At some point in the not-too-distant future people will own printing devices which will be able to fabricate a range of different objects. Including guns, gun parts, and bullets.
All you need are the (open source) software blueprints and the materials.
Do you believe this will require regulation of some sort?
The whole point is gun control will be obsolete in 30 years.
Dominic Anderson
>They fall apart after firing about a dozen times >still cheaper to make one in metal shop that lasts forever
Most seppos I know with a bit of shop skills can make fine quality rifles at home. They’re quite good at it. I think the next stage would be 3D printable ammo.
You are aware that printers can be made to reject gun printing instuctions?
Nicholas Thompson
Yes but again, the important part are the bullets. You be ready when the libs actually learn how guns work and start banning bullets or bullying companies into stopping production.
Anyone can make a shitty gun, making modern gunpowder is much harder.
Justin Wilson
Lol. Because nothing designed to do a thing has ever been made to another thing. Especially where code is concerned.
Benjamin Bell
I understand what you mean by this and on this day you have opened my eyes
Evan Price
>TFW, being too stupid to make a gun from home-Depot scrap
It's not that hard once you get the jest of it. The issue is getting the materials, and often, people selling them for scientific purposes will often put anti-explosive shit mixed into them. Anyway, anybody knows how we could make bullets using fertilizer as the "explosive" part of the bullet?
Owen Scott
LOL. A gun is nothing more than a very precise hammer, with springs and shit to get the next round into place.
It's like trying to keep printers from printing hammers. How the fuck is that supposed to work?
Zachary Richardson
Under thirty, lol. It's closer to 10 minutes in KS. No background check here with CCHL
Jeremiah Reed
>make printing guns illegal >if you own a printed gun, might as well just own a real, smuggled gun that doesnt explode in your face >or if you really want to be a cheap asshole just build a slamfire gun from a piece of rusty pipe
I dont get what gunfags expect from this.
Elijah Sanchez
3D printers are relatively essy to make. The firmware is easy to get to modify from open source. Unless you can control all information flow, you can't stop anyone from building one with an arduino, an extruder, and various bits of wire and plastic. G code is easy to produce and is well documented.
I dream of the day 3D printing will make all anti-gun laws completely obsolete. That anyone anywhere can make a good gun.
Ethan Rogers
3D printing is going to radically change the world. One of those changes is that anybody will be able to just print out a gun. Gun control will be useless.
Jackson Cook
you can already buy 80% kits, ar's ak's glocks, sig's, 1911's complete kits, legal to purchase that ship to everywhere in the us, they cost more and need to get jigs to finish, but no registration, legal to buy without checks, so you have a piece stashed in the rafters for that day of the rope
Carter Turner
3d printers are a meme.. gtfo
Adrian Gomez
no u
Elijah Brooks
Can I get a quick rundown on 3D printer plastic?
Can it be as durable as the polymer they guns with?
That upper and the fire control components, pins etc arent printed. But youre right, 3dp will change everything, printed drugs, JIT local manufacturing etc.
Austin Anderson
Funny thing because they haven't been able to do that to my lathe and milling machine. It surprises me to no end that in general people think firearms are these master-crafted items made in secret labs on hidden islands.
Depends on the plastic PLA won't because cheap dicks all you need is pliable material with a low enough melting point that hardens after heating, or being bonded with something.
Isaac Kelly
look up button rifling, its a basic shop procedure
Xavier Moore
good luck with that, fren
Luis Price
Everything started out as a meme at one point. I think 3d printers are still very primitive in comparison to what they will be in 10-20 years.
>Including guns, gun parts, and bullets. I HIGHLY doubt that the plastics used in 3D printers have enough structural integrity to replace conventional metal in a regular gun, especially when it comes to heat and the amount of force it needs to withstand. A lot of integral components simply have to be metal. Aside from that you can not 3D print bullets, that is not how it works.
Angel Cooper
ban metal tubing
Adam Anderson
The thing about tech like 3d printers is that they can outlaw gun patterns, make it so that it cannot be printer etc etc, but someone will jailbreak the thing in a very short time frame and it will stop no-one. >Just like denuvo
Evan Price
>the g11 will never into mass production
fuck my life
Carson Lewis
How are they even going to determine gun patterns. Example There are pneumatic sprayguns for auto refinishing. Ive printed them off before. Are they going to be able to ban those? They look like guns. Another example Have you seen a lower receiver of an ar15? Its not anything conplex looking, or even that distinct.
