Are Jow Forums fags the worst?

There is nothing wrong with being fit and healthy. That's not what the picture or OP is talking about.

The only good advice on /fit is the sticky.

Working that hard for half your day to bang Tyrone's sloppy 2nds

Have coom, noncels

>Working that hard
just stop stuffing your face you disgusting creature

have you ever been healthy once in your life? being Jow Forums is the greatest feeling.

I don't. But you Jow Forumss whore yourselves for roasties. Enjoy STDs or have coom

fpbp

If you are fat, skinny or look like shit it invalidates this post.
If you have to pay for sex it invalidates this post
If you rarely get laid it invalidates this post.

being fit is red pilled. its good for health, mind, and gets you laid. there is nothing wrong to any of that and its only a +1 to your entire life. If you recognize basal human instincts and that women are attracted to fit bodies, you are a retard for ignoring or hating that fact. just go with it.

most of them are insecure manlets that missed fucking beautiful women at a young age because they were ugly manlets and when the existential crisis kicked in they decided to go to the gym and now, as almost 30 year olds, they try to pick up 18 year olds as if this would fix the past. its pretty pathetic if you think about it

Post your pics then. $300 for an escort costs less than at least half your day and thousands spent impressing Tyrone's sloppy seconds

Doing either is pathetic

Why do degenerates with nigger fetishes push that on everyone else? You know you are an oddity right?

Funny pic, especially the reddit comments, but those women are all whores, lol. Must have sucked to not lose your virginity at 14.

It literally takes minimal effort to even achieve this. Stop being a lazy fat ass.
Paying escorts to fuck you is not even entertaining. incels like to say" i have to spend money on women so may as well just spend it directly and get a hot one".
because you cant attract one.
Having a woman enthusiastically suck ur cock because she is attracted and just wants to is much better sexually than some whore bending over and just getting it over with. no matter what kind of act they put on, the dont want it.

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When I was in my 20s I thought only spiritual enlightenment and looking for higher purpose was the way to live a good life and be happy.
Then I realised we're actually animals and letting my subconscious do most of the work was way better.

Now I'm Jow Forums and let myself pursue my primary interests and feel better than ever.
I have a long term gf, don't drink smoke etc, but still am an edonist.

Stop overanalyzing everything and think being an euphoric fat redditor is the pinnacle of humanity.

Pic related.

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Let's say you lift five hours a week. Even at a minimal $20 an hour, you just spent $100 for 1/100th of the results needed for that body. $10,000 in two years. Protein powder, $35 for a month, so +$840. Now you're at $10,840. Add in a change of diet consisting mostly of protein. Another +$25 a week of groceries than what you might pay now. Or $2600. We'll assume the gym and weights were free.

You have spent $13,440 to get 25% more responses on Tinder. After that you're paying $535 a month to maintain those results.

Now tell me in Jow Forums terms why that is worth it. Without any emotional appeal or appeal to authority. You can't.

I said it's a bad thing and your autistic reasoning tells you i think its a good thing
you must workout 3-5x a week. measure and buy scam food. maybe take damaging roids. too much grains and meat. make and maintain social media. talk to the girls. risk rape accusations, STDs, and accidentally bringing kids into this clownworld with a whore for a mom. take gay pics in your undies.
cringe and bluepilled. females are actors for your looks or money. ive had both suck my dick. they look exactly the same. theyre enthusiastic about your looks or your money. not you.

>implying these people aren't finding meaning

not every one on Jow Forums lifts to look like a piece of marble. Don't get me wrong, obsession with anything can be unhealthy, but people pushing themselves and learning dedication to something etc is extremely valuable. And many of us have found meaning in the actual act of lifting something whether for a personal satisfaction or competitive reason.

and frankly, it's a good thing to physically take care of yourself. It adds to self esteem (in a good way - not the narcissist version you're referencing here) and physical activity makes for a happier healthier individual.

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>theyre enthusiastic about your looks or your money. not you.
Excellent point. When they're with a fit guy like that, all they can think about it is how much more higher value they will appear on social media when they post photos together while being on the beach or whatever. Knowing that an attractive man showed interest in her. They don't give a FUCK about your personality beyond what you can give them in terms of social validation.

