Fact about Quant:
4 Main Team members left. It's funny how people in the TG chat are claiming that people leave in companies all the time. Guess what, core members, with two main tech guys (CTO and Chief Architect) leaving at the same time, without Gil talking about it is NOT healthy and not normal if it happens in the first years of business. Isn't anyone surprised they left right after the team token lockup period ended? (April...left in June) Some faith in the company that they started. Who in their right mind would leave a company that claims to have the potential to outdo Ripple and Stellar? Why the hell would you leave a company that early, and why would so many? Can only be one reason:"They don't believe in Quants potential!" (If they did, why would you not be part of something that will be that big?)
Their departure happened at the same time as when they got scammed by TG Bitmax fakers. Why would any professional not check those addresses? Is there a police investigation?
Colin doesn NOT chair (nor has he EVER) Hyperledger Quilt. Why? Because it's OPEN SOURCE. Please go and check it. Quamfy people say they do their research. So check Gilberts claims at least. Don't point to Gilberts Linkedin all the time and his CV as a proof that he is legit. Check his claims. And four members of the team being replaced by one guy who just came from Uni (might be extremely talented, but clearly the guy has ZERO experience in business.) does not look that great. Who is replacing Jean Paul and Colin as engineers?
Second: Being part of Oracle Startup DOES NOT MEAN FINTECH PARTNER!!!
It simply is something you pay for. Then Oracle startup claims they can take you to their 430.000 customers, and this is what keeps being repeated by Quant people as a proof that they are legit. They just pad for a membership.And this is how Oracle Startup advertises to sell their packages to players like Quant. I'm not saying it's bad, it's great. But people blow it way out of proportion.
Quant Facts vs. Claims
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And I think it's good to have a dialogue here. People say Jow Forums is crap, but at least in here you can post stuff without it being deleted and being banned. So please be civil and have an open dialogue
Where are your buy orders?
I have raised this a few times in the past but got banned. I’m really getting worried by all the claims that Gilbert makes. They are unreasonable. It is nice to have a vision for the future but he blows things way out of proportion. And how come you have a community guy with a fake name writing all your official blogs?
Does that sound like a legit future mastodont in the financial industry?
quantniggers are the cringiest race on earth
Redpilled
>Second: Being part of Oracle Startup DOES NOT MEAN FINTECH PARTNER!!!
no shit, it's a paid partnership and gilbert made up 'fintech partner' to placate the bagholders.
Thanks for trying to save us from this scam, guys. You are selfless and kind.
Would love to see a reasonable explanation from quant holders here rather than the same old bs.
I recognise this as FUD, which is a buy signal but I don't think Quant stands a chance against ripple and stellar, and for that reason, I'm out.
And why the hell would you have two anonymous guys (Seq and Sonic) with no picture as the main communication vehicle for your ‘Redefine Wall Street’ company?
Come on guys. Just admit. All those big Quant fanatics are anonymous.
What does that say?
Who is Sonic, who is Seq?
For all we know they are both Gilbert.
Nice ID switch.
This might be the most ridiculous FUD to date.
Nice coordinated baseless fud from angry people wanting for quant to fail. Just bought more
weakest fud ive ever seen
>t-they banned me on Telegram because i shitted on their project out of tribalism :((
Can you please elaborate on what exactly is baseless fud?
Fact: Quant Tweet about Colin being Chair if Hyperledger Quilt is a LIE.
4 people leaving before this can even take off is a FACT!
Announcing being a fin tech partner when you pay for a membership is a LIE!
Fight the argument guys. Come on!
>baseless fud
I don't have a horse in this race, but that user posted clear statements. Seems pretty reasonable and not baseless at all.
ITT: people who don't understand what matters, and what does not.
Most of the FUD around Quant is at least half true, but simply does not fucking matter in the slightest. It is, in effect, unfuddable.
There was the same sort of shit being posted last august when it was 16 cents. People pulling at every little thread.
If you don't like it, don't buy. But you do, that's why you're "fudding" (not very well) to try and keep this bottom open (no homo) as long as possible, before the inevitable rise to $50 EoY and $100's next year.
Statements that are heavily biased and that fits his narrative. You could spin anything to fud if you want to. Or you can go to the official Quant TG and find out for yourself what's true and not.
