NIHILISM BTFO

Broadly speaking nihilism is the rejection of moral/religious principles and the idea that life is meaningless.

If you are on the right of politics, as any men with sense are, you cannot be a nihilist.

Nihilism has paved the way for post-modernism and the moral degeneracy with see throughout the world today, but particularly in the West - Nietzsche was the product of a godless society.

If you are of the right, you ought to stand for tradition - without which we are nothing and if you believe in nothingness wtf is the point.

Tradition is who we are, it stretches back to how we got to this point of enlightenment - rather than discard it, as lefties want to do, we must hold tighter to it.

There will be no more progress unless we do.

Nihilism stands in direct opposition - not to everything - as some may wish to think, but to the right and to tradition.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend is the maxim - and nihilism is without doubt a friend of the left.

It is base and foul.

IT IS COWARDICE

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what about a belief system that is based on making brain damaged cannibals out of its followers?

I've yet to encounter a cannibal.
Elaborate pleb.

>Nietzsche was a nihilist

Why don't you actually read philosophy instead of just going off of hearsay and being a retard?

i actually thought nietzche made parody on nihilism and was against it,its just that it was very subtle

That you professor peterson?

He was he thought it was stupid beyond being a tool to see what you'd still care about if you had no faith or cultural emotions attached.

>Nietzsche
>Nihilist
What a fucking brainlet.

This.

In what way is it hearsay - what meaning can his theories contribute to my life?
Apart from a 'will to nothingness' he goes on about... I'm guessing you're quite taken with this idea of the 'ubermensch', the man who sets out his own stall.
Well guess what you simple yank bastards, society that organises itself based on that sort of total freedom of spirit doesn't do very well.
Look at our current situation.

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>Nietzsche
>a nihilist

Kys you stupid Brit.

Nietzsche was one of the founders of Existentialism, which stands in direct opposition to Nihilism you fucking paki.

All you cunts telling me what he's not rather than what he is.... typical Friedrich-hard pussies

what intelligent people read

>God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it

what retards read

>God is dead.

Because in his analysis of nihilism no one can be a nihilist. Nihilism isn't a philosophical position, but the decisive event of modernity. It's part of this historical moment and what one chooses to believe makes no difference.

Not an argument. The fact that we've lost a war (that we almost won alone with 17-19 year old kids against UK+France+NATO+USA+Chile while our country was in a civil war) doesn't change the fact that you are such a brainlet that you link one of the most pro-life philosophers of recent times to one of the most the anti-life ideologies.

I did tell you what he is, but you seem to be unable to read. Not surprising to be sure.

>nietzsche isn't a nihilist

Love how we have gone from retards parroting one thing to another one.

but life is meaningless?

we can make up meanings like "to live a good life" or "to matter" or "to have kids"

stop making life a metaphor, like "life is a beautiful woman". no its just existing for as long as you can and maybe youll be successful at what your dick is telling you to do through chemical impulses

live a good life by all means but dont tell me i failed in life if i dont have 2 children and a good wage

people put too much value on life and humanity

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Those who have abandon the God, cling much more firmly to the faith in morality. One still hopes to get along with moralism without religious background, but that necessarily leads to nihilism.

The nihilistic question "for what ?" (ask about purposes) is rooted in the old habit of supposing that the goal, must be put up, given, or demanded from "outside" -by some superhuman authority.

Having unlearn faith in that, one still followed the old habit and seek another authority that can speak unconditionally and command goals and tasks.

Now, other authorities step up to fill that place, whether authority of conscience, or the authority of reason, or the social instincts, or history and self-experience with an immanent spirit and a goal within, so one can entrust oneself to it.

Wrong. Life has no intrinsic meaning, but you can still give it one by expressing yourself and finding your own purpose in life. If you cannot live without a moral authority (which isn't yourself) you are a slave.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Jordan Peterson. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical psychology most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer’s head. There’s also Peter’s outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from biblical literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Jordan Peterson truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Pryer's existential catchphrase “Clean your room, bucko”, which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Jordan Peterson’s genius wit unfolds itself on their screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Jordan Peterson tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid

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One still hopes to get along with moralism without religious background, but that necessarily leads to nihilism.

jesus christ, you're a pathetic sandnigger if you need someone else to tell you why you should live. you are a slave race.

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pol brainlets think secularism, human rights, atheism, specific art movements... are nihilism.
what to do with this kind of people?

