It's easy to try to shame the willing cuckold. Making fun of them is hilarious, but does it do us any good? These pathetic creatures may have become traitors to manhood, but why have they done so and are there ways to bring them back?
To think that women have this kind of control over men is an incredibly scary thought. You niggers go on about (((them))) when the person in your pocket is the local roastie. If these men are completely broken souls that have given up on their manhood, how is there any way to bring them back?
Plenty of you would say that we don't want them, but just imagine the many men who are in that position grudgingly that just need that red pill mixed into his food unwittingly in order to undermine feminist foundations from within.
This is a call to arms, gentlemen. We will benefit by bringing these men back. Imagine the roastie butthurt that can be had with the advent of their beta bux calling it quits.
Of course each Chad not giving attention will be more valuable per capita, the sheer number of men who are living the nightmare that we can reach can begin to burst women's overinflated prices.
Fuck the housing market, the economic bubble is in women. Bring everything you have to offer here. Submit your contributions here and let's find strategies that will work for all of us.
It's a crucial mistake to think that women are not intelligent and vicious. Stop complaining about their brainwashing and come to the realization that women are fully capable adults that exploit men with their looks. Their neoteny convinces us to give them deference when they are all exploiting their privileged existence.
Our biology makes us weak to attractive women. As for the mangina, with the sheer amount of feminist propaganda, is it any surprise that he is convinced that women have been oppressed throughout history? Chad works to solidify the mangina's thinking on this situation. Women that get fucked by Chad and can't keep him complain about Chad being an asshole. Manginas, like most men, take what women say at face value instead of realizing that women usually mean the exact opposite of what they say. So, when they go to school and get brainwashed, is it any wonder they become feminists and are willing to bend the knee and kiss the creampied cunt?
Of course feminist arguments are retarded. That much is obvious. However, we can lose a couple of battles and still win the war with feminist camouflage. Imagine arguments that we can employ that manginas would unwittingly agree with if cloaked in feminist garb.
Jayden Baker
> Bring everything you have to offer here. Submit your contributions here and let's find strategies that will work for all of us. Robowaifus/Waifubots
>Stop complaining about their brainwashing and come to the realization that women are fully capable adults
At this we realize you’re a fucking idiot. Lurk more
Isaac Ramirez
Many of these men realize that women are impossible to please. Yet the problem is that women convince them it's personal. They literally trick these men into believing that he can't please her, so she needs Tyrone to come in and dick her down.
When she beats him down and manipulates him mercilessly, it's impossible for him to think straight. It's pure psychological warfare with women. They are walking manipulation machines. They can render the average man into an agony that can last a lifetime.
Even when a lot of these men are dumped after she makes her leap into hypergamy, they convince themselves that 1) it's his own fault for not being man enough or 2) he stood up for himself a few too many times and she manipulated him into thinking he abused her somehow. The other major problem is that he individualizes the woman. He may think that only she is like that and has a NAWALT mentality. Can you blame him if he doesn't understand female nature well enough? With all of his gender studies courses in college, he is completely buffaloed into believing he is well-versed when everything he has been taught works against him.
James Carter
fuck off you feminist shill
Zachary Martin
>Imagine arguments that we can employ that manginas would unwittingly agree with if cloaked in feminist garb. For instance?...
Michael Gonzalez
Just stop dating women; make them do the work and pay the tab if they want us to prop up their social status
Then what does it take, besides complete ruin, to convince these men that they are harming themselves and those around them? For men, it is typical that our lines of communication are disrupted by women in order to stop us from organizing against them. You see the disruption already in this thread. Yet these manginas are far removed from any dissenting ideas that would open their eyes.
And this isn't only true of them: it's true of all men. The Internet has allowed for outlets and knowledge acquisition in ways that are becoming increasingly difficult for women to control. As we have seen in recent history, women go into ruin life mode at the slightest dissent, and so we congregate here to disseminate our ideas and have meaningful conversations. It sucks that we have to do this, but if it wasn't necessary, there wouldn't be much use for Jow Forums at all.
The level of manipulation is extreme. These manginas are defending women at their own expense. Yet nobody intentionally acts against his own self-interest. Unless he has something to gain from the situation, he will not act.
