed, everyone is just seems so dumb and numb. Must be the fluoride in the water and processed food, or pharmaceutical drugs, or illegal drugs, or...

Well if the system were functioning then the business would adapt and come more in line with the market to bring in more qualified candidates. That all gets turned on its head when there is a lack of options for people or pressures from other places within the system (lack of jobs, increased costs of living) and people are forced to take "whatever they can get".

Binary thinking retard.

Billionaires started funding extreme-progressive minority-identity causes in the early 2010s due to being terrified by Occupy Wall Street

Yeah all the mentally ill easily offended low iq children will actually pull off a revolution. Our glorious satanic cultist pedophile government is just using this as a cover when they start killing civilians in the streets. A completely manufactured civil war.

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It's the FED.

bootlicker

>reddit defending retarded opinions
>water is wet

Pussy.

So why doesn't this luxury car mechanic start his own business if he's being ripped of so much? He could do it for less costs, giving him an advantage over the competition and he could make more money. Or am I a brainlet?

it hasn't. nature kills people in capitalism. which is better than commies killing people because it's more fair.

probably because he makes $15/hour, has zero safety net and savings, is a mechanic, not someone with business experience, and most new businesses fail

>the 40-hour workweek
All this did was arbitrarily set the value of labor at 40+ hours at some overtime amount, thus removing freedom from the worker to negotiate his own salary. What if you want to work more than 40 hours but be paid the same? Now you can't.

The same thing applies to unions and minimum wage. Unions elevate the wage of a certain, small number of workers to the chagrin of everyone else who has to pay the increased costs of goods. Minimum wage is just price fixing for labor, and has the same result.

>musicians make shit wages
Because they're not popular and are unable to make passive income for their sponsors.

>most youtubers, twitch streamers, etc. make shit wages
Because they're not popular and are unable to make passive income for their sponsors.

No they don't and you have literally no evidence to back this

and child labor laws and anti-sweat shop laws deprive children of their freedom to choose to work in sweatshops, oh no

we ain't storming shit

They actually do, kek. You have no idea how much sweatshops improve local economies. Would you rather these children dig through trash for copper than work in a factory?

what do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner in a society that treats him like trash?

OOOOOHHHH so you're telling me that IF I want to work 120 hour weeks for 50 hours pay I can not do it? OMG I feel so suppressed!!

Because commies are too retarded to realize that you can't run that business purely with mechanics. You need lawyers, advertising, cashiers, janitors, transportation costs, tools, etc. Add to that all the taxes those pinko fucks love so much.
They never notice that stuff because they would never try to run their own business. If they did they wouldn't be communists anymore.

How about parents make enough of a wage to support their children rather than you getting your dick hard about making children slave away in sweat shops you fucking jew.

He doesn't have any experience working in a shop? I don't know how long he's done it for. But if he's done it for some time he should have learned something about the market, expenses and such. And ok, he he really can't, taht's fine. But he says his employer can't find any skilled mechanics. Then why doesn't he leverage that for more wage?

These people are hired because they can be paid little. You're literally saying you would rather these people be jobless than "exploited" by capitalists. Doesn't make any fucking sense

once you force your memeinum wage on these people the businesses will just leave, because they have lost all incentive

>commies understanding economics

Except even relatively small youtubers with 300k subs manage to make a living off it

If you can hold the attention of 300,000 people for 5-20 minutes at a time twice a week, you deserve to live off of it.

just this morning there was a thread by a commie who said he wants it because then he's be given a job

Slave owners are not benevolent to slaves you cunt.

But people already set. There own salaries and if they work more than 40 a week they can demand a raise if they are actually worth it for the work they do

Reddit is pure cancer

Did you respond to the wrong comment?

>millions of young people will storm the bastille
commies wet dream

Anyone else remember occupy wall street and how cringe that turned out? Yeah these losers are too weak willed to storm anything

when i got "good" at programming my life and outlook changed pretty quick. i can't really relate to my generation. i get paid a lot of money to do something really interesting and i even work on my own projects that i hope to grow

Im just making the point that you don't even need to be popular on YouTube. 300k is easy when your audience is every 15 year or under child of the world. 300k subs doesn't even mean an average of 300k views.
People can make a living off YouTube from 15-30k views a video. You don't even need to hold their attention as long as the video is 10 minutes

kek. it got cold so everyone went home.

No clue what you're talking about.

Why are literal redditors from reddit posting things from the front page of reddit because they saw it while browsing reddit allowed to post here? This should be a perma ban

>Then why doesn't he leverage that for more wage?

We cannot know, but it might be, because the risks are not symmetrical.

If negotiations go wrong, he lose his job.
Now imagine living paycheck to paycheck (like many 'muricans do) with no or almost no financial base, this would completely threaten your financial existence, even if you lose only a month of employment.