You obviously haven't read Nietzsche. He didn't say nihilism was a good thing or we should do it, he merely pointed out that nihiliism came about with the allegorical death of God and proposed ways to overcome it. Don't talk about a given topic unless you actually know about it. This site is one thing, but if you say that at a party around somebody who actually has read you will look like a total mong

> Joachim claims something so it is true
Sure thing, Choam

That's a dirext qoute from Nietzche's book "The Will To Power", my brother.

Not my word. It was translated.

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trotting out the same old rubbish. i have read it yank, i have indeed.

If you've read 'it' (the poster you reliped to didn't mention a particular work, you've read everything he's written?), why does your original post use an image of Nietzsche and imply that he was advocating a nihilistic mentality? Nietzsche's work was, for the most part, about overcoming nihilism.

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t. never read a philosophy book in their life

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It deeply disturbs me that people like you can proclaim such subjective things as truth without even offering a reason why. You're not even making an argument here, you're just proclaiming something as truth with zero support or reasoning.

Nietzsche isn't a nihilist, he is zen as fuck

Haven't any of you faggot actually read him?

The time for tradition is over. We are entering into a new stage of history, and only new ideas and worldviews will lead us to the future. I don't deny the importance that our traditions have played in leading us to where we are now, but nothing lasts forever. How can you expect people to continue worshipping a book that was written thousands of years ago? It does contain many important truths, but the fact of the matter is that it is not written in a way that most people can understand nowadays. We need a new religion that the people of today can get behind. The old world is dead or dying, and we only habe the future ahead of us. Don't be one of the who is left behind because he cannot accept the changes that God wills upon us. Everything is God's will, even the things that appear bad to us now. Just go with the flow, my friends, and we will see where the tides take us.

>nihilism is the rejection of moral/religious principles
More specifically, it's the emptying of one or more meaningful categories of life, which morality and religion always do in some way, since they are designed for mass appeal, and the masses are weak (therefore what is appealing to them is a code of conduct which denies certain hardships in life and therefore enables / comforts them in their weakness).

>If you are on the right of politics, as any men with sense are, you cannot be a nihilist.
Not necessarily. There's plenty of right-wing Christians in America, for example. Also, the general socialist view that all degeneracy must be eradicated is in a sense nihilistic, and Nietzsche also pointed out how such a desire is rather foolish (not due to its nihilistic aspect, but because it is an utterly futile gesture; degeneracy cannot be eliminated, it simply takes a new form, and is merely the outer expression of a society's growth).

This.

When someone says Nietzsche was a nihilist, I already know he hasn't read jackshit.

Protip: will to power

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Why are you so mad about nihilism, bongoloid? Your country has already embraced Islam and Sharia law.

>Nietzsche
>nihilist

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I don't think people understand Nietzsche. His commentary is oddly against modernism. He loathes modern virtue: egalitarianism, equality, etc. and he praises old virtue (human excellence).

With that said, OP is wrong. Nietzsche is quintessential for any man on the modern right, because (like Nietzsche) we wish to do away with the present values of our time and restore some semblance of order to the world. We want to rise above the calamity and make ourselves something great. This is the opposite of post-modernism. This is nihilism -- which is a means to the ends of excellence.

"You must be ready to burn yourself in your own flame; how could you rise anew if you have not been burnt to ashes?"
---- Nietdog

>Nihilism is

The nihilism that IS isn't the same as the nihilism that WAS. Don't muddle Nietzsche's message with your own false beliefs without even stopping to consider the German's "zeitgeist".

Nietzsche begins his philosophy with existential nihilism, and then he argues for a "transvaluation of values" in order to overcome it. Nietzsche's philosophy is about overcoming nihilism by creating your own individualist values, but the thing is, he never denied the validity of nihilism apart from the constructs of one's own mind. You tell him to "read philosophy", but I say you should stop being a fucking idiot and learn some basic comprehension skills.

Nietzsche was a nihilist because he did not believe in objective moral properties in this universe, but he still wanted to overcome nihilism via transvaluation of values, affirmation, and amor fati. He did not believe any normative or meta-ethics to have validity beyond the expression of individual's Will to Power.

Why are you people so retarded? I wish they would bring back beatings in school because goddamn you people lack literary comprehension. This is like shit you can learn easily from an encyclopedia, you goddamn faggots.

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>life is meaningless.
No, that is not the definition of existential nihilism.

This thread is only for ignorant 'tards to lie to each other.

The definition of existential nihilism is that there is NO intrinsic meaning to life and all values are baseless.

Why do you people always feel stubborn and motivated to comment on shit you have not even studied a little bit?

Just because everything is meaningless doesn't mean I want to live in a shithole user or can't decide what would be a nicer place to live.