So let's consider what would motivate these men to walk off the cliff like lemmings.
Consider that women's psychological abuse of men convinces men that it is the man's fault that she is unhappy (a giant leap, of course). So when someone is completely headfucked and wants his harpy to be happy, he is going to do everything he can to make her happy. Although we know that it is impossible to make women truly happy, he believes that women are capable of happiness and tries to do everything he can to give her what she wants. This, of course, doesn't work, since she is manipulating him to extract resources and since the manipulation worked for extraction, she continues to use it until she dries up the well.
So what does he do? 1) He does the housework. 2) He showers her with gifts, money, etc. 3) He refrains from sex with her (cock cage!) 4) He listens to her shit and doesn't talk back
Nicholas Garcia
Why does he do this?
He cares about her happiness. He believes that if he can make her happy, that he can be happy too. Somewhere deep down in these manginas, there is something that might make him a man yet. He wants to have a wife and maybe kids, which wouldn't be so far off from what stormfaggots are interested in. He isn't asking a lot. Maybe he is in it so that he thinks he will have steady pussy on tap, but as most of us know, the pussy well dries up fast when the relationship gets underway.
Granted, some of these men are actually faggots and have a hag wife so that they can get closer to sucking dick. These are your true cuckolds. Yet what drives them to faggotry to begin with besides their disdain for women and how they behave? Some men might truly love the cock, but some of them, I'm willing to bet, are into faggotry because they know women are hideous creatures and that men make better partners in general.
So what about the mangina that is a slave to roast beef? He might talk a good game about being polyamorous, but, deep down, he is trying to hold onto the one woman who is giving him the time of day. He may be unwillingly monogamous and sometimes incel. This could be a part of his brainwashing. Yet there is a conflicting side of him where he would fantasize about being the alpha in his relationship and dominating his female partner. Yet it's this conflict that works against him in a self-confirming bias. When those feelings are drummed up, they confirm how bad men are for wanting to be dominant and prove to him that feminism is the correct course of action. The cycle of abuse then continues.
Kevin Adams
So what needs to be done?
We talk about a lack of testosterone in these men. Many of these men are manipulated emotionally, so maybe red pills can be injected in such a fashion.
Take testosterone as an example. Soyboys tend to be lacking. However, is there a way to convince them to unwittingly increase their testosterone?
Take antifa learning martial arts as an example. It seems like something like antifa can be used as a front to get manginas to lift. If we worked together with these men and get them to increase their testosterone by putting on some muscle. The benefits of increasing the testosterone in these manginas could have a significant impact on their behavior and how they think in general. If they start becoming more attractive to women, they might be surprised to find out women's true nature.
Maybe scolding these manginas isn't the best technique. Maybe it's building these broken men back up into something they can be proud of. They will thank those who were willing to help them get there. When their whore roastie harpies are looking at them at new ways and trying to keep them around with pussy, it will motivate them to continue, especially when they're getting more attention from numerous women.
This could lead to a disillusionment. If women were treating him like shit before because he wasn't physically attractive and now they respect him only because of how he now looks, he is going to get fucking pissed off because they're doing exactly that thing they cry about when Chad or Tyrone pumps and dumps them and our cuck is left lapping up the mess.
Noah Reed
>Take antifa learning martial arts as an example. It seems like something like antifa can be used as a front to get manginas to lift. If we worked together with these men and get them to increase their testosterone by putting on some muscle. The benefits of increasing the testosterone in these manginas could have a significant impact on their behavior and how they think in general. Yeah... no, I'm not gonna help those faggots.
Isaac Robinson
Is it not our job as men to lead the way and help out our brothers in need? 'Bros before Ho's' has always been a fucking joke because women have infiltrated our ranks and completely undermined us to fight with each other rather than work together to have it work for all of us. Nobody reasonably expects to change the laws in any given country. We have a lot of non-starting 'movements' that are continually undermined and marginalized. We need to explore new ways of taking the power back.