Ian Davis
>Do you believe this will require regulation of some sort? nope, too expensive, just use the court on the shitheads who do bad things with them and track known shitheads and charge them with conspiracy which is already a thing
all you need is intent to show harm so regulating this will actually harm your ability to catch bad guys
Kayden Ramirez
They won't be able to. You could always just make something that doesn't like a conventional firearm internally, like the G11 or P90. The Jew fears the 3D printer.
>The thing about tech like 3d printers is that they can outlaw gun patterns there have been people selling CNC machines with pre made jigs and patterns to make receivers for ages now, it is now technically impossible to regulate and track firearms
Mason Sanders
you can 3d print with metal these days lad
Oliver Foster
>you can 3d print with metal these days lad we can 3D print replacement organs and delicious veal steaks these days as well
vegans vs meat eaters debate BTFO
Nathan Walker
That's the point I was trying to make. There is no way of getting rid of firearms at this point, we have come to far.
Austin Barnes
Don’t see how. There are unlimited variations. It’s not like a 2d printer recognizing that you’re trying to make counterfeit currency. That’s done and the scanning level and in newer versions of image editing software made in cooperation with governments though.
Xavier Smith
>Do you believe this will require regulation of some sort? Regulate what exactly? The software, hardware, or both? The software side will never be able to be regulated. The homemade 3d printer market is too well established to regulate the hardware in a way to stop printing a part that is claimed to be for a gun. You can not regulate 3D printers any more than you can regulate machinist working with metal or carpenters working with wood.
I don't think you, and some other people in this thread know that metal 3d printers already exist. You can print metal already so how does that not have the same structural integrity. These are still very expensive though. This will change in the next 10 years.
right, thats why me and some friends of mine who are retired special forces are forming a company to train high school students in rifle shooting and safety, thats the only way out of this mess. it was also the plan the whole time, we going to have a real bloody war everyone needs training
Joseph Flores
>The software side will never be able to be regulated. I don't agree though, I think if someone had a software that was doing illegal things that weren't constitutionally protected, that could be legislated against and is, like software that specifically attempts to harm your system should be illegal but isn't, while breaking into protected systems is protected
Jeremiah Jackson
>You are aware that printers can be made to reject gun printing instuctions? yeah because people wont do firm ware hacks make yourself a rope tie and swing
Juan Foster
Why not? Photoshop has algorithms to detect if its editing a vector image of currency.
Joseph Mitchell
if a dvd player encryption can be hacked why do think a software or hardware side of a 3d printer wont be hacked
Noah Gutierrez
>At some point in the not-too-distant future people will own printing devices which will be able to fabricate a range of different objects. Including guns, gun parts, and bullets. YES. YES. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS >MFW Murica will give finally give the brits electronic freedom.
gunpowder is a mix of an oxidizer, a nitrate, and a catalyst throw out the last part and you could make ammo the same way as sugar rockets or you can realize that a certain commonly used item is made of an impure version of rifle powder, which can be extracted using a certain household chemical, and go with that route if the entire process for the pure version is not a possibility really the hardest part is making the casings but shotgun shells and straight-walled, rimmed stuff aren't too tricky as long as you have tight enough tolerances
Cameron Phillips
No. A 3D printer is usually controlled by an Arduino or some other simple microcontroller running some kind of opensource software. It executes simple instructions that tell it where to move, when to extrude or retract filament, when to heat up, cool down, etc. You can even build your own, plenty of online guides, and even if you don't build your own, buy some RepRap derivative and you will have FULL control of your printer. The slicer program is what allows you to take a 3D model and turn it into instructions to give to your printer. That's where you should stick to simple opensource software that doesn't have to connect to the internet to function. Get Slic3r, keep a backup so if they ever add some draconian pattern recognition policy you can restore to that backup ans keep your slicing computer offline, and you're golden.
Jack Russell
... just tell us? of course for educational purposes only, with the knowledge that no one will actually be breaking any laws bro.
Caleb Reyes
Here in az you are born with the right to a gun no permit needed too that
Ayden Fisher
Here in az you are born with the right to a gun no permit needed top that
Ethan Sanders
idk are you a fed?
Ian Brown
>using plastic to make a firearm Why do I never see anyone casting in a mold made over 3d printed parts? That's the biggest boon 3d printing brings to home maufacture of them. If you can build your own 3d printer, you can build your own cnc mini-mill and cut metal.
Jordan Hughes
There are a limited number of currency types to store and check against. Three dimensional objects have unlimited variation that will still produce a functional item.
Sebastian Barnes
Metal 3D printer is fucking expensive. Buy CNC mill, lathe and 3D printer.
David Hall
Bullets? How?