Yes 5 hours a week. 20$ an hour? what is that based on? eliminate that crap.
Protein powder sets me back about $160 a year. Gym membership is around 200$ a year, and i dont eat anything different because I lift. If anything i spend a lot less because i dont drink alcohol as much or junk food.
Your entire argument is just bullshit.
Lifting makes you feel good, its good for the body and yes you look great for it. Totally worth even that "expenditure". You likely pay for hundreds of dollars of anime or neet trading cards or some other weeb shit a year, don't turn it into some debate on wasted money.

It's completely worth it. I don' even use tinder to get laid either. I could but never needed to.

You are too far gone. likely incel for too many years.

nice digits and equally interesting post

Jow Forums /lit/ Jow Forums Cope more faggot

No one actually lifts to fuck thots, its just fun that they mire. If youre goal isnt to be like Greek God, then you are doing it wrong. You anti-fitness incel nerds are the absolute fucking worst. Have a workout.

>Yes 5 hours a week. 20$ an hour? what is that based on? eliminate that crap.
It's based on how much money almost anyone could make on the internet with a side gig. You could launch a website in about 20 hours and probably make $400 in passive income over the course of two years. Now make 10 websites...

>Protein powder sets me back about $160 a year. Gym membership is around 200$ a year, and i dont eat anything different because I lift. If anything i spend a lot less because i dont drink alcohol as much or junk food.
There are 70 servings in 5lbs of Optimum Nutrition Whey Protein Powder. Costs $55. Two servings a day or roughly $50 a month. $1200 in two years. $840 was the low-end. A pound of natural ground turkey costs $5, which is enough for ONE DAY. A pound of whole wheat pasta costs $1, which is enough for ONE DAY. Eating healthier with body building in mind (cutting out carbs) is more expensive than eating to be fit and get the best results.

So how is my argument bullshit again?

>Lifting makes you feel good, its good for the body and yes you look great for it. Totally worth even that "expenditure".
Lifting makes you feel good, true. Can't lift away a face though. And when you're on social media, the first thing people will see is your face. They won't even click on your profile if you look odd or below average. And I'm not posting a picture of me in my boxer briefs showing off my abs to get attention in the hopes I can get women to look past my average face.

>You likely pay for hundreds of dollars of anime or neet trading cards or some other weeb shit a year, don't turn it into some debate on wasted money.
I pay $20 for videogames a year, because most of the games I get are from Humble Bundle G2A where I get them for 70 cents per title, -90% sales, or are free games altogether. That's all I waste.

I am fit and go to the gym but i’ll say fit fags are absolute cucks. They work out only so that they can fuck disgusting used up thots. I work out for myself and any thots who come at me I tell them to fuck off because I am not a cuck who goes after used up std ridden holes.

Yep or they just want an orgasm from a hot guy. Either way, they dont care about you.
Now you change goalposts. The pic is about Jow Forums guys who do it for used pussy and not health.
>far too gone incel
Non-Argument. I can say the same to you. Hopefully it's not too late before you learn.

Have coom

stupid as fuck argument. You spend your entire existence making moeny at 20$ an hour online? why are you posting on Jow Forums. autistic argument. lifting for 5 hours a week is much better time spent than 15 hours a week you probably waste on ainme and Jow Forums, and god knows how much money spent on autism amiboos or whatever.

The only truth here.

I wouldn't say thats minimal effort user. This guy put a lot of work into his body and his diet.

>he thinks /tv/ watches tv and /travel/ does any traveling
I bet you think /v/ plays video games too!

yes i dnt even browse fit anymore. its full of icnels and faggots. not many there lift and those that do are like this incel who are just full of cope and think lifting might be a solution to their fucked up tendencies.
True, they seem to have end goal of fucking some hogs on tinder or other whores. Obviously they are even easier t oget when u are fit, but its not fulfilling. this incel here acts like thats all you can get from lifting.
What is too painful to realsie is we are humans, we are simple, we have instincts. those instincts dont care if its moral or not. they dont care if you are an intellectual elite and above all that nonsense. work with them instead of against them ad have a happier life. you seem like the typical autist on here. full of excuses. full of reasons why not. full of insecurity. always have a logical explanation for why its pointless to change or do anything different. you faggots cannot be helped at all.

its me user. I go 5 hours a week, don't really go balls to the walls, just enough. watch my diet but dont restrict myself much. it just takes a few years. its just about being consistent. its not difficult.
all that time spent watching full metal jacked or some weeb shit could have netted you a top 1% body in a fraction of the time.