As for memes, their indoctrination runs deep, and, sadly, it is imprinted onto a male brain, so there is more logical underpinning to the arguments they make in defense of feminism. Of course we have superior arguments, when a man is outwitted by logic, he will recognize it, despite bitching out and resorting to the underhanded tactics that come naturally to women. It is important to remain calm and be the bigger man in the situation. It is vital to calmly present the case in a consistent fashion without raging at their stupidity (or else you're just like them). You may have to know more about the topics at hand than you really want to study. There are many topics that many of us will be lacking that need a good brush up. For instance, many of us are convinced that women shouldn't be considered people in the eyes of the law. Whatever you believe, none of them are going to buy such a claim. What you can do instead is emphasize the responsibilities that go along with those rights.
Rhetoric becomes incredibly important here. Being divisive isn't going to get you very far. If you can give these manginas the right feels, they'll put their guard down. Make them think you're a sympathizer. Give them some sugar to go with that medicine. Make it seem like women are being empowered by taking on such responsibilities. After all, we know how much women love them!
Daniel Cooper
>I'm not gonna help those faggots.
You're not. Are you really going to fear them with a little extra muscle? It's a ploy to help them see the light and abandon their views.
As nice as this will be, it isn't going to do much good without artificial wombs. We need more research into this field. What ways could you suggest to manginas to work toward getting support for them?
Yeah, under that logic we should send weapons right now to isis too, in that way they will start to love democracy and hate islam.
Lincoln Diaz
Of course the shills are out tonight. Anyway, the fight continues. It's not like we're perfect either. Many of us are thinking with blind aggression and want to use violence to solve all of our problems. Well, after countless wars and mass graves, we still have full-blown feminism cucking the shit out of men at large. Your feels aren't going to win this fight, gentlemen. It is going to take superior reasoning and though to get the job done. We actually have to use our brains.
Every man is susceptible to being turned to the side of feminism. Most of you stormfaggots want us to breed these roasties despite the fact that it would be absolute ruin for the vast majority of us. It's about the dumbest strategy known to man. "Muh white race" is basically asking men to become slaves to women to save the white race. It's literally an argument to give women more power over men. It seems like shilling to me.
Anyway, we know that arguing with holes is a complete waste of time. Starving them of attention is the best strategy when it comes to women. Yet if we can turn these manginas into men that will starve women of attention, we might actually be onto something. After all, women have managed to sway these manginas to begin with. There must be other ways for us to get them back, if only to starve the beast.
Chase Lee
>under that logic we should send weapons right now to isis too
Not really, it would be more like MKULTRA and feeding people lsd in order to control their behavior. Except we know that testosterone is a far better drug to make it happen. They're soyboys because they lack testosterone to begin with.
Jacob Rivera
In particular, if we can make these manginas men again, we haven't lost anything. We have nothing to lose. If they go back to being manginas, then if we were, for example, working out with these people, we got a little stronger in the process and learned more about our enemy. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer? We need a fundamental improvement in our approach. Normies are cutting off our classic avenues and we're basically a containment board for an Internet awash with faggotry. It's time we start retooling and having a bigger impact.
Jayden Evans
And, come to think of it, if by some miracle some of these soyboys become Chads and start making feminists compete with each other for them, we will have caused a shitstorm. They're already on the other side. They're not pulling Chads from our ranks, more feminists will be competing for the attention of these former soyboys. Roasties will find themselves further frustrated as more beta bux disappear and become more scarce. If anything, stormfaggots should be thrilled because most of these soyboys are white and these roasties would be getting pregnant by white boys instead of race mixing with Tyrone.
Chads on our side are usually avoiding feminists for anything except hate fucks anyway. Nothing of value was lost and we would make nothing but gains.
Chase Myers
I understand your point, but your idea is a double edge strategy, there is nothing that can assure that given some antifa faggots a little bit of testosterone would change their mind set, in my view point it could radicalize them to the point of bringing molotovs to the street, if you want manginas to get mkultred you shouldn't rely only on the hormone, as for me I would combine it with soft propaganda, as somehow you pointed here but yet you have not given an example.
I'm not saying that your plan is full of shit but it seems too risky at a high cost of effort.
Julian Sullivan
>if you want manginas to get mkultred you shouldn't rely only on the hormone, as for me I would combine it with soft propaganda, as somehow you pointed here
The thing of it is that I'm not necessarily relying on one or another technique. Let's combine techniques. Let's do whatever it takes.
