Short Alibaba

>if you were actually smart yourself, you would know full well, that you do not have intellectual conversations with people who are not on the same intellectual level, it doesn't benefit them, and it doesn't benefit you.
This. Sad but true. If you try, these people can hardly followings your arguments and get frustrated while you run circles around them disproving their baby tier reasoning.

electricity can come from renew energy you humongous tard

elon musk is the most glowing remnant of operation paperclip

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and how quickly does a new renewable energy source negate the c02 emitted in its creation

if it's weird for woody allen its weird for errol
telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/25/elon-musks-father-has-baby-step-daughter-has-known-since-four/

It's quite hard to fully articulate yourself when you aren't debating in your native language

biowaste does not lead to a net increase in atmospheric carbon as it was already in the carbon cycle.
The issue is burning fossil fuels which haven't been part of the carbon cycle for hundreds of millions of years

they are both brainlets

This too. But you know a guy is full of shit when he says he "isn't a tech guy, he's a watcher."

Transmission is not conversion which is what he actually meant. You're in the iq valley smart enough to google, too dumb to understand intention.

That aside a honest view would consider the manufacturing & resource costs to produce "renewable" energy. Once you do that wind & co doesn't look as amazing anymore.

nov79.com/renw.html
quillette.com/2019/02/27/why-renewables-cant-save-the-planet/

I’ll trust the guy who runs a profitable company

realmoney.thestreet.com/investing/stocks/tesla-s-main-product-isn-t-cars-it-s-subsidies-14769263

>there's a water shortage in California therefore nuclear
>windmills suck and kill birds therefore nuclear
>large scale solar farms are expensive and intrusive therefore nuclear
>renewables are expensive
Where I live all power is 100% renewable with the cheapest prices in the world and a huge excess sold to foreign companies. I have nothing against nuclear but I don't understand people who don't want to put in effort to be locally sustainable. It's the only way to have any long term security.

also fossil fuels are a limited resource. guess what? want to increase power output by 1000%? forget carbon, there's not actually enough fossil fuel to do that. but renewables can achieve that.

Who gives a fuck about carbon. Warming/cooling is caused by changes in solar cycles.

NO you have to give hillary clinton all your money to fix it!

REEEE

Literally this. Boomers who buy a new Chevy Tahoe when they clearly have the wealth to buy a Tesla.

Living near a hydrodam doesnt count

"Fossil fuels" are renewable. Unorthodox theories (with a lot of Russian backing) postulate that oil and gas are formed naturally deep in the earth"s crust. That is, natural renewable non-organic oil formation.

Muh dinosaurs

Really Jow Forums? Fucking really? When did this place get so fucking retarded? Jack Ma "stepped down" from Alibaba. You should be shorting but not because of gook social gimmicks you bunch of Facebook using queers.

>Who gives a fuck about carbon.
liberal ideologues and people living @ 20m above sealevel.
>Warming/cooling is caused by changes in solar cycles.
correct

Yeah I was talking about the Alibaba guy. Tesla has lost more money than it has made.

As the world heats up plants release water vapor into the atmosphere which is a much more potent greenhouse gas than co2. The cloud cover decreases plant growth which relies on sunlight and the vapor reduces to find a sustainable equilibrium. Fill a greenhouse with co2 and measure how much more heat it retains. It will be a tiny amount more because co2 is slightly better at it than the normal atmosphere. We double the amount we pump into the atmosphere about every decade which forces the water vapor equilibrium to a hotter value. If this process continues for long enough it's possible we reach a point where the previously dominant plant based equilibrium becomes irrelevant and we have a runaway effect where more heat releases more greenhouse gasses which heats things more in turn. I think it's more plausible than guys like you say but it's also not as likely to happen soon as the other side claims. Things will get considerably warmer before we take it completely seriously but not runaway warmer.

electric cars consume less if you built them to
teslas are basically a sports car but electric, they're not the standard
also, for electrics to replace fossil fuel cars there needs to be more nuclear energy plants, which are the safest and most eco friendly power plants

yea
teslas are not the standard on electric cars
the point of an electric car is to have a 2 seat small car for short distance travels because that's what cars do 90% of the time

At first I was going to laugh at Jack Ma, but he's unironically smarter in this scenario than Musk. Musk is actually exemplifying the 'dunning kruger' effect wherein the little bit he knows about technology/science/philosophy is causing him to have very lofty ideas. Ma's more simplistic reasoning is denigrating as being overly intuition dependent, but intuition is highly underrated, heuristics are powerful.

>>we live in a simulation
>completely meaningless semantic argument
>>electric cars reduces c02 emissions
>electricity comes from fossil fuel power plants, transferring higih voltage electricity is extremely inefficient, teslas are heavy as fuck. This means tesla need more c02 emissions

Imagine being this retarded, seriously you probably are a nolinker

>transferring high voltage electricity is extremely inefficient

what the actual fuck

the chink won this one tho

top kek, please inhale carbon next time before posting