I don't understand

Because Link will literally go to two trillion dollars at least. I did pick up a small suicide stack though so I'm like 80% link 10% iota and 10% in some other shit.

Are you a LARPer or do you have that much faith in LINK? What use cases do you think will capture $2 trillion of value?
Genuinely interested.

The network is not designed to run at a low volume. It hits security issues and is easy to attack. That's why the need for the coordinator. And that's why it's currently centralized. But if it reaches mass adoption, these attack vectors become economically unviable and there is no need for a coordinator so it can easily be removed. At this point it becomes the most decentralized network on the planet, while also being fee-less and insanely fast.

Camp 1 looks at current state and says centralized, won't work, etc. Their conclusion is that its going to zero.

Camp 2 looks at future state and sees that it will work given enough adoption and says it's going to trillion.

It is one or the other, even Dom said it. It either reaches scale and works, or it doesn't and fails. This is why it is so divisive.

Linkies think Chainlink will be the greatest and they are the new financial elite.

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their wallet is/was so fucking bad, omg. i cashed out of iota in 2017 having never really paid much attention to it but having x3 value. its wallet is worse than... well. anything. everything. awful. kill it with fire then kill it again.

Perfect example of camp 1. Have you tried the in car wallet that Jaguar developed? No? Neither have I, but I do realize that with this type of machine wallet is how the network is intended to function.

I remember Dom saying that it will be a trillion dolar market cap or nothing. But with Bosch, Land Rover, Jaguar and loads of others already implementing IOTA the trillion dollar market cap looks more and more likely. If Tesla announces use of IOTA in their autonomous vehicles it's an all in from me. Adoption isn't needed from shmucks like me, it's a network for global businesses to run more efficiently.

He also said "fuck the markets", so I dont know .

pretty much scam selling you futuristic vaporware that will never materialize. Same team has done this before with other hardware project JINN. Do your research.

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Aye, i heard that awell. I took it in more of a 'markets will do what they do' he knows that focusing on the price is stupid. Build the network and the value will be decided from the quality of their work.

So you fall into camp 2. I agree with you, it is more likely to reach a trillion now than when it was at ATH, but still not gauranteed. Practically every other day there is a new announcement about a MAJOR addition to the team or a MAJOR development or MAJOR partnership. I'm not talking about a bunch of whos either. They just added someone that used to be on a Federal reserve advisory board and cofounded a Barclays bank ffs.

if they stop suing researchers\critics they might probably make it
Prestigious UCL University Cuts Ties with IOTA After Legal Attack on Researcher

So you are in camp 1. It is interesting bro see because it really is a past vs future difference between the 2. But since you are into research, it's important to understand all of the factors, not just the one you posted. iotaarchive.com/

Wasn't the 'reasearcher' making false claims about IOTA? I have no problem with them stamping out fake FUD. FUD is a good thing for everyone to be aware of but when it's made up nonsense it needs to be dealt with.
Maybe we're the delusional ones my friend, i can't see why it gets the hate it does.

Got anything more recent? And that guy's not part of IF anymore because, while he is a fuckin genius, he likes to do shit like that.

Are 5k an decent suicide stack ?

Past vs future is the reason. Everyone whose main focus is the price is looking at a lagging indicator, ie the past. Everyone that is looking for the possibility of growth isn't really concerned with today's price. The second set makes money as long as they don't put all of their eggs into a single basket. The first loses money chasing price movements.

$5k will currently get you about 20k Miota. If Iota makes it and hits a $1T market cap, your 20k Miota will be worth about $328 each, about $6.5M total. So yes. But it's going to take a few years so be prepared to hold for a while.

I mean 5k IOTA, currently I have only 2k of it.

If it doesn't die now, which is likely.
Iota bagholders are even more delusional than fuders

just add another 800Mi and forget about it.

In what crypto does a smart person non-delusional person like you invest in?
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What makes you say likely?

If you're in denial of the risks it's not my problem.
Numers like 1T m.cap are totally made up, like the famous stinky meme $1,000 EOY, that's why i'm telling you're delusional.

As a bagholder, having coordicide delivered by eoy would make me sleep better.
A bearish phase like that requires hard work and news.
The shitcoin is losing too much in my opinion, at the moment.

I remember 2017

>bitcoin will never reach 10k
>bitcoin will never reach12,5k
>bitcoin will never reach 15k
> ...

Some sparse "jaguar letting you choose the most green power for your car" seems a joke, when i read that news i thought exactly: is this all they got right now?

How are you able to avoid the only question I asked? What crypto are you invested in?

What's your intention, to move the criticizm to some other shitcoin or do useless comparisons?
Every shitcoin i hold is doing its homeworks, except Iota.

Well, in that case it's about $1.6m

My intention was to show that people that invent retarded FUD about IOTA are at the same time not capable to talk about anything technology related to the point they can't even name any Investment they would have because they already know IOTA makes their investment obsolete if they get coordicide out.