I'm all for soft propaganda. Recently, I've been brainstorming some memes and this current track has begun to result. It's like since we're on Jow Forums our default stance is to argue rather than to collaborate. It's understandable, we've all had enormous arguments on here, but collaboration is far stronger.
> it seems too risky at a high cost of effort.
What are some ways you would suggest that would lower the risk and the cost of effort? I'm thinking in terms of a lighthouse to solve the free-rider problem. What about you?
I admire your brio, but in my experience the "men" you're talking about generally can't be reasoned with. They view gender realism as attacks on their own sexuality. A lot of these men believe that if you push back against the feminist order, you're lowering your own SMV. Talk doesn't dissuade them from this delusion, it's something you have to learn through trial and error. That's my experience anyhow.
>They view gender realism as attacks on their own sexuality. A lot of these men believe that if you push back against the feminist order, you're lowering your own SMV
That's a good point. This is why I'm of the opinion that we have to take a more covert approach. There must be ways to sneak a few red pills over the walls and across the borders.
We don't need to sperg out. Yet if we raised their SMV enough for them to get a different perspective, that might just do the trick.
It's not like we have to appear as though we are pushing back against feminism at all. Are there ways to be pro-male that would superficially benefit feminists while undermining them? Fucking these women doesn't seem to do the trick, no matter how much Chad you are, how big your dick is, or how much money you make. Women's dopamine receptors are totally btfo and no single man could possibly satisfy her.
So, it appears to me that one of the other alternatives would be to subvert the manginas since they are more succeptable to manipulation to begin with.
Your pic related makes a good point. With 3d tech making more porn, maybe we can entice them with a digital camwhore that would have them spilling resources into our coffers and dropping redpills on them as they're getting off? It's a horrendous thought, but it's an idea. It seems like a reverse jewry, but what do we have to lose?
Henry Moore
>What are some ways you would suggest that would lower the risk and the cost of effort? Idk, yet. But right now the soft propaganda it's something that I'll bet my money on, let's develope it first until the hormone thing seems less risky.
>Idk, yet. But right now the soft propaganda it's something that I'll bet my money on, let's develope it first until the hormone thing seems less risky.
Memes, what else? Anyway, do you have a few ideas, maybe some OC?
Adrian Thomas
The general idea that I have right now is sneaking some half redpills like the image that I did above, and some way that supports something that we want as you did earlier. The most important thing that I see right now is that we need to pass the blame on the ones that they blame (hence man, police, trump supporters, etc.) and make these arguments as theirs, then they will unirlonically suport the things that we want (but there is the problem that we must show that we don't want it so they can do it without hesitation, that could be pretty hard) that is with your image and for the image that I made, once that they came up with this argument they will be easy pray because it's a trap designed to bring up the black on black murder, it could be a complete cognitive dissonance bomb. So there are good points that could came up from this, maybe we should start another thread trying to make more of this, and use this for other researchs, like the testosterone thing.
>we need to pass the blame on the ones that they blame (hence man, police, trump supporters, etc.) and make these arguments as theirs, then
Your meme seems like it would backfire on us. This seems like something we need to be careful of.
Albeit we could keep our focus on something we can all agree upon, hence my focus on feminism.
Yet that is a good point about letting these points manifest themselves so it appears that it was their own idea. That is tricky, but that is why we have meme magic.
The robotwaifu thing is really nice, but at the end of the day, men know that they want to reproduce. The artificial womb alone could bring feminists to their knees faster than Chad or Tyrone ever could.
As for companion dolls, feminists are arguing that they are tantamount to rape, but is there a way to put a positive spin on them?
What comes to mind is that maybe going after the full-blown manginas is a tall order. There must be plenty of moderate manginas that are hiding power levels they don't really understand yet.
Maybe we could attract women to the idea of men fucking these dolls in order so that women don't have to fuck their boyfriends or husbands. Once a man gets a good taste for the doll, he might start to realize that the doll makes a better partner than his girlfriend or wife.
Jason Lewis
Ok, I like this one! This one is pretty clever.