Checked and based.
The humongous enterprise customers that Quant is dealing with doesn't read Jow Forums, which is what matters.
Quant will moon with or without Jow Forums, and most Quantards has just given up on this board altogether.
I agree that the above statements have some biases about it. But they are not baseless.
They are facts with some colored judgements around it, because there are so many lies and I am disappointed in the constant lies coming from Gilbert. (I used to have 80% QNT)
Can you refute these please:
Fact: Quant Tweet about Colin being Chair if Hyperledger Quilt is a LIE.
4 people leaving before this can even take off is a FACT!
Announcing being a fin tech partner when you pay for a membership is a LIE!
Nope, not taking time out of my day to save bizlets anymore.
Either buy or don't, I don't give two shits about what you do.
Dude, have you even seen the chat?
The moment you ask these kind of questions you get banned.
I have to give kudoos to the admins for allowing the discussion to happen as it did last night. But try to bring up some of the things in here in the chat.
So please someone:
Ask about Colin and Hyperledger Quilt in the chat and why would Quant tweet he is the chair, while Quilt is open source.
Ask in the official channel and see what they say.
I'm already in the chat.
Ask the questions, let's see if you get banned.
CTO no longer needed which means that the technical designs and code are probably done. Good chance he holds some share or QNT. He moved onto the next project.
Gilbert doesn't have to care about notifying us. Price of QNT doesn't matter for the clients, they pay in FIAT. He doesn't have to dismiss all FUD thrown at him. Instead he focuses on his product to his customers. Which is exactly what we should be wanting.
Check those digits, $555 quant next year, lads. Unironically.
based and checked 55$ EOM
And $55 this year
KEK has spoken. Checked
Not a bad thread
Those are baseless arguments. Right now it’s about Quant officially tweeting that Colin is Chain of Hyperledger Quilt, and that being a blatant LIE.
And it’s not a small lie. And if they would send out a tweet like that, what else would they lie about?
So it’s not about why he left, it’s about an official tweet with a blatant lie. Please stick to that if you want a discussion.
Shillbert's house of cards starting to collapse.
Quanties in denial rn. First stage
Is it also a lie that they are the only crypto project in the world who has $10mill revenue their first year?
This is why I love Jow Forums, Atleast this doesnt get removed. I think this is very fair to post and have a healthy dicussions about. Unfortunately there are too many retards here that just say FUD and move back to their echochamber. makes me cringe...
Strong digits throughout
Checked and no.
Hahahhahha and that muscular fag is letting you buy his heavy bags ...gg
>goes to Jow Forums to have "healthy discussions"
That's not really how it works, is it.
I didn't see much bias. He made a few clear claims which could be easily debunked if not true. Which no one did. Doesn't seem like fud to me.
Indeed, with Quantniggers it doesn't work that way. They can't handle criticism and I think that is sad.
So you have proof besides Gilbert stating that? That is the whole thing here. Taking all his words for irrefutable facts. Can I prove it’s not? No!
Would like to see his numbers though.
I think he is a narcissistic liar. But that is my assumption not a fact. If he does have this much it might be from selling tokens at the top too. I don’t know.
Ok, just to get it over with:
“Can someone post Quants tweet from April 26 saying Colin is chair of hyperledger quilt in this chat?”
chat.hyperledger.org
Just see what they say.
Is or has Colin been the chair of Hyperledger Quilt now Or in the past?
Question: will quant moon like absolute fuck over the coming years
Answer: yes, obviously
Nothing else is relevant.
The journalist who wrote that Forbes article fact checked his claims.
No-one on Jow Forums has the exact numbers in a document that can be posted, so why even harp on about it and fud every single day?
At the end of the day, it boils down to either trusting one of the best connected people in fintech, governments and enterprise or trusting an user on Jow Forums.
I've placed my bet and don't care if you did or not.
I trust Gilbert, not some anonymous hater on biz, and nothing you say to try and spin into your hate narrative will change that fact
It’s like he said. We’re just trying to get some facts straightened out.
There is a question, why did Gilbert lie about the Quilt Chair?
And you come up with Gilbert’s (self written) article. Again...it’s about catching Gilbert on a LIE. And you can NOT refute that so you come up with other crap like that.