>lifting for 5 hours a week is much better time spent than 15 hours a week you probably waste on Jow Forums
You're right about this one. Not feeling like playing devil's advocate back and forth.

Nevertheless, I'm right about everything else. It's not free to be fit, both in terms of time and resources. And I don't see any motivation, as I don't wish to start a personal trainer career or make YouTube vids, and I don't want one-night stands and get a cold sore or gonorrhea. I wouldn't want a girlfriend of mine to work out either, I prefer skinny fat and hourglass shaped women around 20-30% body fat hotter than fit thots.

>Remember why you're doing this
>Non-procreational sex with tinder whores
Literally, fundamentally, un-ironically, will never make it

I have never needed to lift because my parents gave me naturally good looking aesthetic genetics. If I had been born without an attractive face, or been prone towards being fat, I guess lifting would be a good salve. Every time I see some gym rat with a

>I wouldn't want a girlfriend of mine to work out either, I prefer skinny fat and hourglass shaped women around 20-30% body fat hotter than fit thots.
fit guy here and I agree with this bit.

>work with them instead of against them ad have a happier life. you seem like the typical autist on here. full of excuses. full of reasons why not. full of insecurity. always have a logical explanation for why its pointless to change or do anything different. you faggots cannot be helped at all.
I'm an INTP and I'm all about improvement. But improvement has to have an end-goal I genuinely care about, not based on approval of women or other men. I have an intense skin care routine, my diet is on point, and I dress well and have my clothes tailored. I am however not seeing much returns from having a beach body, when I hate going to the beach and buying clothes/food would be suddenly even more expensive and a chore.

All of those things are literally irrelevant. You are putting them like they are mutually exclusive. Why do you have to fuck STD whores, be a personal trainer, have a youtube vid or go on one night stands because you are fit?

Prefering skinny fat women or any other sub tier looks is just a buffer for inabiltiy to get anything else. lots of guys do it. milf hunters are the same. cant get young women, make milfs into a fetish.

therationalmale.com/2011/08/26/buffers/

red pill yourself. Its fine to accept you dont want to do something and its drawbacks. life is full of that. but accept it as it is. its much better that way. its the true red pill.

Again, the pic is about Jow Forumsfags who do it for pussy. No one's made excuses to not spend time or money on health. But roids, meme diets, injuries, unbalanced muscles, etc. just for STDs? Not good.
>boring as dirt
lol. especially when they repeat NPC motivational babble

>Prefering skinny fat women or any other sub tier looks is just a buffer for inabiltiy to get anything else. lots of guys do it. milf hunters are the same. cant get young women, make milfs into a fetish.
>red pill yourself. Its fine to accept you dont want to do something and its drawbacks. life is full of that. but accept it as it is. its much better that way. its the true red pill.
First of all, I have read Heartiste Chateau since 2012. I have been red pilled years ago and even took the lookism blackpill. Your argument is based on appeal of authority. Have you seen the guy behind The Rational Male? How he dresses, acts, and talks?

I like MILFs as much as I like 18 year old petite short girls. If I had a choice, I would go for a girl with hourglass or skinny fat girl body than someone that has a body like pic related (quick google search for fit women).

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t. Incel

>pajeeta
>heartiste chateau
>likes milfs
YIKES

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t. incel

>Bettering your mind and body is bad
Ok fatty. Everyone on Jow Forums should take the Jow Forumspill.

Fit is fine.
Fit, Biz, and Lit are patrician blue boards.
I found my first fat sergay memes on fit anyhow. Now I'm here every day.

cope harder betacuck

>Jow Forums
SFW Jow Forums
>/b/
random cumbrains posting porn.