Brandon Moore
>Maybe we could attract women to the idea of men fucking these dolls in order so that women don't have to fuck their boyfriends or husbands. Once a man gets a good taste for the doll, he might start to realize that the doll makes a better partner than his girlfriend or wife.
OR if we could convince men that it would help suppress his inclination to look for more partners so that he can be more faithful to his roastie.
>Maybe we could attract women to the idea of men fucking these dolls in order so that women don't have to fuck their boyfriends or husbands. I... was... going to propouse that pushing in women the idea that buying their husbands a sexdoll could make him let her cuck him easily but... it could backfire really bad...
>Your meme seems like it would backfire on us. It's how it could pass their filters as something that someone of theirs thought, giving them arguments that we want and we can destroy easily like traficking them chinese weapons disguised as American made ones on their ranks. Passing the blame to them will present resistance as it was shown every time, the only way I can see it work in my opinion is if the movement it's on it's last days and it's about to collapse so they are already surrendering.
>The robotwaifu thing is really nice It's the ultimate goal for me because once we reach that stage it will be complete huge blow on their agenda really hard to fix.
Yeah, but anything besides sport fucking women is the path of cuckoldry these days. The modern slag is degeneracy personified. Besides, maybe these men need a good cucking. The quicker the man is cucked, the faster the relationship spirals to breakup or divorce. If she speeds up this process, then maybe that's a good thing. If the cuck goes through this more quickly and gets to understand the true nature of women in a shorter amount of time, maybe that will change his mind, especially when his companion doll waifu never gave him any trouble whatsoever.
Carson Perez
Feel free to join the conversation in depth!
Charles King
It will never work until women are put back into subclass citizens where they were for millennia. There needs to be targeted litigation destroying women's rights because there is no alternative method to organize society and the "Sexual Revolution" grand experiment has failed miserably.
Kayden Hill
>here needs to be targeted litigation destroying women's rights because there is no alternative method to organize society and the "Sexual Revolution" grand experiment has failed miserably.
Changing the law isn't going to happen. That is why MGTOW is becoming popular. Just think about how powerful men will be once we can play by feminist rules and still get them to submit.
That is why we're having this conversation. We're coming up with ways to help achieve this result.
Jackson Thompson
Idk man, I don't believe that it's a good idea, what if the wife is realy loyal and because of the propaganda we push that guy's relationship to get wrecked? on second thought you are right, we must be really careful with this thing and maybe push it in other direction.
The other direction that I mean is focusing on the benefits that it could bring and not promoting cuck fetish.
Hunter Morris
Playing by feminist rules is physiologically impossible, men are genetically programmed to cuck to women. One of the original tenets of society was rewarding men who would be angry and violent with a marriage and family. Without it society doens't work, legal traditionalism is millennia old and needs to be reinstated. Only the last several decades have this experiment and the results are obvious.
Unlike women, we have to rise above it. When we level the playing field, it won't be such a big deal. The problem with women is that they're value is incredibly overinflated. The survival of the species depends on popping this bubble.
Austin Ward
You know what? fuck it, let's do it, who don't risk don't win.
Mason Edwards
That's not too bad either.
Camden Walker
Just like every ideal about, heh just everyone will rise above and we'll implement the perfect Communistic state, people won't rise above their nature. Men will continue to cuck to women as it is natural and unless they are 115 IQ + they aren't even capable of rising above. If the survival of the species depends on it instating an authoritarian society and destroying women's rights is a much more realistic option, seeing how it worked for all of human history.
Evan Jones
>You know what? fuck it, let's do it, who don't risk don't win.
The main problem is that bringing back marriage is almost impossible at least at short term, you have all the feminist, atheist, fags and normies that can vote against the traditional system, in addition the church doesn't have the same power it has and without the social pressure and the stigma it has in the last century it won't work, it seems so hard to get that fully develope waifu like automatas seems a lot closer and easier, it's really fucked up and I wish that things were different.
Honestly I think the overall wave for the right isn't strong enough for us to muddle the vision like that. People are still just figuring it out, and this could really mess some of the more easily persuaded people who would have joined.
Tyler Miller
>come to the realization that women are fully capable adults wew lad
There is a 2 year lagging trickle down effect for it to reach the normies. It's like how no one white knights anymore because they know what a *white knight* is and it's past it's peak/prime.