Besides...that article reads like something Gilbert would write about himself. Not like an objective piece where someone did research. (But that is baseless, so not part of our argument)
This thread is about facts & claims. Not who you trust.
I’m saying don’t trust ANYONE, dumbass. Of course don’t trust baseless claims here. But check what is stated here. Don’t believe anything on Jow Forums but DO check the facts that you can find. Jesus, how hard is that?
Do you have the screencap of hyperledger slack where they deny Colin was appointed chair? I saw it posted here months ago but never saved it
We don't know any more than you do, we just don't assume the worst to fit our narrative. No-one knows the answer to your questions except the people directly involved, and they won't give anyone an answer.
You think this is a big deal? Don't buy Quant.
No-one cares whether you do or not. It's going to moon without you.
Just try to get facts and no bullshit hype quotes from the CEO. Treasury will dump on you!
Oh not this faggot again.
I'm out, thanks for a relatively good QNT thread for once.
I’m just trying to motivate some people from the community to do some fact checking. I did it, and so should you/they. The link is in here. Anything that I post in here might be photoshopped.
>Quantjeet blog post
You are so cute with your assumption that legacy companies will transfer all their data and processes on random permissionless blogchains
There's no benefits of using permissionless systems if you're doing so by using centralised middleware aka quant
This is being a delusional retard
To read the actual message where hyperledger deny that Colin is chair, then scroll through this chat to the 28th of April 2019. The person who replied is high up, can't remember her exact role.
This blows out Quantfags.
3 months after saying they were filing their accounts soon they haven't. What have they got to hide?
Just saw this. Try posting this in the Quant chat guys. PROOF!! I just went up in the chat at 28 April. Look it up for yourself.
Stay quamfy boys.
"I've been told I need QNT tokens to use hyperledger"
That is such horseshit. Of course he is going to say that's 100% false, because it is. Literally no-one has ever made this claim but you.
Stop creating all these fucking strawman arguments against Quant just because you have nothing better to do than spread fud. Fucking kys you pathetic retard.
Someone has just asked for clarification about Colin and hyperledger in the chat. Get ready to try retards
Shilbert, are you only?
"There was no election... and there is no Chair nor Co-Chair."
Post the reply here fren
The message was 100% false, not 50%. Meaning, the whole message. Anyway ...let’s wait for the reaction.
What about the fact that they're going to raise money? And he wasn't sure if it would be in tokens or equity.
If it's in tokens it will dilute current holders
If it's in equity, it makes a mockery of the token. Makes it kinda worthless a chuck-e-cheese token. If price goes up, the amount bought goes down so it doesn't matter how many companies buy.
That $10m revenue wasn't in tokens either. Seems like they're making most of the money on the backend and the token is only there to raise money last year without giving away a share in their company.
How would it dilute current holders? There are a set amount of QNT tokens. You can't just print more.
I don't even know why I keep replying to your namefagging low effort fud posts anymore.
Latest comment. Quant lied
Lmaoo shillbert red handed this time boys
Please comment on the statement from hyperledger
Just some insights into why I started this chat. I don't hate any project or people. Nor do I want people to get burnt. But I have a big problem with all the lies being spread in order to pump up a coin and fool token buyers. I don't like Tron, I don't like the DAG-statement about the ministry of Defense, or Morpheus Network 'partnership' (actually POC) with Department of Homeland Security. But seeing Gilberts statements all the time worries me, just the level of lying that he does. This AX trading company is like a dying company, and suddenly it is the company that will help Quant to "redefine Wall Street". It just pisses me off, because everyone in the chat takes that literally and follows Gilberts footsteps all of the way, citing everything he says, and even blowing things up even more. And I'm sure Gilbert reads all the comments all the time. And like one guy here said:"I trust Gilbert". But you should not trust anyone in this space just like that. Crypto is about TRUSTLESS. You trust code that you can verify. And we all know most of QNT code is not verifiable. So we have to trust Gilbert. But seeing these statements from the admin in Hyperledger hopefully wakes people up.
The latest. I’m banned from both Quant chats, so I hope someone can ask Sonic of Seq about this:
Tag silona if you can, she has replied before about quant lies and she is a vice president of Hyperledger.