Christian Perez
Prob black powder with igniters made of match powder and ground strike pads. The casing can potentially be 3d printed for some rounds, and the bullets cast
Asher Long
>Do you believe this will require regulation of some sort? It'll be impossible to regulate so why bother? Let law abiding citizens print guns legally to protect themselves from the criminals who will have access to those same guns without leaving the house.
Tyler White
Also the printer itself is dumb and has no idea what it's printing. Impossible to add complex pattern recognition unless it's a proprietary novelty printer with fancy features you don't fucking need. Get a fucking RepRap derivative and it's 100% completely yours.
Brandon Howard
WOAH
DID YOU GUYS NOTICE HOW THAT GUY TOTTALY TOLD US THAT BRAWNDO HAS ERLCTETORLYTES
BUT!
HE DID IT SO THAT WE COULNT EVEN TELL THAT HE WAS SAYING IT HAS ELECTROLYITES
THIS IS SOME NEXT LEVEL SHIT!
CNA SOMEON TELL SOME MORE TO ME ABOUT HOW BRAWNDO HAS ELECTORYLITES?!
no, and sharing information isn't illegal, at least in america. can't speak for italy
Jaxon Powell
Easy, but not going to tell a commie. Your bike locks are enough for you.
David Perez
Indeed. The next bathtub gin/moonshine.
Sebastian Diaz
I don't believe that the barrel of a decent gun will be created by printing anytime soon. I do most of the rest can. Creating a barrel from some hardened steel pipe with regular means while printing the rest will be the way in which gun control laws can be circumvented in the future.
Daniel Hughes
Creating gun powder is really not that difficult. Nitrating cellulose is even on dozens of youtube videos. Making mercuryfulminate for primer is not impossible as well. To top it off: the US Army has a manual about improvised ammunition for partisan warfare.
Luke Howard
Just go to Home Depot. What the fuck are they gonna do, make you get a license to buy piping?
Leo Thomas
This already takes place in garages all across America. It is called milling and aluminum block. All you need is a block of aluminum and a drill press. Stop with the faggot 3D someday shit, man up and get it done.
I'm not ure whether or not hey can ipn intent on knowledge alone myself, but either way I think I can safely tell you this much: it's nothing a couple of quick searches on your preferred web engine won't tell you, mr. concerned citizen man, I really hope you don't glow in the dark
Jayden Jackson
Ghost guns been around for years. Can make AR clones and pistol clones in your garage. The future is now faggot.
Connor Bennett
>At some point in the not-too-distant future people will own printing devices which will be able to fabricate a range of different objects. Including guns, gun parts, and bullets. This will never happen. The next generation of 3D printers already have a system like Eurion to detect receivers and common mechanisms. The generation after that will have DRM and a feature that validates and reports your using the cloud. You faggots are just scared gun people. Consider the following: >you are claiming that you will resort to 3D printing guns if they start a gungrab >in that statement you are implying that you will need new guns, because you will turn them in int the gungrab; meaning that you already subconsciously chose to not break the law >and now you're saying that you will definitely try to break the law by hacking the 3D printers in order to enable a locked capability But if you're willing to break the law why didn't you just keep your guns in the first place? This whole argument is a charade to protect your pathetic egos. All the time you have been saying that you will rise in arms, but now it suddenly became >hehe I will turn in my guns and print more guns later a pathetic attempt at deluding yourself. Your cognitive dissonance levels are as high as a SJWs.
Connor Allen
>per provisions of the Gun Control Act (GCA) of 1968, 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44, an unlicensed individual may make a firearm as defined in the GCA for his own personal use, but not for sale or distribution. OP is a soyboy numale brainlet. People have been making their own firearms with way easier methods than 3d printing since the beginning of the modern era. You have to be mechanically illiterate to believe the operations of a firearm is space magic voodoo only big name manufacturers can create. Hell, these days it's even easier thanks to 80% kits and it's perfectly legal as long as you don't intend to distribute or sell the piece. A drill, file, and a hacksaw is all you need to turn a few pieces of steel into a crude firearm.
Holy fuck why would you buy an overcomplicated steaming hot pile of garbage that has no advantage over current solutions? I guess it comes with a rotating head that you can stick a dildo on and pleasure yourself with. Or maybe a camera so mommy can watch you and make sure you're not spending too much time on the computer.
The 3D printing market has been struggling because what we have now will get the job done forever, and if it doesn't, we can make it ourselves. There's a massive community that will take you by your little baby hands and teach you how to do things yourself.
Caleb Thompson
Right, good to know that the current hardware will last forever. Good to have machines that will last us for the next 100, 500, 1000, no, 10,000 years. Technology has truly peaked.
Brody Lewis
That only applies to handguns user. It doesn't apply to rifles and shotguns (not on MD's stupid assault weapons list)