When maginas are self aware of being maginas it will be destroyed and chased closer and closer to the edge of red pilling people.
Just imagine just 3-5 years ago conspiracy theorist were scrutinized, and now 1/3rds of the planet are red pilled about all sorts of things. The people that are correct will prevail in the end but it's a slow process.
You're missing the point. If women have rights, then we focus on how adult it is of them that they take on the responsibilities (that they always force onto men).
Cameron Green
>When maginas are self aware of being maginas it will be destroyed and chased closer and closer to the edge of red pilling people.
That isn't a terrible way of looking at it, but it's not exactly reliable. The future can go in many directions.
Aiden Wright
>and this could really mess some of the more easily persuaded people who would have joined Do you mean on their or on our side? I doubt that the guys on our side will hate this, it's about outsmarting the other side and it is justified as shown them some truth. And about the newfags I believe that they could be attracted by something clever instead of the other way around, of course if they still are pro PC they would hate us regardless if they come here or not, something like that wouldn't change nothing, well... maybe pushing the cuck shit in favor of sexbots would though...
Justin Nelson
Mentally redpilling Low T Cucks is impossible. What they really need is encouragement to be Jow Forums.
If they're too lazy/fat to act on that advice, then Natural Selection has spoken and they aren't worth your time.
Testosterone is the basis of Fascism and it's also why The Third Reich heavily promoted physical fitness.
An estrogenic soyboi will never make it, even when truth and logic are right in front of their fucking face.
Charles Turner
>the economic bubble is in women. Misandry Bubble.
Kudos on this thread. Bumping.
David Butler
But the movements of the lefties and feminists are actually red pilling people by accident, we literally have Trump as president.
Do you understand they are creating more alt-right people by doing this? Understand they are at full force discrediting Trump 95% of the time in MSM, Popular youtubers, Celebrities and he still got elected at the time.
Aiden Young
Hmmmm looking at it again it seems pretty obvious, maybe this would work better.
>What they really need is encouragement to be Jow Forums.
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Oliver Adams
Encourage weak men to be strong. Only those that can compete will reject socialism.
I get why many men who have potential turn out weak. Single moms, educational system propoganda, a culture of rewarding parasites and harming productivr people, etc. They are trying to be valuable to feminists as their only shot.
Robert Cox
I liked the last one better. This one seems more obvious to me.
fucking scary shit, but then again people use this to their advantage to abuse making money off idiots and completely gave up on helping these hopeless people.
>Do you understand they are creating more alt-right people by doing this? Understand they are at full force discrediting Trump 95% of the time in MSM, Popular youtubers, Celebrities and he still got elected at the time.
That's all well and good, but women are losing their minds. So we're going to hyperinflate the egos of roasties until their economy collapses.
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Carter Harris
>However, we can lose a couple of battles and still win the war with feminist camouflage. Imagine arguments that we can employ that manginas would unwittingly agree with if cloaked in feminist garb.
>Women have never been seen as full citizens because they haven't adequately served in the military. >Same was true for various racial minorities. >Women should be drafted with the intention of having 90% females in combat positions to correct the balance.
Nathan Robinson
I did the second version so it could be spread by them, I can't imagine the lefty fags spreading the first one.
Random question, anyone knows if the memewarfare bureau is still alive?
>I did the second version so it could be spread by them, I can't imagine the lefty fags spreading the first one.
Right on. The only thing I can think of that would make those abortion memes futile is that women don't give a fuck about black aborted fetuses. However, I could see women falling into the narcissistic trap letting their cucks have companion dolls so that they don't have to fuck their cucks and can save themselves for Tyrone or Chad. The idea of hyperinflating the roastie economy is something we can all get behind. Call it the Whiner Recuntlick.
I have to hit the sack, but I'll check up on the thread in a few hours. Hopefully a few more Jow Forumstards will contribute some OC if we're lucky. Although I thank everyone for helping me flush out some more ideas.
I'm going to run with this one. Roastie hyperinflation is pure gold.
Caleb Miller
hahaha that's not bad. Maybe switch the "I" to "you" so it speaks to the consumer (her).