Can you post those replies? Or do you have a link? This is a great thread, as it is not about baseless claims or FUD. Just proof. And I dare anyone to check it in the hyperledger chat. I like the guy's latest words about Quants statement: "It is a strange claim"
You guys really try every day with this huh
$100 EOY
Still some people in the Quant chat say this is fake. Why don’t you check the hyperledger chat itself if you doubt it?
This convo is happening right now.
Yes! Someone has asked and it is clearly to be checked in the hyperledger chat. You can find the link in this thread. (PROOF = NO FUD)
Kirk, you are being lied to. Those guys are there 247 lying to people.
Quamfy lounge now saying Colin left quant, so that is probs why they say it. Lol
Colin Paterson has never had ANYTHING to do with hyperledger. That is basically what is being said. So, quamfy will try and spin it and tell you it is nothing and doesn't matter, and try and brush it under the carpet.
Quant is proven liar. This is why people don't believe anything they say.
Now they also blame it on ripple tribalism wtf hahahhahahhahahahah
The last and final professional-grade FUD attempt before SIBOS. It is impressive, even if it's fustrating for the community.
Sibis is more bullshit as well.
Quant is just a community of aggressive bag holders. Who will openly lie to people.
Dump will continue after sibos. Probably +30-40% pump before it
Okay lets settle this *Insider*
Gilbert didn't lie about Quilt/Colin. Higher ups agreed to implement Overledger as their main interoperability solution and have Colin as Chair. The team jumped the gun and announced before higher ups had a chance to discuss with important figures. This caused uproar within Hyperledger and was seen as a betrayal. This was essentially Colin's death warrant. He messed up by hinting and tweeting about it and the team had no choice but to go through with it. This led to a huge backlash which essentially demolished the partnership and Colin's job. Quant are now just another member and there are talks they will have a separate repo. Kayleeann was fired as she was on probation and didn't do a good job. Cecilia was fired on the same grounds. Sebastian and JP were fired as Overledger was pretty much finished. They were no longer needed and Gilbert wanted to improve the team.
You've kept this stream of fud up for long enough now. Everyone with a brain knows you're trying to accumulate before SIBOS.
Lol. Nice try. Then why does Gilbert still say it is true and that they are working with hyperledger and that everything is fine.
I really don’t understand your comments. Are you saying that this discussion did NOT happen? Just go the the hyperledger chat and see it for yourself.
It is 100% that Quant has posted a LIE about Colin when he left Quant.
Any reason for that LIE might be FUD, but the fact that you don’t even consider the fact that this is 100% proof of Quant lying in their twitter announcement worries me about your kind of people.
You are aware of the fact that Quant PAID for Oracle Start up membership, right? NO FINTECH partner.
Some people really need to look up cognitive dissonance. Jesus, poor soul you are.
Because they are still working within Hyperledger as another member. There were grander plans and these never came to fruition because of what was stated above.
You don't see the Rockefellers and European Central Bank fudding QNT do you?
This organised fud machine is so desperate for entry.
Actually you probably would..
Have you not seen the amount of corruption in traditional finance kek
Sure dude. Where did you get this?
Overledger is pretty much ‘finished’. You don’t know ANYTHING about technology right?
My assumption is that JP and Colin left because of all the baseless claims and overhype that Gilbert does. They waited for the team tokens to be unlocked and fled this sinking ship.
(These are all assumptions)
Colin never hinted he would be chair of a hyperledger project..
Even if he did it doesn't excuse the team from announcing early like you say, then not releasing any more info on it for months. It's been brushed under the rug like so many other things.
Kirk, you see how they play you in the chat?
The point is not about Quilt being a success or a failure. It’s the fact that Quant tweeted a HUGE LIE. There was never a chair of hyperledger Quilt.
It is very professional how they divert the attention away from the lie and just go into detail about the reboot.
Lmao why are you two faggots trying so hard to get me to sell, why not just post in the actual chat and @ me instead of trying to get to me on here
Try to post critical questions and you’ll be banned.
They're literally discussing it openly right now. If you get banned from that channel you're probably a retard who deserved it.
First you lie...
Then you lie again....
And again....
And again....
Quote: Shilbert Verdian
No, they are openly fudding hyperledger and blaming the hyperledger guys ... Well if Colin was chair then surely he is the one who fucked it up then... Or was he never the chair? Which one is it lol