How long until I’m rich? I’ve been waiting and accumulating since Oct 2017
Brayden James
>will be used for Bitcoin as well, see pic related. Talk more about this op
Parker Perez
Is it patented by a company? Can I buy stocks in it?
Juan Lewis
Going to be a while, Mixicles are another piece/step to bringing regulated financial instruments to crypto projects. I would take this as a confidence boost to your link holdings. Bullish
Eli Cooper
Btc took 10 years to reach 10k(not including the ridiculous 20k ath at the time) ETH took like 4 years. LINK is the final part of the trinity. Remember 7 7 7. 21. We should see wide scale adoption by then. Hold strong marine.
Austin Phillips
The main takeaways for me:
1) Chainlink already had a MASSIVE security claim to fame with TownCrier enclaves, and still they went the extra mile by delivering non-enclave-base security.
2) Mixicles blend security with compliance, making them absolutely perfect for top-level financial institutions (and everyone else as well)
3) Mixicles basically make private/permissioned blockchains obsolete
I went from chub to full hard-on in the days after the announcement.
Tyler Evans
>Most closely related to our work here on Mixicles is the Discreet Log scheme of Dryja [31], a pioneering work in oracle-based DeFi. The objective of that scheme is to support an oracle-based DeFi contract in Bitcoin that is indistinguishable from an ordinary Lightning Network transaction
Sergey and team believes that everything they build shall be blockchain agnostic. Integrating with the lightning network or core itself is a long term goal.
-The more you know
Sebastian Martinez
21 as in 2021? Why then? Seems so far away. Some of us might be dead by then.
Austin Nguyen
Excellent analysis user, your #3 is the best.
Alexander Jackson
This really is something special we have on our hands. First threshold signatures and now Mixicles; both expanding and deepening the basic on/off-chain function of oracles. And here I thought simply making trustless oracles was groundbreaking already.
Adrian Campbell
>two years is a long time Bitch you’re too spoiled with crazy crypto returns. Would you rather invest in boomer stocks and boomer rocks?
Gabriel Thomas
Here's my question. If Chainlink are the ones quietly dropping Mixicles, after they quietly dropped threshold signatures, WHILE they're working on the industry standard oracle solution, then what the fuck is every other smart contract team in this space doing? It's not so much industry standard as it is the fact they seem to be the only ones doing any significant fucking work.
Connor Clark
The holy trinity user. BTC, ETH, LINK. Everything else is just bs.
Nathan Price
You have to understand that while both threshold sigs and mixicles are indeed groundbreaking, they are very much still in line with the basic concept of oracles. Oracles are the bridge between on and off-chain, and threshold sigs combine numerous transactions off-chain to be submitted on-chain as a single transaction; while mixicles put up a security wall between off-chain content and basic on-chain transactions (i.e. the contract's substance is off-chain, but the actual transaction still gets the full benefits of an entirely public chain).
My mind is still reeling trying to keep up with the amount of vision that's behind all this. It's almost like based Henry Ford put out the Model T, but with seat belts, air bags, anti-lock brakes, power steering, and a dual-clutch transmission.
Kayden Jones
They`re busy making dOracles
Brandon Bennett
yup, thoughts exactly, i just wonder how many next gen autitst kids are going to improve this when im nearing retirement age. Wholey fuck i made it.
Juan Cook
What's hilarious is that the main reason iexec claimed they wanted to make their own oracles was that "Chainlink wasn't doing enclaves right". Which is bullshit on so many levels. And now Chainlink just busted out a whole new level of oracle security, explicitly disregarding and going beyond enclaves (which they fucking owned to begin with due to the TownCrier acquisition).
Chainlink is exposing a lot of fools in this space.
I'm going to read the whitepaper but I had one question. Utilizing Mixicles by itself (no TEE), will the transaction be private even to the node operator?
Jonathan Jenkins
>tfw you're dying from a rare, slow acting genetic disease and your only hope for getting the funds to try and cure it is chainlink mooning to 1k, but now the timeline has been pushed back yet again.
It depends on the aspect of the transaction. You can obfuscate the parties and the amounts to the oracle, but if it's the oracles job to compute who gets the payment (the switch) then the oracle obviously needs to know what the switch is. If you want to conceal that then you still need a TEE at this point. Check s3.1 of the Mixicles paper for further detail.
Brody Kelly
Good thread. I think the fud shillers took the day off.
Henry Powell
Shit coin stay the fuck away.
Matthew Green
Yeah it's oddly calmed down.
Luis Thompson
Great takeaways. Its good they rehashed an old concept that's tried and tested and applied it to solving this problem. The applicability of the solution is only for oracles right. So there needs to be assurances outside the oracle as well to maintain the same low level of surface to attack.
So the fat lard needs a new use case to throw in there since the oracle ethereum price relayer is a massive chode?
Eli Gonzalez
The 4th Industrial Revolution is a multi faceted concept, that is truly limitless in scope, because its creative potential is beyond our own perception to understand. It CAN be refined/distilled to one field of ideas. So far to date, the best written codification of this field of ideas, is Nick Sazbo's writings on "God Protocol". In this, Nick describes a series of traits in this protocol, that amount to a trustless, omniscient, and evolutionary environment for interaction. His main focus on this idea was the focus of smart contracts, which is what link is best representative of, but this environment/protocol/supra-mind has two other essential components that complete the field. AI being one, and the IoT being the other. In the near future/present, large collections of IoT sensors, cpu's, cameras, robotics, etc. will feed realtime full spectrum data into advanced analytical and operation AIs'. This data will be processed by these AI and mined for efficiencies and other valuable extrapolations. These AI will analyze the available data from their allotted web of api's/IoT and create consistently up to date smart contracts, program/code updates/debugs, and to ensure consistent functional operation across the net. These AI will be managing billion and trillion dollar IoT networks/hardware/systems. Their security and end to end turstlessness will be absolutely necessary regardless of cost, because the savings and benefits in productivity and quality will justify it. The 4th IR, is AI, IoT, and Smart Contracts all communicating via trustless decentralized oracles.
Any serious institution will simply prefer to settle and audit transactions internally and then settle them in whatever currency they like. Mixicles are over engineered.
Justin Collins
You're saying that the links are a solution looking for a problem? Dilate.
i hope she actually is able to get the transplant that she needs but GOOD FUCKING LORD does she look like she's gonna grow up to be fat and stupid
John Cruz
That's not a good thread at all, it's just him whining about ETH possibly not being able to cope with transaction volumes.
1) ETH is working on scaling 2) Chainlink helps with scaling (threshold signs etc.) 3) Chainlink is not going to be exclusive to ETH, Sergey said a few weeks ago that launching on more blockchains is one of the objective for the near future.
Xavier Moore
No I'm saying it's a solution to a legitimate but very very niche problem. It's sort of the equivalent to building an airport in 1901. This might make you feel like a genius about to be rich but there's no reason that decades from now when the demand is needed people will use your airport or that your airport won't be outdated. Scream industry standard all you want, its impossible to actually cement yourself as an industry standard when the industry is an infant.