Its a poor reason to lift, but you should lift

>Being fat

Enjoy paying medical bills and dying before compound interest gets a chance to make you rich.

>be fat or skinny and weak
or
>be strong (physically speaking)

working out for women is for cucks, i do it because i want to, this whole thread is full of r9k posers

Fit fags are true though. Body matters. Sure, height and face is more important, but you need to max out body if you want to at least attempt at competing with Chads in 2019.

Just dont be fat, all you need to do is eat healhy.

The fuck are your calculations based on?
Are you mega retarded?

Over 10k in 2 years, fuck give me your numbers on that.

>Now tell me in Jow Forums terms why that is worth it. Without any emotional appeal or appeal to authority.

so you don't become a broke down old man at the peak of your wealth.

>lifting for women

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Humans were made to be physically active. Work out pussy. Fitness goals are quantifiable and feel rewarding once you start really noticing the difference

>Over 10k in 2 years, fuck give me your numbers on that.
I did... $100 a week, $400 a month, $4800 a year or $9600 two years. Though I calculated it from [(365 / 7) x 100] x 2

Heartiste Chateau was the only red pill writer that had advice that actually got me dates and laid. It was essentially 48 Laws of Power for romance.

>/biz is retarded but it is at least truly cutting edge when it comes to crypto. Everything starts here.

so wrong

and what is the alternative? Killing themselves? props to them for trying

yeah but thats fucking retarded

Its like saying Sleeping 8 hours a day costs you 60k dollars a year.
So just stop sleeping its too expensive

> females are actors for your looks or money. ive had both suck my dick. they look exactly the same. theyre enthusiastic about your looks or your money. not you.

Copemaxx up this mfa'

>enthusiastic about your looks or your money

>enthusiastic about your looks

Looks are YOU

Money is not YOU

That is the critical difference.

When they get wet from seeing your chiseled body pounding them they get wet for YOU, since your body is == YOU

When their goal is money it is to take something that is NOT YOU, but belongs to you FROM YOU.

Day and night.

Nothing compares to genuine want from a female. True passion, true attraction. It's the best.

Manlets, uggos, fatties and normies WILL NEVER experience it. Only Chadlites and above.

Defeatist faggots here try to drag everyone down to their level so they don't feel as shitty about themselves. In reality they need to take a long hard look in the mirror and reevaluate their own circumstances.

>men in their prime picking up women in their prime is bad or cope
either a feminist or white knighting faggot. look at people like leonardo dicaprio. they don't date old hags, either, you absolute faggot.
i think my "instincts" work inherently differently from yours because i'm not a lowly animal faggot and i don't have to be "full of excuses" to find today's "instinctually liberated" society degenerate and repulsive to the point that i want to vomit instinctively (unironically)

what a thread in general. absolutely top kek.

'tips fedora

also sour grapemaxxing up this mfa

FAT
FUCK

You guys are worse. You're just gambling and pretending to be successful. At least what fitfags do yield tangible results.

> smirk intensely to myself knowing these guys seethe with rage seeing my god-given lithe self with girls they will never be able to obtain.

Don't smirk too much though. These ugly fit guys also have nothing to lose and can easily channel their rage into rearranging those perfect bones on your pretty face.

>source: ugly fit guy with nothing to lose

you only wouldn't want her to work out so she doesn't bang other gym Chads

Looks are not you.
Looks fade.
Worship not false idols fren

>looks fade
Bone structure and muscle does not fade lol. Just do TRT and you can be ripped at 70. Look at Jack Lalanne.

I run and lift cunt.
But to avoid obesity all you need to do is to watch your fucking food intake.

So you work out but you don't think other people working out is a good use of their time? is this some kind of psyop to convince other men to not exercise so you can mog them?

nobody listens to you fatty

>Are Jow Forums fags the worst?
Yes. All highly attractive sexual active women want is 40 year old men with soothing voices not 25 year olds on steroids who groom themselves like homosexual prositutes

>/b/
that would be /gif/

>Actually here's why improving your body and health is actually bad for you...

LMAO pathetic excusefag

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