The employer on the other hand, loses one of the mechanics, which he can compensate at least for a little bit of time by asking the others to stay a little longer while looking for another person to take these tasks.

4channel is just another branch of reddit, where have you been for the last 5 years?

Maybe I should make Youtube videos then. 15-30k doesn't seem difficult, as I already pulled off 50k not long after Youtube came out.

What, everyone who asks for a raise risk getting sacked??

big wup

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This

nah brethren. tonight you sell low and buy high.

FFS all these muffassaasss. Sit yo asses down for a big before yalls dieyings of sleep mnmenmgititss.

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which languages do you translate?

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>What, everyone who asks for a raise risk getting sacked??

Not what I wrote.
If negotiations to wrong, it is possible for him to lose it. The risk is anywhere in between 0% and 100% for the employee and almost 0% for the employer. Playing this risk to get a raise is under some circumstances not a wise decision.

>give the niggers your money or you're unethical and we'll kill you

hm

socialism solves inequalities by making everybody equally poor

Lol translation... must be very fulfilling

ching bong dong long

Kek.

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chisa won ton dong dong ding ding ding ding ding
LOOLKUK

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>What is slavery, colonialism, imperialist wars for control of colonies, anti labor violence, the enclosure process.

Lol these people are such faggots. Also lol @ feeling bad for teachers. Teachers are so fucking overrated. 60k a year summers off. Shut the fuck up baby

It is possible to lose the negotiations yes but also possible to lose your job?? that's what you are saying and that is what I asked about.

Lmao

Hilarious because in the half century the Soviet Union existed it was basically occupying foreign countries and destabilizing countries just like every other superpower. War is to man what maternity is to woman - Based Mussolini

Exchange of goods and services. retard.

Everyone without 0 - blood should die

if youre a 35 year old NEET who never even worked at McDonalds and this is literally the only job you can get, why prevent it from being obtainable? no one said it was permanent anyway

that guy is so not a fucking luxury car mechanic making $15.00 per hour in an economy where renting an apartment costs $900.00—like, i guess it's possible, but either he's a typical sociopathic leftist who knows fuck-all about cars or anything else and lies his face off to try to get people to rally behind fulfilling his insane dream of enslaving anyone with the tiniest amount of ambition, or he's the dumbest fucking RAGIE WAGIE in history who literally is the key factor in his own enslavement, implicitly agreeing to it every single fucking day. why would a competent person with any level of skill put up with this stupid shit? if you REALLY ARE skilled, just fucking find another mechanic shop that will offer you a better wage or open up your own business, you dumb fucking wagie! jesus christ almighty! fucking reddit!

>colonialism
your brain on marxism

>slavery
>imperialist wars
literally state enforced institutions

>anti labor violence, the enclosure process
>if im vague maybe ill gain credibility

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If there was a socialist revolution I would be fucked because I have no social skills and making money is the only way I can get people to like me.

It sounds more like you want to confirm your world view under all circumstances. Stop thinking dichotomic.

If you try to leverage by "give me a raise, if you cannot find others like me", it is quite easy for an employer to say "ok, farewell".

The "pressure" one can put on the other side in such a negotiation is depending not only on qualification, but often the security one has while negotiating. And if your home, your veryday food, your social surroundings depend on keeping the job, you have a bad position to negotiate in the first place.

Ahhh... hell. I put my trust in the lottery.

I don't give a fuck about people who say the lottery is a voluntary tax on stupid people, I only bet 20$ a month. I don't even notice it.

It sounds like you have a world view that everyone else is thinking dichotomies.

The state is integral to capitalism, despite whatever meme Internet thinker you listen to. The state literally began capitalism with the enclosure process and enforcing things like contract law and the rights of the rich

So
>The state is integral to capitalism
>The state commits wars
>War is integral to capitalism
But Socialism is just a massively powerful state, so isn't war more likely to happen under socialism than capitalism? Oops, you're retarded

Real mechanic here, that's not the way it works at a dealership. We get paid by the job, and certain jobs pay "hours". If I do a job that pays three hours and get it done in one then I made bank. This retard is getting paid by the hour is an oil change monkey or something else similar. Look it up if you dont believe me, he's not a real mechanic.

What's he's really whining about is his lack of skills and education.

Those people are free to not work, dipshit.

>not debating the point

Show me where I said anything about socialism

Some dealerships pay flat rate. There was an article on Automotive News about it awhile back.

capitalism is the absence of the state you mongoloid

i am down for Socialism
especially after my BTC moons, ill have my cake and eat it

>I’ll just enforce property rights and contract law myself

also we are heading to a really bad place
in 08 half the middle class got wiped out
the next recession will demolish the rest
we will look like a third world country where 1% owns 99% of the wealth and the rest fights for the 1%
its literally taking place as i type this

>being this FUCKING retarded
wow