Rolling your own crypto isn't just a "mistake", it's absolute fucking hubris. Plus all that ternary processor bullshit. PLUS their security depends on the volume of transactions at any given time, hence why you need a trusted node, otherwise a sybil attack is trivial. Iota is peak Dunning-Kruger, peak armchair intellectual, peak hand-waving basement-intellectual technobabble bullshit

$1 trillion could be FUD. If IOTA because what i've heard as the native currency for the machine to machine economy this could be an ecosystem worth into double digit trillions. That's not even hopium, if it reaches 1 trillion it will be the defacto currency of the next idustrial revolution and 100% capture at least $20 trillion.

>Some sparse "jaguar letting you choose the most green power for your car" seems a joke, when i read that news i thought exactly: is this all they got right now?

Today yes, Jaguar, Engie and Entra partnered on energy identification using Iota. Yesterday was another heavyweight in the IF. The day before was an EDAG concept vehicle. Tomorrow will be some other big news.

But let me guess, you jizzed yourself over some nobody at Oracle saying "marine"

Ternary is 33% more energy efficient than binary. It is actually an important choice that they made for environmental reasons. Volume of tranactions will be a million a minute if it is adopted, i see no problem there.
I believe you've just made yourself look like an armchair intellectual by not know what you're talking about

If you check i was the first to say that there's a lot of retarded fud about Iota.
Those are facts tough: coordicide should've come 4 months ago, price tells it clearly.
Coordicide won't make other investments obsolete, it will just line Iota to others, and solve some tech problems that prevent it to be listed on some exchanges.

This is extremely delusional, you can't believe there's just one shitcoin for all of it, or focus just to the idea without looking at how devs are developing it (that's the only thing that market consider).

> jaguar on some to be done rich fags vehicle that promises to allow a fag green choice on a to be done energy fuel network
litterally who what where how why, seriously.

Coordicide is being implemented, it's not just a case of turning it off, it is currently being tested, tweaked and perfected.

How is it delusional? A global M2M economy would actually benefit from only using 1 network. No transfering no exchanging just simple data and value transfers glabally instantaneously. Is there a reason there needs to be another?

Absolute moron comment. Do you not see the benefit of making things as economical as possible? Even if you aren't an environmentalist you mist understand that cheaper faster easier will prevail.

> idea - planning - working - facts - communication - news - results - brilliant future
You tell me where iota got one of more problems, i see at least 4 red fields.
And no matter how much you want to deny, price action speaks.

You're wrong, the fag on his 240k jaguar will choose for the greenest solution, and the more expensive one, while his wife fucks a refugee on the back of the car.
Can't you see?

I wasn't focusing on the concept, tough, but on this being a 3/10 news sold as a 7/10 among the absolute nothingness of news regarding this coin.

What?????? I am astounded that you are entering a conversation that you clearly know nothing about. Tell me one of these red flags clever man.
Price action does speak, but not to the people who it matters too. If IOTA is implemented then it does not matter about the price at all, fuel will still be bought in a fiat currency conversion.

>614k cars sold annually
>Average ownership 3 years
>1.84M people potentially affected
>1 use case out of dozens
>Conclusion: literally who

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Dummy comment from a dummy.
Doesn't matter if the car is too expensive for the everyday man (i'm assuming this is the point you are trying to make) over time IOTA implementation can become standard in all new vehicles, it's not like it would cost much to do after a few years of the big companies doing all the initial work

61 Gi and counting -- I add to my stack monthly. This bear market is going to make me a very rich man. Those who are not buying IOTA right now at this price are ignorant. Plain and simple.

Sorry to break your heart honey, i speak as a bagholder, we don't give a shit about your promises.
I want to see increasing and consistent partnerships, iota controlled robots, niggers killed by iota controlled robots, this is what the market wants.

> Project explicitly made for some electric 240k cuck car
> refers to the whole jaguar market, including plebs oil cars
How mongoloid are you?

Calling me dummy won't solve your shitcoin problems, acting like an indian shills too.
How much are you losing, like -70%?

Dummy racist. Bravo mate. Sell your bags i don't want you becoming rich.

When BTC was about the same age as IOTA is now, mt gox was hacked and its value plummeted 93%. Those that believed in the the fundamentals enough to continue buying during this crazy downtrend were thought of as delusional at the time and saw the dollar value of their investment crushed... that was 519,900% ago.

> t. nigger
Oh fuck, you called me RACIST, i'm very scared, someone seems to have run out of arguments.

Hope so, problem is that there are competitors out there, now, including BTC.
I know that your particular use case scenario is considerably different, this doesn't mean that it will survive.

Look at computer age, or at www age, how many companies tried and how many survived?

You're not worth replying to because you aren't making any points. You have no real FUD other than 'I don't think it will get adopted'. Give me some sound criticism as to why IOTA will not be the defacto M2M payment and data transfer network